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Offline primo0196

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« on: November 23, 2012, 08:11:47 AM »
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  • Hello fellow catholics :-) im having a serious issue in regards to staying close with my sister and still remaining a true follower of the lord. my sister happens to be a lesbian and recently she decided to get engaged and is planning on getting "married". the problem is that she wants me to not only support her at this event but also "walk" her down the isle. as a true and devout catholic, i told my mother that i cannot be there to support my sister in something that i dont believe is right and a mockery of what a marriage really is. i do want to support my sister because i do love her very much but i do not want to support something i feel is morally wrong and could offend god. i guess my ?  is it still okay to go and support her or should i stay true to my belief and decline the invitation, and possibly ruin if not sever all ties with my sister. any and all help would be much appreciated

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    « Reply #1 on: November 23, 2012, 09:13:24 AM »
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    Hello fellow catholics :-) im having a serious issue in regards to staying close with my sister and still remaining a true follower of the lord. my sister happens to be a lesbian and recently she decided to get engaged and is planning on getting "married". the problem is that she wants me to not only support her at this event but also "walk" her down the isle. as a true and devout catholic, i told my mother that i cannot be there to support my sister in something that i dont believe is right and a mockery of what a marriage really is. i do want to support my sister because i do love her very much but i do not want to support something i feel is morally wrong and could offend god. i guess my ?  is it still okay to go and support her or should i stay true to my belief and decline the invitation, and possibly ruin if not sever all ties with my sister. any and all help would be much appreciated


    "For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. " Mt 10:35

    "He that loveth father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me." Mt 10:37

    There is no way a Catholic can take any part in this either by assisting or even being present. Your presence would imply consent.

    Sorry.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 23, 2012, 10:02:20 AM »
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    Hello fellow catholics :-) im having a serious issue in regards to staying close with my sister and still remaining a true follower of the lord. my sister happens to be a lesbian and recently she decided to get engaged and is planning on getting "married". the problem is that she wants me to not only support her at this event but also "walk" her down the isle. as a true and devout catholic, i told my mother that i cannot be there to support my sister in something that i dont believe is right and a mockery of what a marriage really is. i do want to support my sister because i do love her very much but i do not want to support something i feel is morally wrong and could offend god. i guess my ?  is it still okay to go and support her or should i stay true to my belief and decline the invitation, and possibly ruin if not sever all ties with my sister. any and all help would be much appreciated


    Talk to your priest, it is the safest course of action.

    Marsha

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    « Reply #3 on: November 23, 2012, 10:21:33 AM »
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  • Stay away from the whole situation.  It is a sign to your sister that she is up to satan's work.  Keep her in prayer.  No congratulation cards, no gifts and above all even stay away from their house, and you don't invite them into yours.  It is a sign to them that you are slowly accepting them if you do have them in your home.  Don't go to any of their invites either.  You honestly can not say that you would enjoy their company.  Hold Fast to your Faith.  

    My friend had to say no to her only son when he married a jew in the synagogue.  She fought within herself and her husband.  When the day came she was not there.  She is happy for keeping the Faith and her word that she would not attend.

    My cousin has a grand daughter that has a lesbian and when my cousin's son invites her over to his home and my cousin is there she picks up and leaves.  Her son scolds his mother(my cousin).  How very sad!

    Whatever you do, stay as far away as you can.  If you are of the New Order (not church) don't listen to anyone who says that you can not be judgmental.  Christ told us that "you would know them by their fruits".  You judge by the outward signs and you have plenty of Red Flags.

    How else will your sister learn.  So show her signs that you are praying for her conversion from satan and his works.

    You will not regret your decision to stand for truth as Our Lady stood by the Cross knowing that His Precious Blood would be in all the sacraments to save man.  That is Love.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 23, 2012, 10:28:11 AM »
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  • If you attend, it will be a sin to you.  So, if your family scolds you, so what!  It is a cross that you kiss and bear!  You may be the minority but it does not mean that the majority is right.  


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    « Reply #5 on: November 23, 2012, 12:03:04 PM »
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  • I would write her a note, that you love her and are not rejecting her but you are unable to support her at this ceremony and will not be attending.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 23, 2012, 12:42:26 PM »
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  • Do not condone that lesbian lifestyle. Stay away from her until she has reformed her ways and decided to become a "straight" female again. Unfortunately in these evil days we must put morality above our family for the sake of the nation.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 23, 2012, 02:18:01 PM »
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  • thx. this is how i feel inside and i wouldnt want to offend god or christ by full well knowingly going against my faith. at the same time i think im going to go speak with my priest so i can get some religious counseling on the matter. i may not attend this event but i still love my sister and i djont want to write her off yet.


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    « Reply #8 on: November 23, 2012, 02:33:03 PM »
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  • Is your priest New Order?  If he is he will say, no problem.  And you know what a traditional priest who holds up the commandments of God would say!  You know in your heart what you need to do, do nothing.  

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    « Reply #9 on: November 23, 2012, 02:53:22 PM »
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  • Welcome, primo0196.

    It would be mortally sinful to attend such an event. You should worry more about offending Christ than offending your sister. You cannot possibly attend the "wedding" without sinning.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 23, 2012, 04:38:44 PM »
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    Is your priest New Order?  If he is he will say, no problem.  And you know what a traditional priest who holds up the commandments of God would say!  You know in your heart what you need to do, do nothing.  


    Not to derail but this is a very broad brush stroke. I have known several "novus ordo" priests who would offer the same advice as offered in this thread.


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    « Reply #11 on: November 23, 2012, 05:47:05 PM »
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  • We shall see!

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    « Reply #12 on: November 23, 2012, 06:30:45 PM »
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    I have known several "novus ordo" priests who would offer the same advice as offered in this thread.


    That's a bit like gambling. Could go either way. Nup! It's not worth it.

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    « Reply #13 on: November 23, 2012, 06:31:53 PM »
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    Is your priest New Order?  If he is he will say, no problem.  And you know what a traditional priest who holds up the commandments of God would say!  You know in your heart what you need to do, do nothing.  


    Not to derail but this is a very broad brush stroke. I have known several "novus ordo" priests who would offer the same advice as offered in this thread.


    For the sake of those still lingering in the novus ordo and still actually going to confession, I sure hope you're right.

    Not trying to downplay the lesbian aspect which is an abomination, but would the same advice apply if you had a brother or sister getting married by a protestant minister?



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    « Reply #14 on: November 23, 2012, 06:35:43 PM »
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    thx. this is how i feel inside and i wouldnt want to offend god or christ by full well knowingly going against my faith. at the same time i think im going to go speak with my priest so i can get some religious counseling on the matter. i may not attend this event but i still love my sister and i djont want to write her off yet.


    You're in a tough spot.  Be as gentle as you can but do explain to her that you will not be participating and you do not approve.  You can even say, "These are the edicts of my Catholic Faith."  Gently explain to her exactly what mortal sin is and also tell her that the Catholic faith has been under attack from numerous enemies for 2000 years.  

    Believe it of not, a lot of youngsters today think that the Church had a free ride with nothing but peace and joy (spiritually we did!) and that they are the first generation to have the mental wherewithal to question Church doctrines.  Actually, this generation is the 874th in line to think these things.

    However, you are in a tough spot.  I hope you stand firm and refuse to participate.  Still seek the advice of a priest but you know you can't stand by and give the impression to others that a lesbian marriage is in any way acceptable.

     

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