I would guess that a man who cannot be aware of a woman discreetly breastfeeding without having impure thoughts, would probably also have issues with the sight of a pregnant woman or a woman with children.

Depends on the woman and how "discreet" she is being.

A beautiful buxom woman shouldn't be baring her breast in public.

And let's not forget the poor adolescent boys out there.

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Depends on the woman and how "discreet" she is being.

A beautiful buxom woman shouldn't be baring her breast in public.

This is the thing. A woman does not need to bare a breast to breastfeed. It can be done without displaying anything.

That some women don't bother being discreet, does not mean that it is always done indiscreetly.

It doesn't matter that it can be done discreetly, it's not appropriate in every public circuмstance, barring emergency-ish situations of course, I know they happen. I had to nurse on a mall bench once. I always dressed in such a way that it could be done discreetly but public nursing still wasn't my preference. I would not do it just to "prove a point", which I know very well is the attitude of a very high percentage of adamant public nursers. I have fought this many times with non-trads, didn't know it was an issue among trads!

I think it is perfectly natural to see breastfeeding/pregnancy/children, and possibly, although not necessarily, end up thinking of sex. And there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's crazy puritan to think it's so terrible for the mind to go there.  Trying to fault men for thinking of sex is a very tired excuse for women to continue doing as they please with no regard.

Women didn't start going to the backrooms to nurse because it was seen as a terrible thing and they were being suppressed. If that were the case then I would agree...come to the front rooms! Defy the awful tyranny of those who "despise" breastfeeding! But that is not the case. I think that idea is feminist propaganda to get women out there fighting for their "rights".

I know from my own experience with countless trad women that women who are truly modest at heart, not just in clothing, prefer to go to the backroom when in public or mixed company. They prefer it because there is a sense of the sacred in nursing. They prefer it because they don't have to be uncomfortable or cause even the possibility of someone else being uncomfortable.

Besides who wants to mess with a freaking blanket? My son refused to keep them on. Why stubbornly sit in mixed company fighting a blanket, making a big deal out of nursing, being on edge wondering who is thinking what, hoping you aren't tempting anyone, ready to grab the blanket at any minute and throw it back on before someone catches a glimpse as the baby unlatches. Ugh, what a terrible experience! No wonder no one wants to nurse anymore. Just go to a back room, enjoy the love of your baby, enjoy the little break, it's such a short time we have with them.

Nursing was always a private, intimate moment between my baby and me; it's me at my most vulnerable, as a mother, as a wife, as a woman, why would I treat that like pearls before swine?

Bottom line, seeing breastfeeding can be a very sensual experience for a man, even if it's discreet, they still know what's going on. They don't have to physically see anything. So is a sexily clad pregnant body, which incidentally also doesn't have to bare skin to be sexy. Do adamant public nursers not have husbands to testify!? I have never understood the blind refusal to accept, right from the horse's mouth, that this is a sensitive topic for men. It's real, women need to deal with it and dress or act accordingly.  

I would guess that a man who cannot be aware of a woman discreetly breastfeeding without having impure thoughts, would probably also have issues with the sight of a pregnant woman or a woman with children.

Probably not, but in this day and age it wouldn't surprise me if some men have a fetish about pregnant women.  The problem with breastfeeding in public does seem to be a problem more so in the U.S. then in any other country. But sodomizing little boys, raping little girls or necrophilla shouldn't be a thought to anyone either, but it happens.  We live in a sick society that gets sicker every day.  What can we expect to happen when more and more people follow the ways of satan then the ways of God? :cry:

I would guess that a man who cannot be aware of a woman discreetly breastfeeding without having impure thoughts, would probably also have issues with the sight of a pregnant woman or a woman with children.

Wow I actually agree with you for once!

It is definitely a tactic of feminism to accuse men of being perverted for having reactions that can only be considered normal.  Feminism is full of heads you win/tails I lose propositions.  If a man complains he's branded as uptight, a prude or worse, but at the slightest pretext he will be suspected and accused of wrongdoing.  

 I recall when being shown around the University of Chicago being disgusted with fact that dorms had coed bathrooms.  I imagine if a student complained too much he'd be heavily criticized, but no doubt a great deal of suspicion was directed towards the male students in general because of that arrangement.

Of course, that's a very sick arrangement, but I think the way to approach these issues is to ask if a 12 or 13 year old boy can handle it.  If not - then it shouldn't be done.  Casting aspersion on men as a class for having perverted thoughts or saying that it wouldn't only "perverted men" would have a problem is just that same sort of no-win feminist proposition.

Poor Clare is in the UK I just can't imagine what the cuмulative psychological effect of being exposed to that liberal left state gone made must be.


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It is definitely a tactic of feminism to accuse men of being perverted for having reactions that can only be considered normal.  

Usually if you argue against feminism, in even a benign fashion, they have a reflective 'sɛҳuąƖ hangup' defense, sort of their version of the 'Authoritarian Personality'.

It has nothing to do with "this day and age". Humans have always been highly sɛҳuąƖ beings and breastfeeding and pregnancy have always highlighted the unique beauty of the woman. I have no doubt that men throughout the ages have found it to be a nearly irresistible mystery.