It seems to me that breastfeeding should be done like so many other things in public: with discretion and due care to ensure privacy and modesty.  Sitting in the very back of the church or in the cry room with a blanket covering oneself and the baby is thoughtful and polite towards others in your midst.  It's only an issue when the mother insists that she should be able to open her blouse anywhere and nurse her baby.  Just because she's nursing doesn't make breast exposure modest.  

I agree.

This is exactly what I am talking about.  It isnt just Mass, but the idea of public breastfeeding period.  I've seen women whip em out in a restaurant.  You think men dont notice this?  Its an occasion of sin for them.  

"Whipping 'em out" is not what I am defending, and is totally unnecessary.

Perhaps you only ever notice it when they're "whipped out", but there may have been plenty of instances of it taking place completely unbeknownst to you, Robert.

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This is exactly what I am talking about.  It isnt just Mass, but the idea of public breastfeeding period.  I've seen women whip em out in a restaurant.  You think men dont notice this?  Its an occasion of sin for them.  

"Whipping 'em out" is not what I am defending, and is totally unnecessary.

Perhaps you only ever notice it when they're "whipped out", but there may have been plenty of instances of it taking place completely unbeknownst to you, Robert.

Well, in that case then I wouldnt be able to say much about it then.  But I have seen some trads defend the wherever, whenever breastfeeding up to and including Mass and every public place under the sun.

   I've seen women whip em out  

RdB, sounds like an idea you might want to take to Hollyweird, you know, another remake, but with a slightly different take of, The Gunfight At The OK Corral.  :roll-laugh1:  

But all kidding aside, the men on the forum and everywhere else have enough difficulties daily trying to avoid occasions of sin because of television, billboards, magazines, the latest women's fashions, etc., why add anymore stress on them by breastfeeding in public, especially in church?  

The fact is that it can be and has been an occasion of sin to men.  We are living in a highly sɛҳuąƖly charged time.  

Not just a question for Alexandria...
What do you see exactly as the occassion of sin? ... actually revealing something in an attempt to bf in public ... OR merely the act of breastfeeding (with a nursing cover perhaps) as it encourages some men to think about the woman's chest?

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The fact is that it can be and has been an occasion of sin to men.  We are living in a highly sɛҳuąƖly charged time.  

Not just a question for Alexandria...
What do you see exactly as the occassion of sin? ... actually revealing something in an attempt to bf in public ... OR merely the act of breastfeeding (with a nursing cover perhaps) as it encourages some men to think about the woman's chest?

Both.  

I have sat in on discussions about this many times with men.  Ask them.

I realize being a traditional often shields us from the mainstream smut and pornography, but this really isn't a good time for women to declare their "breastfeeding in public" rights.  

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The fact is that it can be and has been an occasion of sin to men.  We are living in a highly sɛҳuąƖly charged time.  

Not just a question for Alexandria...
What do you see exactly as the occassion of sin? ... actually revealing something in an attempt to bf in public ... OR merely the act of breastfeeding (with a nursing cover perhaps) as it encourages some men to think about the woman's chest?

Both.

I have sat in on discussions about this many times with men.  Ask them.

I realize being a traditional often shields us from the mainstream smut and pornography, but this really isn't a good time for women to declare their "breastfeeding in public" rights.  

Delicately put Alexandria, good job.  Mater, I've noticed that the majority of the men who have responded in a negative way to the subject of public breastfeeding in this thread are unmarried.

Good point, Clare.

This day and age puts forward an activity that is normally less than 0.25% of human activity, and makes one's whole lifestyle revolve around it!

As if everything is either sex, something leading up to it, or something that makes it possible in some way. Give me a break!

It's hard to think about the concept of "marriage" these days without immediately thinking about the marital debt, the way the world has totally focused on sex.

In reality, we should think about discipline, teaching children, practicing the virtue of patience, doing hard work, a noisy house, children playing with toys and/or fighting, family hugs, the spouses working side by side, doing dishes and other chores, praying the Rosary together, etc. because those things take up WAY MORE TIME percentage wise than anything that happens in private between husband and wife.

Nevertheless, especially when I was single, those everyday things were NOT what I first thought of when someone said the word "marriage".

Maybe it's because I have watched TV and movies in the past (and listened to pop music) which placed those thoughts in my subconscious? Who knows.

Matthew