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Traditional Catholic Faith => Computers, Technology, Websites => Topic started by: Mark 79 on November 10, 2024, 02:23:15 PM
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Something sinister is afoot on CathInfo with three rather new accounts in particular:
MarkM (registered October 16, 2024, 09:47:56 PM),
josh987654321 (registered August 14, 2024, 09:53:39 AM), and
Striving4Holiness (registered November 01, 2024, 03:06:07 PM).
All three employ the diabolical trick of admixing poison with Truth.
They all sweeten the poison with sanctimonious exhortations to "pray" while policing of the "tone" of objective rebuttals. They use quotes from condemned devotions and quotes falsified by omission.
Those three accounts also offer an odd admixture of posts with vague generalizations without evidence, the kind of posts pathognomonic of Artificial Stupidity bots… and yet the accounts will occasionally post personalized name-calling and accusations not so typical of Artificial Stupidity.
When the threads they initiate bait discord and are quickly discredited by verifiable evidence against them, their response is not the typical and expected Catholic response, "Oh, I made a mistake. Sorry." Instead they simply start new threads repeating their errors. Clearly they hope to bury the evidence against them by burying the counter-evidence in a multiplicity of new threads.
The pattern suggests the old agitprop trick: "throw lots of shit on the wall hoping that some will stick."
Worse still, the poll on Trumptards suggested that indeed some innocent readers have been suckered into rejecting objective Catholic dogma and morality, instead buying into the typically Jєωιѕн subjective relativism and "lesser evil."
I wonder if these three accounts registered from the same domain, for example, from a .top domain registered in Nanking, China???
All three accounts attack Catholic Truth and insidiously flame to encourage discord. In my time on CathInfo I have seen an occasional interloper, but until recently nothing as coordinated as we now see. I suspect that these three accounts (and perhaps other acocunts) are part of a coordinated attack on CathInfo.
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Bump.
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Worse still, the poll on Trumptards suggested that indeed some innocent readers have been suckered into rejecting objective Catholic dogma and morality, instead buying into the typically Jєωιѕн subjective relativism and "lesser evil."
The poll showed that the majority of Cathinfo members who participated in it intended to vote for Trump. This is also the position of the forum owner. This is neither sinister nor surprising. Traditional Catholic moral theology teaches that there are conditions under which Catholics may (but are not obliged) to vote for unworthy candidates. This teaching is not a rejection of objective Catholic morality, but an application of the centuries old principle of double effect. Of course, many traditional Catholics would make this choice. It is unfortunate that some people tried to articulate this teaching with the expression "choosing the lesser evil" which, in itself, is imprecise and over-simplified. However the fact that some people do not know precise terms for complex concepts of moral theology does not mean they have committed a sin or been deceived by a plot.
I agree that there is something "off" with the 3 posters you have identified as problematic and it very well may be modernism. Given how pervasive that heresy is, there is nothing strange about encountering people who have been influenced by it, even more than one at a time. There is, however, no reason to assume some sort of coordinated attack or that they are forming forum opinion. One of the posters is almost certainly Xavier Nishant. He has posted here for years under various names with no sign of him "suckering innocent readers" into accepting errors.
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I agree that there is something "off" with the 3 posters you have identified as problematic and it very well may be modernism. Given how pervasive that heresy is, there is nothing strange about encountering people who have been influenced by it, even more than one at a time. There is, however, no reason to assume some sort of coordinated attack or that they are forming forum opinion. One of the posters is almost certainly Xavier Nishant. He has posted here for years under various names with no sign of him "suckering innocent readers" into accepting errors.
^^^^ THIS cluster of three and whether they all registered from the same domain is my main concern. I suspect that the three are a coordinated attack. I think it is a "cohencidence," not a coincidence. :cowboy: Let's ask the owner of CathInfo.
Did MarkM, josh987654321, and Striving4Holiness all register from the same .top domain in Nanking, China?
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^^^^ THIS cluster of three and whether they all registered from the same domain is my main concern. I suspect that the three are a coordinated attack. I think it is a "cohencidence," not a coincidence. :cowboy: Let's ask the owner of CathInfo.
Did MarkM, josh987654321, and Striving4Holiness all register from the same .top domain in Nanking, China?
I am interested to hear the answer. Is that something Matthew can actually find out? And if the answer is no, then what?
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^^^^ THIS cluster of three and whether they all registered from the same domain is my main concern. I suspect that the three are a coordinated attack. I think it is a "cohencidence," not a coincidence. :cowboy: Let's ask the owner of CathInfo.
Did MarkM, josh987654321, and Striving4Holiness all register from the same .top domain in Nanking, China?
MarkM posts very much like XavierNishant (under various names) has always posted in recent years.
Josh has a two year posting history at suscipe domine that is completely consistent with what we see here. His story of coming here after being banned there is demonstrably true. And he has written a lot about being Australian. He has kept the same username for years over several different forums. He is not trying to disguise his identity.
S4H just recently turned up with no history or introduction and has not yet posted enough to draw many conclusions.
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Only Matthew can answer the question on the floor.
Of course, an obvious parallel issue is, (since you are not the only one to implicate this XavierNishant fellow) why is his latest alter-ego still here?
And if what you say about josh987654321 is true, "consistent for years," why has he not been placed on lithium?
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I am certain that MarkM is Xavier. Not only the same rubbish but the same formatting style.
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I am certain that MarkM is Xavier. Not only the same rubbish but the same formatting style.
Well… that begs the question: Why is he still here?
Can someone knowledgeable provide a précis of XavierNishant's agenda?
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And if what you say about josh987654321 is true, "consistent for years," why has he not been placed on lithium?
Read his intro post:
https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/introduce-yourself!/msg948550/#msg948550
(https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/introduce-yourself!/msg948550/#msg948550)Whatever is wrong with him, it is not dishonesty. He openly states that he has already been banned from four other forums. I don't think he gets along with people well enough to be part of a conspiracy.
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Well… that begs the question: Why is he still here?
Matthew said something about waiting until after the election to make decisions on some pro-Trump posters because there some very strongly anti-Trump posters and he was trying to keep a balance.
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Have you PMed Matthew? That might work better.
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Of course, an obvious parallel issue is, (since you are not the only one to implicate this XavierNishant fellow) why is his latest alter-ego still here?
Probably for the same reason Hewkonian's latest alter-ego is still here: PapalTiara.
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Probably for the same reason Hewkonian's latest alter-ego is still here: PapalTiara.
And what reason is that, O Wise One?
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And what reason is that, O Wise One?
I dont know but it's probably the same reason.
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I dont know but it's probably the same reason.
PURE GENIUS! :jester: PURE MATH! Probability based on… nothing.
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PURE GENIUS! :jester: PURE MATH! Probability based on… nothing.
You're just a jerk these days. Sad.
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You stated a probability based on nothing you could articulate, but that makes me a jerk for noticing.
Go figure.
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I've dealt with people like Mark 79 before... If they lose an argument they will resort to backhanded tactics to slander and get myself banned. I've been banned before and forums like this are very time consuming, so I'll probably be calling it a day soon enough anyway.
In real life it works the same way, such as the pressure applied against Trump supporters in 2016 with all the peer pressure and ridicule, also sending in their own people to start fights and then accuse Trump of inciting violence (they even tried to αssαssιnαtҽ Trump, so much for the battle of ideas and free speech) or against those who doubted the jabs in 2020 (misinformation and disinformation, pandemic of the unjabbed... they spent the whole time demonizing the unjabbed and inciting violence against us because they could never win in a fair debate), same thing with the whole gαy marriage thing, could never win a fair debate so it was full of slander, loaded questions and name calling.
The message is clear, you can have free speech whilst I am winning, but if you ever get the upper hand playing by the same rules, there are numerous ways we can punish you and take you down behind the scenes, underhandedly and stealthily.
Mark 79 is proving himself to be just as dishonest with those repulsive images he created in another thread trying to slander me with, which I don't really care because first of all it looks like a child created them in paint and secondly it proves he has lost the argument, but the thing I take objection to is some of the repulsive items in there which should not be posted on a Catholic forum and shows his gutter mind.
This is also why there has been a big push to censor social media, especially anonymous social media... because that is a great threat to those who have achieved theirpositions or status not through merit but through force, corruption and intimidation.
Thank you JayneK for being honest. There are lots of things people will naturally disagree on, but I can respect those who are honest and try to be fair about it.
God Bless
The false piety here is disgusting, I do pray for your conversion.
This post is no different than those in control who get caught and start blabbing about how 6 million died in the h0Ɩ0h0αx. (More like 150k during WW2)
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MarkM posts very much like XavierNishant (under various names) has always posted in recent years.
Josh has a two year posting history at suscipe domine that is completely consistent with what we see here. His story of coming here after being banned there is demonstrably true. And he has written a lot about being Australian. He has kept the same username for years over several different forums. He is not trying to disguise his identity.
S4H just recently turned up with no history or introduction and has not yet posted enough to draw many conclusions.
I don't have a problem with any of these 3 people. This site has tolerated a lot worse, for a lot longer.
MarkM is definitely XavierSem and I wish he would grow up because he's constantly starting fights and posting hopeium propaganda.
S4H pushes the indult nonesense and he, like MarkM, isn't Traditional. But this site tolerates indulters as long as they stay in their lane.
I like Josh's posts for the most part. At least he puts out his own opinions and makes rational arguments.
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I don't have a problem with any of these 3 people. This site has tolerated a lot worse, for a lot longer.
Like Poche
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Like Poche
Poche used to post a recipe per week. MarkM posts with such frequency and with so much material, that needs to be refuted, that he is exhausting this forum.
Had I just joined because I had read at the bottom of the page the text
"CathInfo is the de-facto discussion headquarters for the SSPX Resistance, which it officially supports.
Traditional Catholics worldwide have made us the #1 forum for SSPX Resistance news and discussion in the English-speaking world.
Please pray for Bishop Richard Williamson, the hand-picked successor of Archbishop Lefebvre whose Catholic wisdom and zeal for the truth have inspired many Traditional Catholics.
He continues to defend Catholic Tradition in the SSPX Resistance, as the true successor of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, continuing the fιght the SSPX once fσught."
I would consider that I had stumbled into the wrong place.
Discussing whether or not Mgr Lefevbre would have been an indulter or not was already resolved 10 years ago. Sean has a post listing 100 reasons why the SSPX has strayed from the path laid by Mgr Lefevbre. I suggest that every post started by MarkM be replied with automatic response with Sean's list and then the thread be frozen
I really don't understand why he is here.
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That is something I also experienced from posters such as Mark 79 leading up the the election... I think it could be a good idea to put a limit on how many new threads each poster can create in a day so that it doesn't get overwhelming with only one point of view IMO.
God Bless
^^^^^Cause… and effect … https://archive.is/judaism.is
Poor baby! When Judaizers, bona fide members of the Novus Ordo branch of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, and heretics post multiple errors you can certainly expect to be soundly rebutted.
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I've dealt with people like Mark 79 before... If they lose an argument they will resort to backhanded tactics to slander and get myself banned. I've been banned before and forums like this are very time consuming, so I'll probably be calling it a day soon enough anyway.“
When you post rebuttable material, I rebut you… soundly.
When, as you commonly do, you resort to non-responsive word salad, non-sequiturs, vague generalizations, new threads repeating your errors, hypocritical sanctimonious exhortations, and judgments on our interior forums, you get insulted. Poor baby.
Stick with explicit verifiable facts and I do the same. Play your deceitful games, expect your tactics to be exposed.… and even an occasional mocking meme.
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One of those AT LEAST is a plant monitoring.. I can bet you my bottom dollar on that. They get in forums like these ALL THE TIME. Notice the patterns of how they post...
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Thus the Jєωs are not to be envied nor whatever your unhealthy obsession is all about, they are to be prayed for and pitied for their inability to recognise their Messiah and ours in Jesus Christ.
I can understand having a gut reaction against the harsh tone of Mark79's posting, but the matter is not as simple as that. Consider the historical context. This statement was recently released in Canada and signed by men who are supposed to be Catholic bishops: https://www.christiandeclaration.ca/ (https://www.christiandeclaration.ca/)
This paragraph in particular is deeply disturbing:
We are compelled to act through our faith in Jesus Christ. We confess Jesus Christ to be the Messiah, the Son of God who was born of the Virgin Mary. He is a Jєω and it is through His coming into the world and dying and rising from the dead for our salvation that we are bound to the Jєωιѕн people as the church of the Gentiles and so grafted on to the Tree of Israel forever. As Christians, we must still repent for past expressions of antisemitism in our churches. In that light and in support of this declaration, we affirm that the Jєωιѕн people remain God’s chosen people. The law and the covenants that God gave to the Jєωιѕн people, which we see as fulfilled in Christ, remain intact.
I find it highly unlikely that teaching like this will lead to people working and praying for the conversion of Jєωs. It strongly implies that they are already saved. And unfortunately, it is not only Canada. This sort of novel theology has thrived in the Western world and post-conciliar Church. It has little, if any, continuity with traditional Catholic thought, which is now portrayed as something to be repented of. There is a real and serious problem here and you are not going to be able to understand it if you are too quick to label things as anti-semitic.
You do seem to understand that we ought to pray for the conversion of Jєωs. Please continue to do so. Far too few people these days realize that we ought to do this.
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No you don't. Even more threads now, you are obsessed with the Jєωs, is there anything you don't blame on the Jєωs?
You have an unhealthy obsession here and one that is wrong, as I exposed you before, you twisted and omitted scripture to suit your own perverted ends, half truths and omissions to suit some personal vendetta.
Anyway, I don't have time for you anymore.
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It is a call to conversion, if only they would see their Messiah and ours in Jesus. St Peter spoke directly to the Jєωs in Acts and he did not preach as you do. Furthermore, many Jєωs will be converted IMO when the fullness of typology is unlocked and then there will be no denying Jesus Christ as the Messiah.
They'd also see that the Messiah actually did throw off the Roman Yoke for the spiritual children of Abraham (Galatians 3:7), delivering them from the Diocletian Persecutions and converting the entire Roman Empire into the Holy Roman Empire through Constantine the Great.
Thus the Jєωs are not to be envied nor whatever your unhealthy obsession is all about, they are to be prayed for and pitied for their inability to recognise their Messiah and ours in Jesus Christ.
You post error; we post the corrections. "Cause" and "effect." That is how is works and it seems to annoy you, so you whine incessantly.
When a Judaizer posts "Muslims are worse than Jєωs," expect the objective and verifiable evidence that Jєωs are far worse on every count.
When a Judaizer claims that "St Peter… did not preach as you do," I cite 2,000 years of infallible, unchangeable, and forthright preaching against the Jєωs.
The "wrong" here is your (plural) efforts to exculpate and abet the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan and your efforts to continue the smarmy "swap spit" and "take it up the rear" submission to the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan that has caused the ascendency of the Synaogue of Satan and the descendency of The Church. You are an accomplice to the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan.
The "unhealthy obsession" here is your obsession with promoting Trump as though he is our earthly savior. He isn't… and when you (plural) glorify him, expect the objective and verifiable evidence that Trump serves himself and the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. His past behavior predicts his future behavior.… a lot of blowhard hot air and very little in the way of substantive results.
Another unhealthy obsession here is your devotion to multiple bowdlerized versions of Faustina "diaries" that were condemned by Pope Pius XII and others, only to be rescued by the post-V2 anti-Pope Wojtyla the Worst, himself a neo-Judaizer and crypto-Jєω.
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You post error; we post the corrections. That is how is works and it seems to annoy you, so you whine incessantly.
When a Judaizer posts "Muslims are worse than Jєωs," expect the objective and verifiable evidence that Jєωs are far worse on every count.
When a Judaizer claims that "St Peter… did not preach as you do," I cite 2,000 years of infallible, unchangeable, and forthright preaching against the Jєωs.
The "wrong" here is your (plural) efforts to exculpate and abet the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan and your efforts to continue the smarmy "swap spit" and "take it up the rear" submission to the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan that has caused the ascendency of the Synaogue of Satan and the descendency of The Church. You are an accomplice to the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan.
The "unhealthy obsession" here is your obsession with promoting Trump as though he is our earthly savior. He isn't… and when you (plural) glorify him, expect the objective and verifiable evidence that Trump serves himself and the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. His past behavior predicts his future behavior.… a lot of blowhard hot air and very little in the way of substantive results.
Another unhealthy obsession here is your devotion to multiple bowdlerized versions of Faustina "diaries" that were condemned by Pope Pius XII and others, only to be rescued by the post-V2 anti-Pope Wojtyla the Worst, himself a neo-Judaizer and crypto-Jєω.
Muslims are not ideal at all obviously, however Jews are 1000x worse than Muslims.. (as a collective). The media has so brainwashed everyone, they cant get this Jew media poison out of their head. Saddam for example was demonized. He even had Catholic bodyguards. We gotta get the truth out
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I can understand having a gut reaction against the harsh tone of Mark79's posting, but the matter is not as simple as that. Consider the historical context. This statement was recently released in Canada and signed by men who are supposed to be Catholic bishops: https://www.christiandeclaration.ca/ (https://www.christiandeclaration.ca/)
This paragraph in particular is deeply disturbing:
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We are compelled to act through our faith in Jesus Christ. We confess Jesus Christ to be the Messiah, the Son of God who was born of the Virgin Mary. He is a Jєω and it is through His coming into the world and dying and rising from the dead for our salvation that we are bound to the Jєωιѕн people as the church of the Gentiles and so grafted on to the Tree of Israel forever. As Christians, we must still repent for past expressions of antisemitism in our churches. In that light and in support of this declaration, we affirm that the Jєωιѕн people remain God’s chosen people. The law and the covenants that God gave to the Jєωιѕн people, which we see as fulfilled in Christ, remain intact.
I find it highly unlikely that teaching like this will lead to people working and praying for the conversion of Jєωs. It strongly implies that they are already saved. And unfortunately, it is not only Canada. This sort of novel theology has thrived in the Western world and post-conciliar Church. It has little, if any, continuity with traditional Catholic thought, which is now portrayed as something to be repented of. There is a real and serious problem here and you are not going to be able to understand it if you are too quick to label things as anti-semitic.
You do seem to understand that we ought to pray for the conversion of Jєωs. Please continue to do so. Far too few people these days realize that we ought to do this.
If I remember correctly, JayneK, you are a convert from Judaism. Your sincere conversion and testimony are thus made all the more powerful.
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The false piety here is disgusting, I do pray for your conversion.
This post is no different than those in control who get caught and start blabbing about how 6 million died in the h0Ɩ0h0αx. (More like 150k during WW2)
Nailed it on your every point!
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The greater travesty is hardly any one wants to commemorate the 60 million Russian and Orthodox Christians that Russian Orthodox Christian historian, a Nobel laureate, Solzhenitsyn says were killed by Atheist Bolshevik Communist, including many Jews, in Russia and Ukraine. Where are the h0Ɩ0cαųst memorials to them? Likewise, the 360 million Christians suffering around the globe even TODAY are likewise ignored in the Zionist press. All Catholics can do is work through other sources, like X and social media now for e.g., and this forum too, and hope to get the word out to sufficient millions as to make a long term difference. The Truth must be told, and the Truth sets us free. But it must always be Truth spoken in Love, otherwise it is like faith without works, which St. James the Just rightly tells us is dead, and thus will not have the inner graces necessary and efficacious for the conversion of souls. Let us pray for the Jews, as we do in our Good Friday prayers for them in the TLM, that the veil of blindness may be removed from their hearts, and they may finally come accept Baptism, Christ as Savior, become Catholic, enter the Church and be saved.
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Speaking of the Good Friday prayer, here are some prophetic warnings about what would happen post Vatican II from the Roman curia: "The Roman Curia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Curia), however, reacted very negatively to the proposal warning that any change to the liturgy would invite other such proposals. Cardinal Rafael Merry del Val (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Merry_del_Val), head of the Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregation_for_the_Doctrine_of_the_Faith), wrote:[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Friday_prayer_for_the_Jєωs#cite_note-fattorini-6)
Quote I would hope that these [Friends of Israel] would not fall into a trap laid by the Jєωs themselves, who insinuate themselves throughout modern society and seek with whatever means to minimize the memory of their history and take advantage of the good will of Christians."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Friday_prayer_for_the_Jєωs
"Let us pray also for the Jєωs: that almighty God may remove the veil from their hearts; so that they too may acknowledge Jesus Christ our Lord. Let us pray. Let us kneel. Arise. Almighty and eternal God, who dost also not exclude from thy mercy the Jєωs: hear our prayers, which we offer for the blindness of that people; that acknowledging the light of thy Truth, which is Christ, they may be delivered from their darkness. Through the same our Lord Jesus Christ, who liveth and reigneth with thee in the unity of the Holy Spirit, God, for ever and ever. Amen."
Catholics should not fall into the Trojan Horse trap laid by the Jєωs but pray the prayer as we have it in our 1962 Missal for the conversion of the Jєωs and as above. And not only on Good Friday, but every day we can pray it. May Almighty God hear our prayers for the blindness of that people and deliver them from darkness. In Jesus' Name. Amen.
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The greater travesty is hardly any one wants to commemorate the 60 million Russian and Orthodox Christians that Russian Orthodox Christian historian, a Nobel laureate, Solzhenitsyn says were killed by Atheist Bolshevik Communist, including many Jєωs, in Russia and Ukraine. Where are the h0Ɩ0cαųst memorials to them? Likewise, the 360 million Christians suffering around the globe even TODAY are likewise ignored in the Zionist press. All Catholics can do is work through other sources, like X and social media now for e.g., and this forum too, and hope to get the word out to sufficient millions as to make a long term difference. The Truth must be told, and the Truth sets us free. But it must always be Truth spoken in Love, otherwise it is like faith without works, which St. James the Just rightly tells us is dead, and thus will not have the inner graces necessary and efficacious for the conversion of souls. Let us pray for the Jєωs, as we do in our Good Friday prayers for them in the TLM, that the veil of blindness may be removed from their hearts, and they may finally come accept Baptism, Christ as Savior, become Catholic, enter the Church and be saved.
And suddenly the troll who insisted "Muslims are worse" has discovered Jєωιѕн-perpetrated by Jews.
You and your other trolls are welcome to pose with your false piety, but know that it carries no credibility.
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I said Islamists are worse in current persecution, idiot, and that's an empirical fact, because no percentage share can be greater than 80%. Since people like you are wilfully ignorant that Islamists are the arm the ѕуηαgσgυє uses against Christendom the most in our times, you ignore the well docuмented fact that about 80% of all persecution of Christians TODAY comes from Islamists. You don't want to accept this Truth, but it is nonetheless true. I will preach the Truth in season and out of season, and if I am banned for it, so be it. The Truth will set you free if you accept it.
"The Never Ending ‘Pandemic’: 360 Million Christians Persecuted Worldwide ...
Most of the “extreme persecution” meted out to Christians in nine of the top 11 worst nations continues, however, to come either from Islamic oppression, or takes place in Muslim-majority nations. This means that approximately 80% of the absolute worst persecution around the globe takes place in the name of Islam.
https://www.raymondibrahim.com/2023/02/08/the-never-ending-pandemic-360-million-christians-persecuted-worldwide/ Keep idiotically thinking something can be greater than 80% if you wish or keep denying. I don't care. The Truth is the Truth and those who ears to hear will hear. You have no ears to hear and don't want to stop it.
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The greater travesty is hardly any one wants to commemorate the 60 million Russian and Orthodox Christians that Russian Orthodox Christian historian, a Nobel laureate, Solzhenitsyn says were killed by Atheist Bolshevik Communist, including many Jєωs, in Russia and Ukraine. Where are the h0Ɩ0cαųst memorials to them? Likewise, the 360 million Christians suffering around the globe even TODAY are likewise ignored in the Zionist press. All Catholics can do is work through other sources, like X and social media now for e.g., and this forum too, and hope to get the word out to sufficient millions as to make a long term difference. The Truth must be told, and the Truth sets us free. But it must always be Truth spoken in Love, otherwise it is like faith without works, which St. James the Just rightly tells us is dead, and thus will not have the inner graces necessary and efficacious for the conversion of souls. Let us pray for the Jєωs, as we do in our Good Friday prayers for them in the TLM, that the veil of blindness may be removed from their hearts, and they may finally come accept Baptism, Christ as Savior, become Catholic, enter the Church and be saved.
Truth cannot mean much to you, since you deceive the forum by showing up as someone other than Xavier Sem. Can truth really be imparted by using deceptive tactics? With such a lack of integrity, your words do not mean much.
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I said Islamists are worse in current persecution, idiot, and that's an empirical fact, …
Preach that bullshit to the dead in the Ukraine and Palestine and to the aborted babies.
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Ukraine was a Deep State trap for Biden. Biden's cowardly weakness led to that, one of the many reasons I support Trump. Putin was responsible for the bƖσσdshɛd too, but now is open to peace. Hopefully, he and Trump sit down and work something out, and the bƖσσdshɛd and suffering ends. Abortion etc I firmly oppose and always will. You don't want to recognize the reality of Islamist terrorism from Nigeria to Afghanistan to Pakistan to Iran to so many other places. The list of the top 10 and top 50 countries for Christians to live makes very clear that most are Islamist ones.
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Ukraine was a Deep State trap for Biden. Biden's cowardly weakness led to that, one of the many reasons I support Trump. Putin was responsible for the bƖσσdshɛd too, but now is open to peace. Hopefully, he and Trump sit down and work something out, and the bƖσσdshɛd and suffering ends. Abortion etc I firmly oppose and always will. You don't want to recognize the reality of Islamist terrorism from Nigeria to Afghanistan to Pakistan to Iran to so many other places. The list of the top 10 and top 50 countries for Christians to live makes very clear that most are Islamist ones.
Those cells are funded by who? I know who.
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Quote Preach that [expletive deleted] ...
And cussing is a sin, as St. Alphonsus and St. Paul teach:
”But, ” says St. Paul, “fornication and all uncleanness, let it not so much as be named among you, as becometh saints.” (Ephes. v. 3.) Mark the words”all uncleanness. ” We must not only abstain from obscene language and from every word of double meaning spoken in jest, but also from every improper word unbecoming a saint that is, a Christian ... Reflect, says St. Augustine that your mouths are the mouths of Christians, which Jesus Christ has so often entered in the Holy Communion. Hence, you ought to have a horror of uttering all unchaste words, which are a diabolical poison. ”See, brethren, if it be just that, from the mouths of Christians, which the body of Christ enters, an immodest song, like diabolical poison, should proceed.” (Serm. xv. de Temp.) St. Paul says, that the language of a Christian should be always seasoned with salt. ”Let your speech be always in grace, seasoned with salt.”(Col. IV. 6.) Our conversation should be seasoned with words calculated to excite others not to offend, but to love God. ”Happy the tongue,” says St. Bernard,”that knows only how to speak of holy things!” Happy the tongue that knows only how to speak of God!" https://oneintheirhearts.wordpress.com/2015/08/09/the-vice-of-speaking-immodestly-st-alphonsus-liguori/
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Those cells are funded by who? I know who.
Yes, Zionists use Islamists in many cases. I've never denied that. Yet many of the Islamists themselves are sufficiently brainwashed by themselves that they believe killing Christians will give them "virgins in paradise" etc. That's a grave problem and a great threat facing Christendom today.
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And cussing is a sin, as St. Alphonsus and St. Paul teach:
”But, ” says St. Paul, “fornication and all uncleanness, let it not so much as be named among you, as becometh saints.” (Ephes. v. 3.) Mark the words”all uncleanness. ” We must not only abstain from obscene language and from every word of double meaning spoken in jest, but also from every improper word unbecoming a saint that is, a Christian ... Reflect, says St. Augustine that your mouths are the mouths of Christians, which Jesus Christ has so often entered in the Holy Communion. Hence, you ought to have a horror of uttering all unchaste words, which are a diabolical poison. ”See, brethren, if it be just that, from the mouths of Christians, which the body of Christ enters, an immodest song, like diabolical poison, should proceed.” (Serm. xv. de Temp.) St. Paul says, that the language of a Christian should be always seasoned with salt. ”Let your speech be always in grace, seasoned with salt.”(Col. IV. 6.) Our conversation should be seasoned with words calculated to excite others not to offend, but to love God. ”Happy the tongue,” says St. Bernard,”that knows only how to speak of holy things!” Happy the tongue that knows only how to speak of God!" https://oneintheirhearts.wordpress.com/2015/08/09/the-vice-of-speaking-immodestly-st-alphonsus-liguori/
"Cussing (Cursing)" is a sin. sure. But "BULLSHIT" is not a curse.
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Saint Paul says "fornication and all uncleanness". Saint Alphonsus also is quite clear.
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Saint Paul says "fornication and all uncleanness". Saint Alphonsus also is quite clear.
He sure did, Rabbi.
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And cussing is a sin, as St. Alphonsus and St. Paul teach:
Ah, I see ... you you have a greater problem with vulgarity than with abortion and genocide. Got it.
BTW, Catholic theologians do NOT hold that vulgarity (e.g. scatological terms) are inherently sinful. In fact, in being directed toward yourself and your errors, it's downright meritorious. Sometimes politeness does not suffice in the face of grave error. You'll note that there's actually a significant amount of vulgarity in Sacred Scripture when the Holy Spirit even decided it was necessary to get the point across.
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Non sequitur of the year. And are you defending vulgarity as the "lesser of two evils" now after railing against it? :laugh1: Cussing is indeed a sin and I have no idea why you'd reject Saint Paul and Saint Alphonsus and all the other Saints St. A cites. As for abortion and genocide, of course I've always opposed them and always will.
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Sometimes politeness does not suffice in the face of grave error.
Saint Pius X would definitely agree with you on that one :laugh1:
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Saint Alphonsus: "5. In a word, obscene tongues are the ruin of the world. One of them does more mischief than a hundred devils; because it is the cause of the perdition of many souls. This is not my language; it is the language of the Holy Ghost. ”A slippery mouth worketh ruin.” (Prov. xxvi. 28.) And when is it that this havoc of souls is effected, and that such grievous insults are offered to God? It is in the summer, at the time when God bestows upon you the greatest temporal blessings. It is then that he supplies you for the entire year with corn, wine, oil, and other fruits of the earth. It is then that there are as many sins committed by obscene words, as there are grains of corn or bunches of grapes. O ingratitude! How does God bear with us? And who is the cause of these sins? They who speak immodestly are the cause of them. Hence they must render an account to God, and shall be punished for all the sins committed by those who hear them. “But I will require his blood at thy hand.” (Ezec. iii. 11.) But let us pass to the second point."
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Saint Alphonsus, continued: "4. The misfortune is, that the mouths of hell that frequently utter immodest words, regard them, as trifles, and are careless about confessing them: and when rebuked for them they answer: ”I say these words in jest, and without malice.” In jest! Unhappy man, these jests make the devil laugh, and shall make you weep for eternity in hell. In the first place, it is useless to say that you utter such words without malice; for, when you use such expressions, it is very difficult for you to abstain from acts against purity. According to St. Jerome, “He that delights in words is not far from the act.” Besides, immodest words spoken before persons of a different sex, are always accompanied with sinful complacency. And is not the scandal you give to others criminal? Utter a single obscene word, and you shall bring into sin all who listen to you. Such is the doctrine of St. Bernard. ”One speaks, and he utters only one word; but he kills the souls of a multitude of hearers.” (Serm. xxiv. in Cant.) A greater sin than if, by one discharge of a blunderbuss, you murdered many persons; because you would then only kill their bodies: but, by speaking obscenely, you have killed their souls."
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Non sequitur of the year. And are you defending vulgarity
You sure he's "defending vulgarity"?? Buddy, you're in the wrong forum.
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Non sequitur of the year. And are you defending vulgarity as the "lesser of two evils" now after railing against it? :laugh1: Cussing is indeed a sin and I have no idea why you'd reject Saint Paul and Saint Alphonsus and all the other Saints St. A cites. As for abortion and genocide, of course I've always opposed them and always will.
Is deception a sin, to you? You seem to take delight in trying to fool everyone here by continually signing up with yet another personality, and then preaching to everyone here on what you want us to believe.
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You have no proof that I am who you think I am. Perhaps MarkM is a friend of the person you're thinking about. You don't know, you're just guessing. It's irrelevant anyway. Cussing is a sin, as St. Alphonsus clearly teaches us. The worldlings we live around may do it all the time, but Catholics shouldn't pick up the habit, or confess it if we did. Cussing is a sin. Our tongues that have so often received Our Blessed Lord in Holy Communion should be pure like the tongues of Angels and only speak of God and holy things. Not blaspheme, cuss, use vulgarities etc.
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You have no proof that I am who you think I am. Perhaps MarkM is a friend of the person you're thinking about. You don't know, you're just guessing. It's irrelevant anyway. Cussing is a sin, as St. Alphonsus clearly teaches us. The worldlings we live around may do it all the time, but Catholics shouldn't pick up the habit, or confess it if we did. Cussing is a sin. Our tongues that have so often received Our Blessed Lord in Holy Communion should be pure like the tongues of Angels and only speak of God and holy things. Not blaspheme, cuss, use vulgarities etc.
So....your deception is only a sin if I have proof? You are not denying that you have had multiple accounts here. Though you may indeed have friends that are doing the same deceptive thing that you are doing here. Are you being paid to troll here?
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I work for the Lord alone and am only interested in storing up treasures in Heaven as the Lord commanded in the Gospel.
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I work for the Lord alone and am only interested in storing up treasures in Heaven as the Lord commanded in the Gospel.
And the Lord is fine with you using deception as a means to store up treasures in Heaven?
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I work for the Lord alone and am only interested in storing up treasures in Heaven as the Lord commanded in the Gospel.
Question:
Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?
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Question:
Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?
Answer: no. Pope Pius XII's Holy Office answered this clearly: "Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth."
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=5142
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A great quote from St. Alphonsus:
https://www.ecatholic2000.com/liguori/school/perfect.shtml
CALUMNY AND SLANDER
To practice charity in speech you must, above all things, avoid calumny and slander. He who has contracted this deplorable habit disfigures his own soul and is hated everywhere, as the Holy Ghost says: “He shall defile his own soul and shall be hated by all.” (Ecclus. 21:31). If there are some who agree with him at times and encourage him in speaking ill of his neighbor, these very persons will later avoid him and be on their guard against his venomous tongue. They reason, and justly so, that if he speaks ill of others to them, he will speak ill of them to others. St. Jerome remarks that many who have renounced the other vices seem not to be able to keep from uncharitable talk. Even among those who have vowed to strive after perfection there are many who cannot move their tongue without wounding someone. God grant they may not end their life as did one unhappy slanderer; when on his deathbed, he bit his tongue in a fit of rage, and in this condition he died. St. Bernard speaks of another who was about to speak ill of St. Malachy when suddenly his tongue became swollen and was devoured by worms; after seven days of terrible agony he died a wretched death.
But, on the other hand, how dear to God and man is he who speaks well of everyone! “If in the course of his life, a man never spoke ill of his fellowman, I would consider him a saint,” says St. Mary Magdalen de Pazzi. Carefully guard against the habit of speaking unkindly of others, and especially of superiors. We render ourselves guilty of detraction not only when we reveal the hidden faults of our neighbor, but also when we interpret his good works amiss or assign to them an evil intention. It is a common fault with some people when speaking of their neighbor to begin with praise and end with blame. For example, “So and So is very capable; isn’t it too bad he’s so proud?” Or, “He is very generous, but he spoils it all by being revengeful.”
Dear reader, try always to say only what is good of your neighbor. Speak of others as you would wish others to speak of you. And in regard to the absent, follow the beautiful advice of St. Mary Magdalen of Pazzi: “Say nothing of an absent brother that you would not wish to say in his presence.” When you hear others speaking unkindly, be careful not to encourage them by manifesting an interest or pleasure in what they say; you might otherwise be a partner in their guilt.
“Six things there are,” says the Wise Man, “which the Lord hateth and the seventh his soul detesteth.” (Prov. 6:16). This seventh thing is the person who “soweth discord among brethren.” The talebearer goes about telling people what he has heard others say of them. He scatters the seeds of discord, enmity, quarrels and revenge. How severe the account such tongues will have to give before the judgment seat of God. If in the heat of passion one person speaks ill of another, we can have patience with him; most likely he will repent of what he has said. But how can the Lord be patient with those who deliberately sow seeds of discord and strife and destroy the peace and happiness of their fellow men? “Hast thou heard a word against thy neighbor?” says the Holy Ghost; “let it die within thee, trusting that it will not burst thee.” (Ecclus. 19:10). You must not be satisfied merely to enclose it in your heart; you must let it die there.
There are people who, on hearing a secret, seem to suffer the agonies of death until they can make it known in some way. Their secret is like a thorn that is piercing the heart and it must be torn out as soon as possible. Do not act in this way. If you know that your neighbor has committed a fault, be silent about it. Only then, when the good of others or of the guilty one demands it, may you reveal what you know.
In conversation, as far as possible avoid disputes. There are some people who have such a spirit of contradiction that they seem to take pleasure in always questioning what others say, even though it be of little or no importance. Thus little trifles sometimes give rise to a war of words; charity is wounded and the bonds of friendship are broken beyond repair. “Strive not in a matter which doth not concern thee,” says the Wise Man. (Ecclus. 11:9).
But, you will say: “I am right; I cannot bear to hear such absurd talk.” Listen to what Cardinal Bellarmine says: “An ounce of charity is better than tons of right.” To yield in a war of words is to win a victory, for you grow in virtue and preserve peace, which is better far than obstinately maintaining your right.
When you are offended or spoken to in an angry way, try to reply with meekness. If you are too agitated to do so it is better to say nothing at all, for in the heat of passion you may think what you say is right and proper, but afterwards, when the excitement has passed away, you will regret what you have said. An eye that is disturbed by anger, says St. Bernard, cannot see what is right or wrong. Passion is like a black veil that is drawn before the eyes; while it is there we cannot see things in their proper light. When he who offends you asks pardon, be generous enough to grant it in a gracious manner. If you have offended another be quick to repair the harm you have done. St. Bernard says, the best way to heal the wound you have inflicted by uncharitableness is to humble yourself. The longer you delay, the harder it becomes, and eventually you may neglect it altogether. Our Blessed Saviour once said: “If thou offer thy gift at the altar, and there thou remember that thy brother hath anything against thee; leave thy offering before the altar, and go first to be reconciled to thy brother: and then coming thou shalt offer thy gift.” (Matt. 5:23). But if it should happen that such self-humiliation would only anger the offended person the more, endeavor by some other means to quiet him.
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Poche used to post a recipe per week.
You knew Poche here?
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You knew Poche here?
Alas
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You're just a jerk these days. Sad.
Pretty sure that's not something new, but I gotta give credit to him for this thread. I do think that there is a coordinated attack on Cathinfo from the three usernames mentioned, and it is likely that they are the same person, or three persons working together. But I don't believe that he/they are any sort of traditionalist. Probably not even a Novus Ordo Catholic, as in not Catholic at all, though I could be wrong about that
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Quote from: Meg (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=75490.msg962070#msg962070)Quote from: Meg (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=75490.msg962070#msg962070) 2024-11-11, 11:09:34 AM
Pretty sure that's not something new, but I gotta give credit to him for this thread. I do think that there is a coordinated attack on Cathinfo from the three usernames mentioned, and it is likely that they are the same person, or three persons working together. But I don't believe that he/they are any sort of traditionalist. Probably not even a Novus Ordo Catholic, as in not Catholic at all, though I could be wrong about that
Intentional or not, their posts clearly reveal these objectives in action.
The items in bold have supporting evidence; the others are speculative but, in my view, likely true.
1.To flood the forum with content to “memory hole” or bury genuine discussions.
2. To sow discord and division among forum members.
3. To merge traditionalist and conciliar viewpoints subtly, diluting traditional positions.
4. To discredit traditionalist voices by provoking exaggerated or extreme responses.
5. To monitor and gather intelligence on traditionalist arguments and strategies.
6. To discourage users by creating an atmosphere of frustration and distrust.
7. To introduce gradual doctrinal errors under the guise of “reasonable” debate.
8. To shift focus away from central issues by constantly steering discussions toward trivial matters.
9. To normalize modernist or secular ideologies under a veneer of “reasonable Catholicism.”
10. To demoralize traditional Catholics by creating doubt and confusion around traditional teachings and leaders.
11. To shift accountability away from the Jєωs and redirect criticism elsewhere.
12. To promote secular politics as the primary solution, downplaying or dismissing the need for a Catholic state.
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Intentional or not, their posts clearly reveal these objectives in action.
The items in bold have supporting evidence; the others are speculative but, in my view, likely true.
1.To flood the forum with content to “memory hole” or bury genuine discussions.
2. To sow discord and division among forum members.
3. To merge traditionalist and conciliar viewpoints subtly, diluting traditional positions.
4. To discredit traditionalist voices by provoking exaggerated or extreme responses.
5. To monitor and gather intelligence on traditionalist arguments and strategies.
6. To discourage users by creating an atmosphere of frustration and distrust.
7. To introduce gradual doctrinal errors under the guise of “reasonable” debate.
8. To shift focus away from central issues by constantly steering discussions toward trivial matters.
9. To normalize modernist or secular ideologies under a veneer of “reasonable Catholicism.”
10. To demoralize traditional Catholics by creating doubt and confusion around traditional teachings and leaders.
11. To shift accountability away from the Jєωs and redirect criticism elsewhere.
12. To promote secular politics as the primary solution, downplaying or dismissing the need for a Catholic state.
This is an excellent list
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Intentional or not, their posts clearly reveal these objectives in action.
The items in bold have supporting evidence; the others are speculative but, in my view, likely true.
1.To flood the forum with content to “memory hole” or bury genuine discussions.
2. To sow discord and division among forum members.
3. To merge traditionalist and conciliar viewpoints subtly, diluting traditional positions.
4. To discredit traditionalist voices by provoking exaggerated or extreme responses.
5. To monitor and gather intelligence on traditionalist arguments and strategies.
6. To discourage users by creating an atmosphere of frustration and distrust.
7. To introduce gradual doctrinal errors under the guise of “reasonable” debate.
8. To shift focus away from central issues by constantly steering discussions toward trivial matters.
9. To normalize modernist or secular ideologies under a veneer of “reasonable Catholicism.”
10. To demoralize traditional Catholics by creating doubt and confusion around traditional teachings and leaders.
11. To shift accountability away from the Jєωs and redirect criticism elsewhere.
12. To promote secular politics as the primary solution, downplaying or dismissing the need for a Catholic state.
Correct on every count.
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Pretty sure that's not something new, …
[sniff, wipes tear from an eye]
:laugh1::laugh2::jester:
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This means that approximately 80% of the absolute worst persecution around the globe takes place in the name Islam.
Most all of the revolutions and wars in Church history to the present time are/were funded and instigated by the Jєωιѕн, Masonic, communist cults. They play everyone, as though they are pawns on a chessboard, moving them around by propaganda and inciting violence and division. The greatest persecution is in the spiritual realm through heresies, ambiguity, double speak, and also using psychological warfare and mind control. So many souls are being deceived and following false christs straight to hell.
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I said Islamists are worse in current persecution, idiot, and that's an empirical fact, because no percentage share can be greater than 80%.
Islam has made more Christian martyrs than the pagan Romans did.
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When the Muslims get to ¼ BILLION, wake me up.
(and that doesn't include the Jєωιѕн contribution to surgical and chemical abortion)
https://archive.is/Gsnlb
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/359/039/original/1f300fb7d7aac448.png)
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It is that simple, Mark79's posting are not only in error, but they are also vulgar, he is a whacko... like I said, is there anything he doesn't blame on the Jєωs?
I found some spoiled leftovers in the refrigerator, had a flat tire a few months ago, and the wind blew over a couple of my potted citrus seedlings. The Jєωs didn't do that. :laugh1:
I don't like to use the term anti-semitic [so you will try to use a different meaningless slur, like "hate" and "persecute"]… the Germans did persecute and try to eliminate the Jєωs...
Actually, to this very day there is no evidence that a "final solution" was ever planned or intended. If you dispute that, produce the evidence that even the JMFs have not been able to adduce. Otherwise, STFU.
If you were honest, you'd admit that Germans were defending themselves against the same Jєωιѕн onslaught (e.g., economic cromes against humanity, mainstreaming of perversion, and ritual murder) that we are experiencing today.
Of course we are to pray and work for the conversion of the Jєωs, not to persecute them though...
While Sic Judaeis Non rejects "persceution," it allows wide leeway for self-defense and defense of our Faith.
I have repeatedly posted the infallible, unchangeable, perennial teachings of Councils, Popes, Saint, and Doctors that you have repeatedly ignored… while instead you infer teachings that do not exist and that are contradicted by Scripture and the Magisterium..
Here are nearly 100 such verifiable references to
Magisterium on the Jєωs: https://archive.is/nbt6S
You are welcome to keep ignoring it and substituting your own "Magisterium of None" at your own peril. In contumaciously ignoring the Magisterium, you discredit yourself.
St Paul implies [Oh really? You claim an inference even though St. Paul explicitly contradicts you.] that they will be converted when the fullness of the Gentiles are converted...
St. Paul explicitly states that a remnant will be saved:
"And Isaias crieth out concerning Israel: If the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved.
[Romans 9:27]
"Even so then at this present time also, there is a remnant saved according to the election of grace.
[Romans 11:5]
I believe …
Who cares what you believe? Practicing Catholics care about what the MAGISTERIUM believes.
this will happen when the fulness of typology is unlocked both in the Scriptures and historically,
See Scripture above: "remnant"
as there are many mistakes Christians make today which they would not do if they had a proper Jєωιѕн understanding as St Paul and the Disciples did.
Oh really??? You have hoisted yourself on your own petard.
Catholics need a proper Catholic understanding, NOT a Jєωιѕн understanding!
It is time to draw Matthew's attention to your promotion of outright Judaizing heresy.
For example, it would never have occurred to them that we would make the mistake of using Leavened Bread for Holy Communion as the Eastern Rite and Orthodox do, for a Jєω such a thing would be out of the question (Exodus 12) yet the early Church had both and never clarified and still to this day try and retain communion with the Eastern Rite by keeping silent about it... which I would not want to force anything on my Eastern Rite or Orthodox brothers and sisters, nevertheless, the truth about this needs to be told.
You've also got Michelangelo's sculpture of Moses with literal horns, another major mistake... for it prevents them from recognising the immense typology between Moses shining face and the Transfiguration of Christ... Aaron and St Peter etc.
Yeast and sculpture are your defense???
What utter bullshit; Yeast and sculpture are completely irrelevant to your heresies promoting (1) the universal salvation of Jєωs and (2) CAtholics should rely upon "Jєωιѕн understanding."
God Bless
I will draw Matthew's attention to your professed heresies.
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It is that simple, Mark79's posting are not only in error, but they are also vulgar, he is a whacko... like I said, is there anything he doesn't blame on the Jєωs?
I found some spoiled leftovers in the refrigerator, had a flat tire a few months ago, and the wind blew over a couple of my potted citrus seedlings. The Jєωs didn't do that. :laugh1:
I don't like to use the term anti-semitic [so you will try to use a different meaningless slur, like "hate" and "persecute"]… the Germans did persecute and try to eliminate the Jєωs...
Actually, to this very day there is no evidence that a "final solution" was ever planned or intended. If you dispute that, produce the evidence that even the JMFs have not been able to adduce. Otherwise, STFU.
If you were honest, you'd admit that Germans were defending themselves against the same Jєωιѕн onslaught (e.g., economic crimes against humanity, mainstreaming of perversion, and ritual murder) that we are experiencing today.
Of course we are to pray and work [more false piety] for the conversion of the Jєωs, not to persecute them though...
While Sic Judaeis Non rejects "persceution," it allows wide leeway for self-defense and defense of our Faith.
I have repeatedly posted the infallible, unchangeable, perennial teachings of Councils, Popes, Saint, and Doctors that you have repeatedly ignored… while instead you infer teachings that do not exist and that are contradicted by Scripture and the Magisterium.
Here are nearly 100 such verifiable references to
Magisterium on the Jєωs: https://archive.is/nbt6S
You are welcome to keep ignoring it and substituting your own "Magisterium of None" at your own peril. In contumaciously ignoring the Magisterium, you discredit yourself.
St Paul implies [Oh really? You claim an inference even though he explicitly contradicts you.] that they will be converted when the fullness of the Gentiles are converted...
St. Paul explicitly states that a remnant will be saved:
"And Isaias crieth out concerning Israel: If the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved.
[Romans 9:27]
"Even so then at this present time also, there is a remnant saved according to the election of grace.
[Romans 11:5]
I believe …
Who cares what you believe? Practicing Catholics care about what the MAGISTERIUM believes.
this will happen when the fulness of typology is unlocked both in the Scriptures and historically,
See Scripture above: "remnant"
as there are many mistakes Christians make today which they would not do if they had a proper Jєωιѕн understanding as St Paul and the Disciples did.
Oh really??? You have hoisted yourself on your own petard.
Catholics need a proper Catholic understanding, NOT a Jєωιѕн understanding!
It is time to draw Matthew's attention to your promotion of outright Judaizing heresy.
For example, it would never have occurred to them that we would make the mistake of using Leavened Bread for Holy Communion as the Eastern Rite and Orthodox do, for a Jєω such a thing would be out of the question (Exodus 12) yet the early Church had both and never clarified and still to this day try and retain communion with the Eastern Rite by keeping silent about it... which I would not want to force anything on my Eastern Rite or Orthodox brothers and sisters, nevertheless, the truth about this needs to be told.
You've also got Michelangelo's sculpture of Moses with literal horns, another major mistake... for it prevents them from recognising the immense typology between Moses shining face and the Transfiguration of Christ... Aaron and St Peter etc.
Yeast and sculpture are your defense???
What utter bullshit; Yeast and sculpture are completely irrelevant to your heresies promoting (1) the universal salvation of Jєωs and (2) Catholics should rely upon "Jєωιѕн understanding."
God Bless
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I just sent this message to Matthew:
Matthew, please review this post from josh987654321 and my rebuttal: https://www.cathinfo.com/computers-and-technology/something-sinister-is-afoot-here/msg962134/#msg962134
He has crossed the line of heresies into (1) professing universal salvation of the Jews in The End and (2) promoting a "Jєωιѕн understanding" of Scripture.
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I just sent this message to Matthew:
Another Judaizer creeps onto the forum :facepalm:
They are like ticks on a farm dog.
Remember what an insidious and cryptic troll Poche was?
It took several members months to expose his judaizing and present the hard evidence.
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Another Judaizer creeps onto the forum :facepalm:
They are like ticks on a farm dog.
Remember what an insidious and cryptic troll Poche was?
It took several members months to expose his judaizing and present the hard evidence.
Poche does indeed come to mind. Poche's style also exhibited the extreme false piety and out-of-context quotes exhibited by josh987654321 (and the other two problematic accounts, MarkM and Striving4Holiness), but Poche's subversive ambiguity depended largely upon "one liners."
Unlike Poche's ambiguity, josh987654321 has openly, repeatedly, and unambiguously stated his heresies (universal salvation of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan and Catholics need Jєωιѕн understanding). Rather than veiling his heresies in ambiguous one-liners and partial quotes like Poche, josh987654321 tries to bury his subversion in immense verbosity, irrelevant digressions, and outright word salad (a bit ironic for such a rabid Trumptard to share Kamala's style, eh?). Most importantly now, it may be interesting to speculate whether Poche has merely morphed into an older and more verbose heretic, but it is really just a sidelight.
It is undeniable that josh987654321 has openly, repeatedly, and explicitly pushed his two heresies: (1) universal salvation of Jєωs in The End and (2) "Jєωιѕн understanding necessary for Catholics."
It is equally undeniable that josh987654321 has assiduously avoided admitting or discussing of the mountain of Magisterium contradicting his heresies. Such avoidance is not the mark of mere ignorance amenable to catechesis. Such avoidance is the mark of a committed stiff-necked heretic intent on subverting the Faithful.
I call upon josh987654321 to abjure his heresies.
I call upon josh987654321 to clearly and unambiguously admit that in The End only a remnant of Jєωs will convert and be saved.
I call upon josh987654321 to clearly and unambiguously admit that Catholics need Catholic understandings, not Jєωιѕн misunderstandings.
If josh987654321 cannot bring himself to succinctly and unambiguously affirm those Truths, he is a heretic.
We must not allow him to hide behind verbosity, false piety, out-of-context or partial quotes, or word salad.
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I call upon josh987654321
Who are you? The Pope? lol
First of all, you can call me names I don't care, (thankfully in this day and age you can't slander people as heretics and burn them at the stake like what happened to St Joan of Arc)... but the vulgar stuff needs to stop, the vulgar images and vulgar language... totally inappropriate.
Secondly, if you didn't read universal salvation of the Gentiles out of that then you cannot read universal salvation of the Jєωs out of it either...
Thirdly, you do need a Jєωιѕн understanding... Jesus was a Jєω, his entire ministry was preaching among the Jєωs, all his disciples were Jєωs and Christ came through this people precisely because of how he would complete it, Jesus obeyed all the laws. The great crime of the Scribes and Pharisee's is not only the rejection of their (and our) Messiah, but also the severing of the link between the new and the old... thus the Gentiles would make some considerable mistakes that no Jєωιѕн convert would make and the Jєωs who became Christians did not make such mistakes, St Paul did so well precisely because of his Jєωιѕн background and Jєωιѕн understanding.
Like I said, the Michelangelo Sculpture of Moses with literal horns is another significant error, as it prevents them from linking the shining face of Moses with the Transfiguration of Christ. Leavened Bread is also another significant error (no offense to my Eastern Rite and Orthodox brothers and sisters, but it has to be said), for while 'Artos' is ambiguous, Exodus 12 most certainly is not, thus when Jesus sent St Peter and St John to prepare a Passover, there is no question about it, no leaven to even be in the house.
There is much more typology to unlock which I am still learning and many of the early Church fathers knew, especially those with a Jєωιѕн background like St Paul and the Disciples.
Finally, like I said, is there anything you don't blame on the Jєωs? How about you take some personal responsibility and stop looking for scapegoats to blame literally anything and everything on, It's too much and you look foolish. The Jєωs ate my homework too lol, also, I don't care if I get banned, will probably be gone soon anyway given some of the laws being passed in my own nation, thankfully you lost and Trump won so platforms like X will still be around and they will not have as much power to censor speech.
"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."
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As I said:
If josh987654321 cannot bring himself to succinctly and unambiguously affirm those Truths, he is a heretic.
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It is undeniable that josh987654321 has openly, repeatedly, and explicitly pushed his two heresies: (1) universal salvation of Jєωs in The End and (2) "Jєωιѕн understanding necessary for Catholics."
It is equally undeniable that josh987654321 has assiduously avoided admitting or discussing of the mountain of Magisterium contradicting his heresies. Such avoidance is not the mark of mere ignorance amenable to catechesis. Such avoidance is the mark of a committed stiff-necked heretic intent on subverting the Faithful.
I call upon josh987654321 to abjure his heresies.
I call upon josh987654321 to clearly and unambiguously admit that in The End only a remnant of Jєωs will convert and be saved.
I call upon josh987654321 to clearly and unambiguously admit that Catholics need Catholic understandings, not Jєωιѕн misunderstandings.
If josh987654321 cannot bring himself to succinctly and unambiguously affirm those Truths, he is a heretic.
We must not allow him to hide behind verbosity, false piety, out-of-context or partial quotes, or word salad.
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It is undeniable
You're still upset Trump won and you didn't get your way with many Catholics rightly voting for him... I know lol.
It's a good thing too, for you were totally foolish to blindly condemn Trump just so hαɾɾιs could get in and reinstate Roe v Wade among so much more... I'm very relieved you lost, so I couldn't care less what accusations you throw at me or even if I get banned, wouldn't be the first time and like I said, I'll be gone soon anyway given some new laws aimed at censorship through stealth my nation is trying to pass... Thankfully they can't touch platforms like X and VPN's exist (not that I'd ever return to a forum I have been banned from even though I could, this is my username on all forums I have joined and I have never posted under a different name).
So all your threats are totally worthless lol.
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You're still upset Trump won and you didn't get your way with many Catholics rightly voting for him... I know lol.
It's a good thing too, for you were totally foolish to blindly condemn Trump just so hαɾɾιs could get in and reinstate Roe v Wade among so much more... I'm very relieved you lost, so I couldn't care less what accusations you throw at me or even if I get banned, wouldn't be the first time and like I said, I'll be gone soon anyway given some new laws aimed at censorship through stealth my nation is trying to pass... Thankfully they can't touch platforms like X and VPN's exist.
So all your threats are totally worthless lol.
With your hysterical over-statements, straw men, and illogic, you really have mastered female impersonation.
Congratulations.
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It is undeniable that josh987654321 has openly, repeatedly, and explicitly pushed his two heresies: (1) universal salvation of Jєωs in The End and (2) "Jєωιѕн understanding necessary for Catholics."
It is equally undeniable that josh987654321 has assiduously avoided admitting or discussing of the mountain of Magisterium contradicting his heresies. Such avoidance is not the mark of mere ignorance amenable to catechesis. Such avoidance is the mark of a committed stiff-necked heretic intent on subverting the Faithful.
I call upon josh987654321 to abjure his heresies.
I call upon josh987654321 to clearly and unambiguously admit that in The End only a remnant of Jєωs will convert and be saved.
I call upon josh987654321 to clearly and unambiguously admit that Catholics need Catholic understandings, not Jєωιѕн misunderstandings.
If josh987654321 cannot bring himself to succinctly and unambiguously affirm those Truths, he is a heretic.
We must not allow him to hide behind verbosity, false piety, out-of-context or partial quotes, or word salad.
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It is that simple, Mark79's posting are not only in error, but they are also vulgar, he is a whacko... like I said, is there anything he doesn't blame on the Jєωs?
I found some spoiled leftovers in the refrigerator, had a flat tire a few months ago, and the wind blew over a couple of my potted citrus seedlings. The Jєωs didn't do that. :laugh1:
I don't like to use the term anti-semitic [so you will try to use a different meaningless slur, like "hate" and "persecute"]… the Germans did persecute and try to eliminate the Jєωs...
Actually, to this very day there is no evidence that a "final solution" was ever planned or intended. If you dispute that, produce the evidence that even the JMFs have not been able to adduce. Otherwise, STFU.
If you were honest, you'd admit that Germans were defending themselves against the same Jєωιѕн onslaught (e.g., economic crimes against humanity, mainstreaming of perversion, and ritual murder) that we are experiencing today.
Of course we are to pray and work [more false piety] for the conversion of the Jєωs, not to persecute them though...
While Sic Judaeis Non rejects "persceution," it allows wide leeway for self-defense and defense of our Faith.
I have repeatedly posted the infallible, unchangeable, perennial teachings of Councils, Popes, Saint, and Doctors that you have repeatedly ignored… while instead you infer teachings that do not exist and that are contradicted by Scripture and the Magisterium.
Here are nearly 100 such verifiable references to
Magisterium on the Jєωs: https://archive.is/nbt6S
You are welcome to keep ignoring it and substituting your own "Magisterium of None" at your own peril. In contumaciously ignoring the Magisterium, you discredit yourself.
St Paul implies [Oh really? You claim an inference even though he explicitly contradicts you.] that they will be converted when the fullness of the Gentiles are converted...
St. Paul explicitly states that a remnant will be saved:
"And Isaias crieth out concerning Israel: If the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved.
[Romans 9:27]
"Even so then at this present time also, there is a remnant saved according to the election of grace.
[Romans 11:5]
I believe …
Who cares what you believe? Practicing Catholics care about what the MAGISTERIUM believes.
this will happen when the fulness of typology is unlocked both in the Scriptures and historically,
See Scripture above: "remnant"
as there are many mistakes Christians make today which they would not do if they had a proper Jєωιѕн understanding as St Paul and the Disciples did.
Oh really??? You have hoisted yourself on your own petard.
Catholics need a proper Catholic understanding, NOT a Jєωιѕн understanding!
It is time to draw Matthew's attention to your promotion of outright Judaizing heresy.
For example, it would never have occurred to them that we would make the mistake of using Leavened Bread for Holy Communion as the Eastern Rite and Orthodox do, for a Jєω such a thing would be out of the question (Exodus 12) yet the early Church had both and never clarified and still to this day try and retain communion with the Eastern Rite by keeping silent about it... which I would not want to force anything on my Eastern Rite or Orthodox brothers and sisters, nevertheless, the truth about this needs to be told.
You've also got Michelangelo's sculpture of Moses with literal horns, another major mistake... for it prevents them from recognising the immense typology between Moses shining face and the Transfiguration of Christ... Aaron and St Peter etc.
Yeast and sculpture are your defense???
What utter bullshit; Yeast and sculpture are completely irrelevant to your heresies promoting (1) the universal salvation of Jєωs and (2) Catholics should rely upon "Jєωιѕн understanding."
God Bless
Mark and Josh keep repeating the same nonsense. When the indesputable truth is laid out in front of them, they start a new thread. They repeat the same errors over and over and do not submit to Catholic dogma.
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Mark and Josh keep repeating the same nonsense. When the indesputable truth is laid out in front of them, they start a new thread. They repeat the same errors over and over and do not submit to Catholic dogma.
The trolls post error; I post a rebuttal.
What error do you claim I post and re-post?
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Mark and Josh keep repeating the same nonsense. When the indesputable truth is laid out in front of them, they start a new thread. They repeat the same errors over and over and do not submit to Catholic dogma.
I stated my conclusions about their actions in another post.
I am not a free speech advocate; I firmly believe that blasphemy warrants banning and that obstinate heretics and schismatics should be excluded. MarkM demonstrates obstinacy in his schismatic adherence to false Conciliar beliefs, while Josh’s views on the salvation of Jews reveal heresy.
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The trolls post error; I post a rebuttal.
What error do you claim I post and re-post?
I believe she is referring to MarkM.
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I believe she is referring to MarkM.
Yes, she just clarified that with me by PM.
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I believe she is referring to MarkM.
Yes. I'm sorry for not being specific. My mistake.
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S4H just recently turned up with no history or introduction and has not yet posted enough to draw many conclusions.
I agree with your post, Jayne.
I hadn't quite gotten a handle on this new poster (if he is a "new" poster because his posts seemed familiar to me). However, it seems he hasn't posted in a few days, so I wonder whether he'll be back.
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Intentional or not, their posts clearly reveal these objectives in action.
The items in bold have supporting evidence; the others are speculative but, in my view, likely true.
1.To flood the forum with content to “memory hole” or bury genuine discussions.
2. To sow discord and division among forum members.
3. To merge traditionalist and conciliar viewpoints subtly, diluting traditional positions.
4. To discredit traditionalist voices by provoking exaggerated or extreme responses.
5. To monitor and gather intelligence on traditionalist arguments and strategies.
6. To discourage users by creating an atmosphere of frustration and distrust.
7. To introduce gradual doctrinal errors under the guise of “reasonable” debate.
8. To shift focus away from central issues by constantly steering discussions toward trivial matters.
9. To normalize modernist or secular ideologies under a veneer of “reasonable Catholicism.”
10. To demoralize traditional Catholics by creating doubt and confusion around traditional teachings and leaders.
11. To shift accountability away from the Jєωs and redirect criticism elsewhere.
12. To promote secular politics as the primary solution, downplaying or dismissing the need for a Catholic state.
I meant to respond to this earlier, but just want to add that I agree with others here that the above list is very good. A good summary of their goals.
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Regarding MarkM
…Anyway, with his hysterical over-reaction to the meme, the pattern fell into place:
manic posting
grandiose self-importance
paranoid over-reaction
apparent sleeplessness
verbosity as a "pressured speech" equivalent
hysterical style
I think MarkM has a specific psychiatric problem, a manic episode of bipolar disorder.
Just as I don't push old ladies out of wheelchairs, now that I see the pattern, I'm not going to argue with him. He is malfunctioning.
Obviously he is unlikely to get medical or spiritual help on my recommendation.
Typically bipolars treasure the "high" of their manic phase (until they physically collapse from exhaustion), so refuse to see it for the pathology it is. They will typically reject the medical diagnosis and refuse (or discontinue) helpful medications. Usually they "rabbit" but, if they seek medical help at all, they go "doctor shopping" until they find a doctor who misses (or ignores) the diagnosis.… or until their impulsive behavior draws the attention of the police and forced into treatment.
The moral problem for me at this point is whether or not josh987654321 is just another of MarkM's self-admitted multiple forum accounts. I have not decided yet if josh987654321 deserves a "pass" due to mental illness.
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I’ve always thought Matthew should have instituted an Inquisition & Burning at the Stake ritual on Cathinfo.