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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: The Great Chastisement
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2026, 04:36:45 AM »
Quote from: Godefroy on March 04, 2026, 03:52:29 AM
The issues "BoD, BoB, EENS, sspx, resistance, sedes, una cuŠ¼, conciliar church"  are difficult to adress and divide all traditional catholics, so having no authority I just up unless they ask my opinion. I don't even discuss them with most parishioners or the priest, but surprisingly many adult converts already know this issues and are less interested in compromise then the cradle catholics.
What about the NO/indult? I feel the need to tell people they need to avoid them and get valid sacraments.

Quote from: Telling on March 04, 2026, 04:29:16 AM
There are professedly 1 BN+ Catholics in the world. If even 10% or 100 MN took their faith seriously, and the duty flowing from their baptism and confirmation to evangelize, the world can be reached for King Jesus and Queen Mary in no time. About 100 people each per Catholic Evangelist would have to be reached, just about 25 homes or families should do it, assuming 4 persons per Family. It's never been easier to finish the Great commission. It's sad that some Catholics are not doing it, but God bless the good Catholics who are.
I don't believe the new rites are valid, so most of these Catholics aren't confirmed, and there are plenty with invalid baptisms. And I think the NO mass is an abomination.
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Offline Telling

Re: The Great Chastisement
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2026, 04:56:09 AM »
Quote from: AnthonyPadua on March 04, 2026, 04:36:45 AM
What about the NO/indult? I feel the need to tell people they need to avoid them and get valid sacraments.
I don't believe the new rites are valid, so most of these Catholics aren't confirmed, and there are plenty with invalid baptisms. And I think the NO mass is an abomination.
That's a heretical opinion. No wonder you don't evangelize. Your sect is dying and deserves to. How many are there in your ultra-rigorist sede sect? 50,000? Maybe even less. The future belongs to real Catholics, including Millions who are evangelizing as we speak, and the Church is growing. 
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: The Great Chastisement
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2026, 04:56:26 AM »
Quote from: alancarmine on March 04, 2026, 12:41:59 AM
It's getting bad, my friends. I don't know how much longer it's going to be before the great chastisement....
Brace yourself, as I was told many times as a young man, "it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better." 

Not long after the changes began, I would say late 60s - early 70s, the pioneering trads of the day, like you thought for certain the world was about to end at any time because of the atrocities happening back then within the Church and to society. 

Well, 60 years later and I can say they were 100% right, and that it's still "going to get a lot worse before it gets better." 

Pray 15 decades every day. 
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Offline Godefroy

Re: The Great Chastisement
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2026, 04:57:44 AM »
Quote from: AnthonyPadua on March 04, 2026, 04:36:45 AM
What about the NO/indult? I feel the need to tell people they need to avoid them and get valid sacraments.
I don't believe the new rites are valid, so most of these Catholics aren't confirmed, and there are plenty with invalid baptisms. And I think the NO mass is an abomination.
I don't discuss this unless the conversation moves in that direction. In which case we guide them to the SSPX mass in the area, and our priest even will even catechise them. 

However a novos ordo reciting some Ave Marias or even a rosary is a great start and I don't have any authority to pronounce where they have to go to mass. As a mentioned, intelligent adult converts, especially men, will slowly move towards a traditional mass somewhere. 
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: The Great Chastisement
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2026, 04:59:45 AM »
Quote from: Telling on March 04, 2026, 04:56:09 AM
That's a heretical opinion. No wonder you don't evangelize. Your sect is dying and deserves to. How many are there in your ultra-rigorist sede sect? 50,000? Maybe even less. The future belongs to real Catholics, including Millions who are evangelizing as we speak, and the Church is growing. 
Just don't defeat the purpose by sending all your converts into the conciliar religion.

Fr. Wathen as regards the Indult:
"People should know that attending the Indult Mass represents a very serious compromise of their faith. Before a bishop allows the Traditional Latin Mass in one of his Novus Ordo churches, according to papal direction, he exacts this commitment: Those to whom the Mass is made available must give a verbal acceptance to the Second Vatican Council and to the new mass. Whether they know it or not, everyone who attends the Indult Mass makes the same implicit commitment. In the days of the Rome persecutions, a Catholic could escape martyrdom if he would burn the tiniest pinch of incense before one of the countless Roman gods. The commitment which the pope and bishops require is that pinch of incense."
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