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Offline Jaynek

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« Reply #135 on: August 04, 2012, 10:36:30 AM »
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    Although it is true that the body responds to different requirements by raising and lowering different hormones (and this should be obvious once you consider it), within limits of course, I think you misunderstood what I'm saying. The issue is a woman becoming basically more masculine through sport, whether this is due to an increase in basal testosterone or a more violent attitude or both.


    I can follow your reasoning concerning violent attitude, but your statements regarding hormones are different enough from what I learned about this that I am puzzled. I'm wondering if your comments about basal testosterone refer to younger women.  Most of my reading was focused on women my own age.  For us, we face drastic hormone changes, whether we exercise or not, when we naturally lose our fertility.  As I understand it, the hormone changes induced by weight lifting merely offset the hormone changes of menopause and so reduce its unpleasant symptoms.  I can't recall seeing anything that suggested the hormone changes from weight lifting make an post-menopausal woman more masculine.  I am far from being an expert on this, so I am willing to re-examine this if you can suggest further reading to me.

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    « Reply #136 on: August 04, 2012, 10:41:09 AM »
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  • technical difficulties caused double post


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    « Reply #137 on: August 06, 2012, 09:29:43 AM »
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    Sex education for kindergartners???!!   That is so sick.


    Hmm mmm. Found out that little "bag of joy" when my little sister came home one day talking about her privates from the public school.

    It goes right back to Georg Lukacs and his "cultural Marxist terrorism" of supporting "sex education" for children.


    In other threads you have no problems with public school though? You go so far to take issue with trad Catholics who are critical of public schools too.

    What is even sicker is the same publishing companies that published a pedophile book also published the books for the young children attempting to present sodomites as normal family units. Heather Has Two _____ was one book.

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    « Reply #138 on: August 06, 2012, 09:47:07 AM »
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  • what Trad Catholic would have no problems with public schools?????? :shocked:

    said persons would either have a real lack of discernment, lack of research or not really overly trad, but merely, using name.... :confused1:
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    « Reply #139 on: August 06, 2012, 04:57:09 PM »
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    I'd like to add to your post that a career leads to a woman definitely holding off marriage, thinking she has the 'good life' now with the money and doesn't need a man to support her. Even worse under affirmative action women will get the job over men so a man wanting to start a family will be stripped of his duties and responsibilities by women holding jobs.


    Very true. Just think how much the economy could improve and how the unemployment rate would fall if more mothers stayed home. It's a lifestyle thing though. Materialism corrupts many.  This why I'm leaning towards not chasing a promotion that could go to a man trying to keep his wife at home with the kids. I have to work no matter what, but a new position  might make the difference for another family.
    ~For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen, is not hope. For what a man seeth, why doth he hope for? But if we hope for that which we see not, we wait for it with patience. ~ Romans 8:24-25


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    « Reply #140 on: August 06, 2012, 08:22:40 PM »
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  • Real wages have been falling since 1973. So part of the reason was necessity, if the standard of living was going to be maintained.

    "Real wages never recovered their pre-1973 recession peak. As wages dropped through the decades, the number of people in an average household that had to work—in order to make ends meet—increased."

    Source: http://www.shadowstats.com/article/no-414-hyperinflation-special-report-2012


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    « Reply #141 on: August 06, 2012, 10:39:55 PM »
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  • I always wonder what constitutes "making ends meet."

    I can't help but laugh when I read all the news articles about what it costs to have a baby. When you look at the breakdown it is ridiculously over inflated. They often calculate outrageous amounts for clothing and baby equipment. They never consider breastfeeding,cloth diapers, shopping the clearance rack for the opposite season or going to thrift stores and garage sales.  They don't consider that you can buy 2-3 year old baby gear (most of which you don't need anyway) that has only been used by 1-2 kids, for a fraction of the price on Craig's list.

    Babies are obviously only one category of expenses, but I would imagine there are other areas where cost of living is based on a very cushy version of making ends meet.

    Many dual income families put so much towards daycare and dual student loans that it just doesn't seem to make much sense to have the mother work.

    Sadly, women do takes jobs from men and it breaks down the whole family model.
    ~For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen, is not hope. For what a man seeth, why doth he hope for? But if we hope for that which we see not, we wait for it with patience. ~ Romans 8:24-25

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    « Reply #142 on: August 07, 2012, 05:51:28 AM »
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    what Trad Catholic would have no problems with public schools?????? :shocked:


    She is taking what I said out of context. I have made my criticism of public schools well known.


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    « Reply #143 on: August 07, 2012, 05:52:28 AM »
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    Real wages have been falling since 1973. So part of the reason was necessity, if the standard of living was going to be maintained.

    "Real wages never recovered their pre-1973 recession peak. As wages dropped through the decades, the number of people in an average household that had to work—in order to make ends meet—increased."

    Source: http://www.shadowstats.com/article/no-414-hyperinflation-special-report-2012



    And why have real wages fallen? Because of free trade destroying our manufactoring base and the "family living wage" being destroyed.

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    « Reply #144 on: August 07, 2012, 05:56:46 AM »
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    Heather Has Two _____ was one book.


    Yes a very vile book. Moms are the front lines in this culture war. She is the one who goes to the school board to protest this stuff or cuts off the TV when something vile comes on.

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    « Reply #145 on: August 07, 2012, 05:58:57 AM »
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    Very true. Just think how much the economy could improve and how the unemployment rate would fall if more mothers stayed home. It's a lifestyle thing though. Materialism corrupts many.  This why I'm leaning towards not chasing a promotion that could go to a man trying to keep his wife at home with the kids. I have to work no matter what, but a new position  might make the difference for another family.


    What's even more sad is that conservatism used to be about traditional values. Now all it cares about is money and what the corporations want. My how the movement has fallen.


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    « Reply #146 on: August 07, 2012, 07:57:55 AM »
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    Very true. Just think how much the economy could improve and how the unemployment rate would fall if more mothers stayed home. It's a lifestyle thing though. Materialism corrupts many.  This why I'm leaning towards not chasing a promotion that could go to a man trying to keep his wife at home with the kids. I have to work no matter what, but a new position  might make the difference for another family.


    What's even more sad is that conservatism used to be about traditional values. Now all it cares about is money and what the corporations want. My how the movement has fallen.


    conservatives put a line in the sand, then the water washes it away or, they re-draw it.......RL Dabney had a great quote on it, for a Prot:

    "Conservatism's history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution, to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward to perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt hath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted? Its impotency is not hard to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It tends to risk nothing serious for the sake of truth."

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    « Reply #147 on: August 07, 2012, 07:58:57 AM »
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    what Trad Catholic would have no problems with public schools?????? :shocked:


    She is taking what I said out of context. I have made my criticism of public schools well known.


    ok :smile:
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    « Reply #148 on: August 07, 2012, 08:01:09 AM »
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  • BTW, after seeral weeks on sick and recovery list, went bac kto teh gym-went last week, but made me almost relapse.

    Result, plenty of women in skimpy and tight clothing that made thingsa bit distracting, mainly listened to music and focused on exercises and the TV occ.......thankfully, no Faux news or etc.Really, lost a lot just those few weeks in progress to stamina, strength......
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    « Reply #149 on: August 07, 2012, 08:08:08 AM »
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    conservatives put a line in the sand, then the water washes it away or, they re-draw it.......RL Dabney had a great quote on it, for a Prot:

    "Conservatism's history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution, to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward to perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt hath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted? Its impotency is not hard to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It tends to risk nothing serious for the sake of truth."



    I guess it depends on what "conservatism" you are referring to. I consider myself an old school, traditional conservative. But you know the biggest reason the Right consistently fails is that members from the Left have converted the Right to their liberal and Trotskyite ideology.