Author Topic: Women being brainwashed against marriage, kids (Read 3684 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** October 24, 2007, 09:17:20 AM »

I take great pleasure in doing my part to throw a HUGE MONKEY WRENCH into their plans.

They won't get my kids without killing me first.

Not only that, as long as I'm alive I'm going to educate as many people as possible as to what they're doing. By word and example, I'm going to expose their "new world" for the farce it is.

Matthew

gilbertgea · « **Reply #2 on:** October 24, 2007, 09:53:01 AM »

God bless you, but I like your spunk.

We can overcome the moral decay of Western Christian society, but it will take generations to do so. The real question is, do we possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far as is needed in order to preserve our culture?

Mousey · « **Reply #3 on:** January 14, 2008, 10:34:18 AM »

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The title of this article is offensive to the dignity of women. It's unnecessary. Real Catholic men seek to protect the dignity of ALL women if only for being creatures of God, even those women who don't act like women and work to destroy their own dignity and the dignity of others.

Your article and comments fail to point something out that is very obvious to most people:

There are more women in their 30s and 40s unmarried because there are also less men who act like real men. If a man does not seek to protect the dignity of a woman, what choices for marriage does she have?

When I was in my 20s, I was not a feminist. If I had been, it would have been much easier to have married a "Catholic" man, but I had not met a single virtuous man. The kind that I met were always compromising on their faith. Those that portended to be truly "Christian" were actually impatient, lacking virtue, and desired a "girlfriend" immediately after a courtship of a dinner or two. "Girlfriend" meant that they had liberties of immodest acts (including passionate kissing). If you were old-fashioned, these 'men' who you thought were your friends ended up quickly despising you for your virtue, and would then gossip about you. This I found quite unattractive. Conversely, I was often told off for keeping to my faith (and this was before I even became a so-called "trad"). I was accused of having "pre-Vatican II" morals, even before I knew what Vatican II was. I was many times accused of being "prudish". Boys ("men") would often tell me that they were surprised that I was a girl who was "feminine". I didn't really understand this either at the time, but today I do.

When I turned 30 and met more pious Catholics, it was basicaly the same thing, although, by this time I was much less interested in meeting someone. I joined a Catholic group and much to my surprise, since most of these men believed all the Church taught, yet they lacked virtues of temperance and modesty of actions (and did not keep from even creating for themselves recreations which entailed unnecessary near occasions of sin (i.e., co-ed camping, complete with immoderate alchohol consumption, and sacriledge --- the mass was 'celebrated' on the camp grounds). Again, I became despised, mostly among those I considered as friends, as being "too good for them", especially when I started attending the "old rite".

These things I share with you cost me much pain, since these were my brothers in Christ, who I took to my heart with the purist of intention, and desired for them a crown of glory in Heaven. It doesn't bother me that they gossiped about me for my sake, but for their own sake. It hurts that they partake in the Body of Christ while they despise the pious, and do things that put their soulsand the souls of others in grave perils. On the other hand, they do love the Church, but the Blessed Mother (on her feast days) has warned them time and time again, and they don't see it. I one time pointed it out to one of them, and they ignored the warning --- only to then experience what it means to have been removed from being under the Mantle of Mary.

Men are just as equally to blame for the disorders in today's society. Does a man who hangs out at the bars, dance clubs, etc. really expect to find a good woman? And if one such woman ignorantly/naively came to one of these places to find a good man, do you think she would be respected? And if so, to what degree? Before my conversion/consecration to Mary, I would go to these places to socialize and maybe meet a future spouse, and let me tell you, a chaste woman is hated by such men when they realize that her honor is for Christ and not for them to destroy. These are not men who want to be like St. Joseph, but rather effeminized men who seek first, if not only, to please themselves.

sɛҳuąƖ attraction is a function of fertility. After age 35, it is a steep and slippery slope for most, no matter what the media says. Women "of a certain age" have a harder time finding mates. "Independent" women are liable to be alone for more than half their lives.

A just woman is a terrible afront to the conscience of most men.

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** January 14, 2008, 10:43:21 AM »

I know the article only shines light on one aspect of the modern world's problems.

The modern world has done massive damage to manhood as well -- but this article covers its damage to womanhood.

The title may be a bit vulgar, but I just posted the article as it was.

In case you didn't know, Henry Makow, PhD is a Jєω, but he is 100% right when he talks about Feminism, the aims of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr on the family, etc. That's his area of expertise. He isn't a Catholic, and that hampers his view of things in other areas.

Incidentally, I only post his articles when he's talking within his area of expertise. Other articles are filled with errors (big or small) so I don't find those worthy of posting.

Matthew

erin is nice · « **Reply #5 on:** January 14, 2008, 10:55:22 AM »

Quote from: ChantCd

I take great pleasure in doing my part to throw a HUGE MONKEY WRENCH into their plans.

They won't get my kids without killing me first.

And when your kids grow up, they will make their own decisions. There are no guarantees. A friend of mine is from a traditional family of 7- only going to the TLM, homeschooled, no tv, the whole 9 yards. He's the only one left practicing.
Another friend of mine from a family of 5, same as above, 2 left practicing.

Mousey · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2008, 11:24:08 AM »

Quote from: erin is nice

Quote from: ChantCd
I take great pleasure in doing my part to throw a HUGE MONKEY WRENCH into their plans.

They won't get my kids without killing me first.

And when your kids grow up, they will make their own decisions. There are no guarantees. A friend of mine is from a traditional family of 7- only going to the TLM, homeschooled, no tv, the whole 9 yards. He's the only one left practicing.
Another friend of mine from a family of 5, same as above, 2 left practicing.

I firmly believe that the reason these children fall away as adults is because their traditional parents were only externally traditional.

A Catholic must be aware of the evils of the spirit of the world, but never place is focus on them. His primary war should be waged on himself. The more he strives against his faults, and towards virtue, the more the loving Lord will bless him with supernatural graces. Among these graces will be signal graces, and his family will then be witnesses to the Power of Christ. Miracles of prayer will be a frequent occurence, and the children will grow up thirsting first for Christ, and not merely hating the world. They will not equate going to Confession and Mass with chores necessary to please their parents, but they will equate the Sacraments of the Church as a royal inheritence. They will see Christ on the Cross as a story of the greatest love affair which they will seek to experience.

JoanScholastica · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2008, 05:40:01 PM »

JoanScholastica · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2008, 05:45:02 PM »

John Steven · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2008, 06:01:52 PM »

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2008, 11:21:27 PM »

The mind can be infected so easily with ideas that if it were not for the founding of the Catholic Church by our Lord Jesus Christ, insanity would reign everywhere. The minds of both men and women have been infected with liberalism in society, and each must gain back their sanity in order to regain their roles and act according to their proper natures, which God Himself gave them.

Adesto · « **Reply #11 on:** January 16, 2008, 03:25:28 AM »

JoanScholastica · « **Reply #12 on:** January 16, 2008, 10:42:07 PM »

Telesphorus · « **Reply #13 on:** September 18, 2011, 09:42:55 PM »

Effect of soap operas in Brazil:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/5106647/Brazils-racy-telenovelas-inspire-drop-in-birth-rate-rise-in-divorce.html

I was just talking to a Libyan woman today, and she was emphasizing to me how important it was to her to love and be with just one man in her life. The women who haven't been subjected to the culture where that sort of media has become pervasive still believe in love and marriage. They may still have a lot of bad ideas about career and the number of children they want, but they believe in monogamy.

In the countryside around here all one hears about are men being treated horribly by the depraved women they marry. Driving down the road you will see a tent a ways to the side - when the situation investigation one finds that a man was kicked out of the house and threatened with death by the wife's family. These are very close to here. You have two men threatened with death by the wife's druggie families over custody disputes. That's American country life.

heir wives and wive's familiesThe family is literally dissolving here.

Daegus · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:01:44 PM »

Quote from: Mousey

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The title of this article is offensive to the dignity of women. It's unnecessary. Real Catholic men seek to protect the dignity of ALL women if only for being creatures of God, even those women who don't act like women and work to destroy their own dignity and the dignity of others.

Your article and comments fail to point something out that is very obvious to most people:

There are more women in their 30s and 40s unmarried because there are also less men who act like real men. If a man does not seek to protect the dignity of a woman, what choices for marriage does she have?

When I was in my 20s, I was not a feminist. If I had been, it would have been much easier to have married a "Catholic" man, but I had not met a single virtuous man. The kind that I met were always compromising on their faith. Those that portended to be truly "Christian" were actually impatient, lacking virtue, and desired a "girlfriend" immediately after a courtship of a dinner or two. "Girlfriend" meant that they had liberties of immodest acts (including passionate kissing). If you were old-fashioned, these 'men' who you thought were your friends ended up quickly despising you for your virtue, and would then gossip about you. This I found quite unattractive. Conversely, I was often told off for keeping to my faith (and this was before I even became a so-called "trad"). I was accused of having "pre-Vatican II" morals, even before I knew what Vatican II was. I was many times accused of being "prudish". Boys ("men") would often tell me that they were surprised that I was a girl who was "feminine". I didn't really understand this either at the time, but today I do.

When I turned 30 and met more pious Catholics, it was basicaly the same thing, although, by this time I was much less interested in meeting someone. I joined a Catholic group and much to my surprise, since most of these men believed all the Church taught, yet they lacked virtues of temperance and modesty of actions (and did not keep from even creating for themselves recreations which entailed unnecessary near occasions of sin (i.e., co-ed camping, complete with immoderate alchohol consumption, and sacriledge --- the mass was 'celebrated' on the camp grounds). Again, I became despised, mostly among those I considered as friends, as being "too good for them", especially when I started attending the "old rite".

These things I share with you cost me much pain, since these were my brothers in Christ, who I took to my heart with the purist of intention, and desired for them a crown of glory in Heaven. It doesn't bother me that they gossiped about me for my sake, but for their own sake. It hurts that they partake in the Body of Christ while they despise the pious, and do things that put their soulsand the souls of others in grave perils. On the other hand, they do love the Church, but the Blessed Mother (on her feast days) has warned them time and time again, and they don't see it. I one time pointed it out to one of them, and they ignored the warning --- only to then experience what it means to have been removed from being under the Mantle of Mary.

Men are just as equally to blame for the disorders in today's society. Does a man who hangs out at the bars, dance clubs, etc. really expect to find a good woman? And if one such woman ignorantly/naively came to one of these places to find a good man, do you think she would be respected? And if so, to what degree? Before my conversion/consecration to Mary, I would go to these places to socialize and maybe meet a future spouse, and let me tell you, a chaste woman is hated by such men when they realize that her honor is for Christ and not for them to destroy. These are not men who want to be like St. Joseph, but rather effeminized men who seek first, if not only, to please themselves.

sɛҳuąƖ attraction is a function of fertility. After age 35, it is a steep and slippery slope for most, no matter what the media says. Women "of a certain age" have a harder time finding mates. "Independent" women are liable to be alone for more than half their lives.

A just woman is a terrible afront to the conscience of most men.

Absolute rubbish. That's what this post is. A bunch of claptrap from a false traditionalist feminist (and notice how she brought up that she *was* a feminist in her 20s for no apparent reason) harpy who sees nothing better to do than condescend and take stabs at men (especially Catholic men evidenced by her manifestly demonic pride). The air of that post is an air of haughty superiority under a very thin veil of false traditionalism. The author of that post was just BSing by pretending to criticize the virtue of trad men (and who is this pretentious woman to be declaring who is of virtue and who isn't?) when it's quite clear that there are ulterior motives.

She's no different than the children of perdition that roam FE that seek the destruction of souls.