Author Topic: St. Marys KS -- Catholic Disneyland or good thing? (Read 26905 times)

SJB · « **Reply #120 on:** November 29, 2010, 03:58:14 PM »

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You think this has something to do with the Fr. Jenkins SSPV, SJB and it does not. As soon as Liz starts that other thread that is where it will be talked about. It has to do with some people having there feelings hurt by remarks on White Trash. And, then of course somehow it changed from that to Two Women who can no teach Latin and Fr. Jenkins SSPV intrigue.
Feelings were hurt by the poor persons remark only.
Most of us here have no idea about Fr. Jenkins or the SSPV other than these comments that come up throughout the forum, or how that ties in with this St. Mary's in Kansas.

It has to do with the level of control or attempted control and unsuccessful trad schools being subsidized by the "parish" while being a major cause of real scandal in same parish.

SJB · « **Reply #121 on:** November 29, 2010, 04:00:35 PM »

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People here can't hide what they truly are forever. And I know what they are trying to do.

This seems somewhat cryptic to me.

Dawn · « **Reply #122 on:** November 29, 2010, 04:10:29 PM »

I know this person. It is not cryptic. No more so than the constant little comments about Fr. Jenkins and SSPV. Perhaps you could start that thread Liz promised. Then people would know for certain what is supposed to have taken place. I find it odd that the enemies of the Sede world would not blow it sky high if there was some sort of abuse or corruption taking place over there. Of course if all we get are veiled comments then other families are put at risk. Atleast Eamon came right out and said what was happening. He did not de-rail every thread with innuendo.

SJB · « **Reply #123 on:** November 29, 2010, 04:59:12 PM »

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I know this person. It is not cryptic. No more so than the constant little comments about Fr. Jenkins and SSPV. Perhaps you could start that thread Liz promised. Then people would know for certain what is supposed to have taken place. I find it odd that the enemies of the Sede world would not blow it sky high if there was some sort of abuse or corruption taking place over there. Of course if all we get are veiled comments then other families are put at risk. Atleast Eamon came right out and said what was happening. He did not de-rail every thread with innuendo.

It has to do with the level of control or attempted control and unsuccessful trad schools being subsidized by the "parish" while being a major cause of real scandal in same parish.

Dawn · « **Reply #124 on:** November 29, 2010, 05:49:35 PM »

Well then I guess it is best in most all cases to home school. I find it strange when stay at home Traditional Catholic mothers do not teach at home. What on earth do they do all day long? It has been a struggle but I am so very glad that I teach my children. That is after all the mother's job.

SJB · « **Reply #125 on:** November 29, 2010, 06:36:42 PM »

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Well then I guess it is best in most all cases to home school. I find it strange when stay at home Traditional Catholic mothers do not teach at home. What on earth do they do all day long? It has been a struggle but I am so very glad that I teach my children. That is after all the mother's job.

It's the parent's job to educate their children. That may be homeschool or something else. Not every mother and father is able to or capable of homeschool.

Dawn · « **Reply #126 on:** November 29, 2010, 07:37:11 PM »

I meant parents. Though in most instances it is the mother who is home all day.

SJB · « **Reply #127 on:** November 29, 2010, 08:03:50 PM »

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I meant parents. Though in most instances it is the mother who is home all day.

I know.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #128 on:** November 29, 2010, 08:16:11 PM »

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Alexandria,

You appear to be possess the attributes ..... : hostile, abusive, bullying , egocentric, underhanded .

Thank you.

Dear Alexandria The Bully,

Did you have to reply to Rome in such a hostile, abusive, egocentric, underhanded manner?

Elizabeth · « **Reply #129 on:** November 29, 2010, 10:31:49 PM »

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I will tell you that Alexandria was upset by one of the Many Many twists this thread has taken when Elizabeth mention something about White Trash. Now, earlier it was mentioned that families move to a certain area to be by a priest/school though they are financially strapped. So, when Elizabeth threw in "White Trash" it almost seemed that she was talking about those poor families.

Except that both you and Alexandria know I was not.

It would only "almost seem" this way to someone with a very big chip

on her shoulder who was spoiling for a confrontation.

To anyone out there not feigning scandal at the term 'white trash' it is

the only shorthand I could think of to describe someone like the

characters in To Kill a Mockingbird. Specifically, Mayella Violet

Ewell and her father, Bob Ewell.

Dawn · « **Reply #130 on:** November 30, 2010, 05:47:48 AM »

Elizabeth, you did upset people more than one. That is why I commented. I had not even been reading this thread as it is nothing I would be interested in. Period.
Those women had never been mentioned in this thread prior to me pointing out that the term White Trash was offensive. If I am not mistaken those two women do not have anything to do with St. Mary's in Kansas.
Perhaps you should just apologize to the people on this board who were offended by your use of such a mean term.
Me personally? I am probably the toughest skinned person you will ever meet.

Belloc · « **Reply #131 on:** November 30, 2010, 07:14:33 AM »

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Quote from: Dawn
Well then I guess it is best in most all cases to home school. I find it strange when stay at home Traditional Catholic mothers do not teach at home. What on earth do they do all day long? It has been a struggle but I am so very glad that I teach my children. That is after all the mother's job.

It's the parent's job to educate their children. That may be homeschool or something else. Not every mother and father is able to or capable of homeschool.

good reason for real Catholic schools then!

though parents should and required to play a role in education-of the Fide, math, etc..my mother spent hours helping me after school and before with things I had trouble with,esp math....I was advanced in reading,etc......partially due to intellectual stimulation by my parents.....

innocenza · « **Reply #132 on:** November 30, 2010, 07:17:05 AM »

FWIW:

It was not my impression that Elizabeth had any intention to put down poor people.

'White trash' is an expression that has been around for a long time, and has been used by a variety of people in multiple contexts.

It can sometimes be meant to suggest that there are people of low character and habits who are not necessarily members of any historically and socially disadvantaged ethnic minority group. Or it can be turned to an opposite use as well.

Example: Once when I lived in NYC, some Mexicans made fun of me for picking up after my dog, so I called them 'wetbacks'. They then labelled me 'white trash'.

In my opinion, people ought not to play into the hands of the power elites, the ADL, who want to make a crime out of 'hate' and 'hate speech'. As kids we used to say, "Sticks and stones, etc. . . .", and it was pretty commonsensical, down to earth thinking.

Alexandria · « **Reply #133 on:** November 30, 2010, 11:10:32 AM »

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Elizabeth, you did upset people more than one. That is why I commented. I had not even been reading this thread as it is nothing I would be interested in. Period.
Those women had never been mentioned in this thread prior to me pointing out that the term White Trash was offensive. If I am not mistaken those two women do not have anything to do with St. Mary's in Kansas.
Perhaps you should just apologize to the people on this board who were offended by your use of such a mean term.
Me personally? I am probably the toughest skinned person you will ever meet.

Elizabeth is not one to apologize, Dawn.

SJB · « **Reply #134 on:** November 30, 2010, 11:15:57 AM »

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Elizabeth is not one to apologize, Dawn.

Hmmm. Is that only when you think she should apologize, or all the time?