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Offline Telesphorus

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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2012, 02:41:44 PM »
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  • Jane Eyre actually has a religious dimension.

    There is the matter of Mrs. Reid's daughter who decides to join the convent.

    Then there is the man who plans to become a missionary to India, who wants to marry her.

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    « Reply #31 on: June 02, 2012, 09:40:46 AM »
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  • I had not remembered that.  I've only read that book once and it was years ago....other memories of other stories have interfered in the meantime.  I'll have to read it again, thank you.  


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    « Reply #32 on: June 02, 2012, 05:21:10 PM »
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    Jane Eyre actually has a religious dimension.

    There is the matter of Mrs. Reid's daughter who decides to join the convent.

    Then there is the man who plans to become a missionary to India, who wants to marry her.


    From the way she describes it and from what i remember, it sounds like religion is more of a "setting," than anything else.  Not really much more important to the story, then the fact that they are english and in england.  

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    « Reply #33 on: June 02, 2012, 05:25:45 PM »
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    From the way she describes it and from what i remember, it sounds like religion is more of a "setting," than anything else.  Not really much more important to the story, then the fact that they are english and in england.  


    No, there's definite significance in those stories.  Although I think there's as much criticism of "religious excess" as there is recognition of it.

    However, Jane does refuse to become a mistress, and Rochester is punished for his transgression.  

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    « Reply #34 on: June 02, 2012, 05:27:07 PM »
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  • Check out the latest romance novel rage! "50 Shades of Gray"

    They are going even deeper in the gutter. And this book is a best-seller. Movie rights went for millions.

    WARNING: Mature Themes

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/books/fifty-shades-of-grey-s-and-m-cinderella.html


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    « Reply #35 on: June 02, 2012, 05:30:05 PM »
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    From the way she describes it and from what i remember, it sounds like religion is more of a "setting," than anything else.  Not really much more important to the story, then the fact that they are english and in england.  


    No, there's definite significance in those stories.  Although I think there's as much criticism of "religious excess" as there is recognition of it.

    However, Jane does refuse to become a mistress, and Rochester is punished for his transgression.  


    So, what do you think are the lessons about marriage and choosing a spouse in it?  

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    « Reply #36 on: June 02, 2012, 05:34:35 PM »
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    So, what do you think are the lessons about marriage and choosing a spouse in it?  


    Obviously it suggests it's not wise to marry to please a parent at 19 for money, especially if you're a man.

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    « Reply #37 on: June 02, 2012, 05:37:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: stevusmagnus
    Check out the latest romance novel rage! "50 Shades of Gray"

    They are going even deeper in the gutter. And this book is a best-seller. Movie rights went for millions.

    WARNING: Mature Themes

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/books/fifty-shades-of-grey-s-and-m-cinderella.html


    Yeah stevus, the culture is filthy, but we can't have girls saying hello to a devout man after church if the priest and father don't want it.


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    « Reply #38 on: June 02, 2012, 06:37:14 PM »
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    Quote from: stevusmagnus
    Check out the latest romance novel rage! "50 Shades of Gray"

    They are going even deeper in the gutter. And this book is a best-seller. Movie rights went for millions.

    WARNING: Mature Themes

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/books/fifty-shades-of-grey-s-and-m-cinderella.html


    Yeah stevus, the culture is filthy, but we can't have girls saying hello to a devout man after church if the priest and father don't want it.
    don't start Tele

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    « Reply #39 on: June 02, 2012, 09:11:40 PM »
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  • marry for love, marry for money, i guess there's a lot of different reasons.  I would marry for things like that too, but i think the first priority should be religion and to a lesser degree ethnicity.  Even more important than things like money and love though, I would think would be a set of common priorities.  

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    « Reply #40 on: June 02, 2012, 09:13:25 PM »
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  • I think respect would be what I was looking for, in the realm of where I'd think our modern culture would put "love."  



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    « Reply #41 on: June 02, 2012, 09:27:23 PM »
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    marry for love


    What motivates people to marry?


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    « Reply #42 on: June 02, 2012, 09:29:33 PM »
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    don't start Tele


    I'm never going to stop exposing dirty dishonest people and sick pharisaic hypocrisy.

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    « Reply #43 on: June 03, 2012, 11:09:21 AM »
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    don't start Tele


    I'm never going to stop exposing dirty dishonest people and sick pharisaic hypocrisy.


    ....or being bitter and making every thread that mentions women about your own personal problems and hang-ups.

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    « Reply #44 on: June 03, 2012, 12:55:07 PM »
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    don't start Tele


    I'm never going to stop exposing dirty dishonest people and sick pharisaic hypocrisy.


    ....or being bitter and making every thread that mentions women about your own personal problems and hang-ups.


    João, the desire of people like yourself and egoveritas to interject has nothing to do with any problems I have.

    Rather it has to do with attachment to a culture that supports lies and hypocrisy in women.  If you still post on fisheaters, that's exactly what you support.  A disgusting cultural marxist parody of Catholic traditionalism.

    The culture is in the gutter but it's more important for scuмmy people to treat me as a freak for having liked a young woman (who gave me ample encouragement) and having been kicked out of church for simply wanting a chance to talk to her.