I completely agree with you, Trad Guy, that as Catholics we therefore must be anti-Marxist, but that doesn't mean that's about all we talk about. It's good that they're anti-Obama at least, so there's a starting point. Anything else you can agree on? How about talk of care of the car for your grandfather, flowers or something that your grandmother likes? There must be something pleasant that binds you. Start thinking. Just for a day.