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Offline curiouscatholic23

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« on: October 11, 2011, 03:57:48 PM »
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  • Am I the only one bothered by this secular trend of little girls playing competitive sports like little boys such as basketball, baseball, and soccer?

    I officiate youth sports and ever since my conversion I feel guilty about officiating a 2nd grade girls basketball game. Its obvious the girls are not that into it, but the parents and coaches keep yelling at the girls to be more agressive and competitive.....the more agressive girls are the ones who are applauded and awarded, while the more feminine girls who just run around aimlessly are ostracized.

    To me competitive sports teaches one how to be agressive and how to be competitive. Those are masculine qualities that belong with men/boys. Is that sexist or traditional catholic teaching?

    These types of games are continued into high school where girls get on these traveling basketball/soccer teams which are even more competitive. Am I the only one who has a problem with this? I am not going to encourage my daughters (should I be blessed with any) to engage in competitive athletics. Its just not natural. I dont get why 99% of the secular world thinks its ok to push little girls into masculine endeavors. Just crazy. Don they see that when these girls grow up they will reflect their upbringing, and these comptetive natures will come out to the fullest? Competing with her husband?


    Im also bothered when I work out at the local gym by my house. Since when did women lift weights? I don't get it. Why do women think its ok to dress extremely provocatively like they do in these 24 hour fitness? Why do people care so much about their bodies? Particuarly women, whose bodies were created to carry numerous children?

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    « Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 04:18:12 PM »
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  • You've started a thread like this before and I shared my thoughts. But as a refresher:

    I'm against women playing sports. They don't need to work out either, unless they're overweight or something.


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    « Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 04:20:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
    You've started a thread like this before and I shared my thoughts. But as a refresher:

    I'm against women playing sports. They don't need to work out either, unless they're overweight or something.


    lol thanks for reminding me. I apologize for the re-thread. It just really bugged me today.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 04:25:34 PM »
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  • LOL, it's alright.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 04:29:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
    LOL, it's alright.


    Sometimes I just go crazy thinking about feminism and  how it has ruined every single aspect of our society. And  I mean every aspect. For example look at the economy. How many women are taking mens job's right now? How have the wages in this country been destroyed by women? Its impossible to count.

    Public high schools have these clubs where they encourage women to go into fields dominated by men like engineering. Why? Why? To take even more from men? What is going on here?

    Im unemployed too right now so I am trying to stay positive, but I'll admit I get pissed off thinking about how much better the economy could be if feminism was not celebrated.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 04:31:26 PM »
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  • I know what you mean. The feminist movement (which is really more masculine than feminine) is immoral and against what the Church teaches about gender roles. Sadly, alot of Novus Ordites fall for this feminist junk as well.

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    « Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 05:37:43 PM »
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  • I agree with you.  I also think boys sports is way overdone.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 07:08:44 PM »
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  • With regard to 2nd graders, I don't get the inter-sports for them. Everyone needs physical activity that they enjoy. I have seen parents and coaches get all bound up in a game, softball, soccer, football. It's an ego thing for the parents and something they really need to have a real moment with to identify that and resolve. If nothing else to assure that they aren't in some way living vicariously through their children. And we've all been party to a set parents like that once in our lives at least.

    When it comes to sports in general for girls/women-I'm all for it. I was a basketball player in high school and played it the first year of my undergrad. And loved it immensely. I started playing when my father, his mother and my sister would meet outside by the garage and play and I was steadily beating my dad who is a phenomenal player in many aspects. (He played for the St. Louis Cardinals for 1 season before he blew out his knee). My maternal grandmother was mind blowing and she taught me moves that carried me far in my little high school athletic career. She was all star in her state in 1940, 1942 and 1943. She was tall, beautiful, charming and simply lovely in every way.

    After my transfer to a different school they did not offer baskeball but lacrosse. And I played marginally well most I had to show for my efforts were bruised, injured shins, shoulder from fall and frankly a ton of mean girls. But I didn't go to that school as a transfer student for athletics but for it's academic rigor.

    Today, at a very old 40 (I can not believe it!) I am a marathon runner.  I used to do triathlons but realized that I didn't enjoy it anymore so scaled back. Today, I run about 3 miles a day which isn't a lot. I used to run about 8 miles per day. But I have a life so something had to give.

    Am I a modernist because I exercise? No. I enjoy the physical activity. I do get a lot of benefits for my activities. Mainly the ever present (and sometimes difficult to attain) 'second wind' which is addictive. I generally can eat whatever I want without worry. Though as I'm aging I'm noticing it's not as forgiving as it used to be, so sooner than later I'll be modifying that last sentence. ;)

    If we lived in a time where physical labor was part and parcel to our survival I can guarantee you me running just for the 'fun' of it wouldn't be happening. I can venture a guess that the reason there is this type of physical activity in women (and men) is primarily because we are hard wired to be physically active in some aspect. Most people are not from an aristocratic background and farming or a type of trade was all manually intensive. Coming from farming communities such as myself I loved farm work and miss it in a nostalgic way. Living it wouldn't be my cup of tea right now simply because I have become accustomed to what my life is now.

    If you feel guilty about being around these children doing this could you perhaps request a different venue or age/gender group?  I don't think you're sexist at all. I think your a kind, sensitive person who is protecting his self, his soul. Many hugs to you, sweetheart.


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    « Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 07:21:35 PM »
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  • Thank you Wisonsheepgirl. I appreciate that.

    I have a question for you though. When you are working out and doing your marathons do you feel any less feminine?

    Also, what do you wear when you run/workout? In my opinion 99% of women/young girls I see these days wear short shorts that show a lot of thighs. If the girl is pretty and my age it is kind of a turn on, which then forces me to turn the other way and not stare. Its hard. The other day I was driving home and all the public middle school girls who looked about 13 years old were running by my house and every single one of them was wearing shorts well above the knee. Was I scandalized? No, because they were way too young for me. But if they were 23 instead of 13 then ya I probably would have been strongly tempted.

    Oh and 3 miles a day is still a lot.

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    « Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 07:43:30 PM »
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  • I must say that I do agree with you curiouscatholic, and that it is definitely not good for women to be doing sports like football and the like (swimming and skating, however, are probably two exceptions, so long as they are not doing so aggressively and dress appropriately).

    However, the fact that women nowadays play sports means that there was some period when women didn't play sports at all, and so there is an empty space to fill. If women didn't play sports, what did they do for fun? What are some good, feminine activities that women can do that are a lot of fun and wholesome?


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    « Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 07:49:53 PM »
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  • Today's sports-crazy world aside, (I agree it's a bit much), women need to exercise, even weights. You may not be sexist but you may misunderstand what it means to be feminine if it's leading you to think women don't need healthy competition and exercise as well (you too SS). That's not a gender thing, that is a human being thing, part of what makes us healthy and happy. Strength training for example helps protect a woman against osteoporosis as she ages. It helps women during pregnancy and in labor when they are strong and in good shape. It helps her have more energy for her daily duties. Most of us would be better wives and mothers in many ways for exercising. It doesn't take away from the traditional role at all. Ideally gyms would not be mixed, but as I said, modern world aside, we need to stay active and at more than just housekeeping in order to be healthy.


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    « Reply #11 on: October 11, 2011, 08:53:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: wallflower
    Today's sports-crazy world aside, (I agree it's a bit much), women need to exercise, even weights.


    No, women don't need to lift weights. They don't need big muscles. That is a rather feministic comment. There's nothing wrong with jogging or doing simple exercises, but lifting weights?

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    You may not be sexist but you may misunderstand what it means to be feminine if it's leading you to think women don't need healthy competition and exercise as well (you too SS). That's not a gender thing, that is a human being thing, part of what makes us healthy and happy.


    I never said women don't need exercise. But they don't need to play sports or lift weights (and by sports I'm refering to masculine ones like basketball and baseball, if a girl wants to skate or something like that then there's no real harm in it, as long as she doesn't turn it into a career). I know lots of women who just walk or jog for their exercise, nothing else. They're in healty shape.

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    It helps her have more energy for her daily duties. Most of us would be better wives and mothers in many ways for exercising. It doesn't take away from the traditional role at all.


    Exercising is good for you health, but it does not in any way make you a better wife or mother. Women make good wives and mothers by good morals.

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    « Reply #12 on: October 11, 2011, 08:57:47 PM »
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  • What kind of physical activities could a woman do that is feminine, fun, and physically active? What kind of things can a girl do just for fun, and for no utilitary purpose? What did women use to do for fun?

    In regards to being a responsible man, would it be interesting to learn, after six years of accumulating all the wisdom you could, that you had it right all alon

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    « Reply #13 on: October 11, 2011, 09:06:05 PM »
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    I agree with you.  I also think boys sports is way overdone.


    Interesting you mention this, I've been thinking about sports in general for some time now. I've been wondering just how much they support the modern world and its thinking.

    Here's my take. Sports are fine for entertainment purposes and are even ok to watch or attend (as long as you don't attend on Sunday). However, I think they also have their disadvantages. The main problem I have with professional sports is the greed from money. All you ever hear about is money, money, money. "I want this, I want that". These players make millions of dollars per year. And what do they do with it? Use it to buy big mansions and fancy cars, nothing but materialistic junk. How about giving that money to the poor? Or donating it to a good charity? And the money they make is never enough. A few years ago when I was still a Novus Ordite and basically obsessed with sports, I remember some baseball player being offered $45 million and saying to the team "Nope, I want what I'm worth. Give me $47 million". Insane! Sports players can be alot like Hollywierd starts, they let their fame and fortune go to their head.

    The next big problem I have is them playing on Sunday. As we all know, Sunday is the day that we are supposed to honor God. We shouldn't be spending Sunday playing sports, that's blasphemous. And some sports will even play on Christmas Day and Good Friday. Playing on Christ's Birthday, and the day of His Death? What a slap in the face.

    Oh, and don't get me started on the trashy cheerleaders. They are immodest, immoral, slutty, and suggestive and I think they ruin any fun and wholesomeness that sports can bring.

    So in all, it's not sinful to follow sports. But sports do have some very materialistic and immoral aspects to them, thus why I would definitely discourage anyone making a career out of them.

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    « Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 09:08:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: Lybus
    What kind of physical activities could a woman do that is feminine, fun, and physically active? What kind of things can a girl do just for fun, and for no utilitary purpose? What did women use to do for fun?


    I don't know because I'm not a girl, but I don't see how exercising would be a good way for girls to have fun.

     

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