They used to, so I say yes.

on headcoverings 🧵


"he (apostle paul) said not merely covered, but covered over, meaning that she be carefully wrapped up on every side. And by reducing it to an absurdity, he appeals to their shame, saying by way of severe reprimand, but if she be not covered, let her also be shorn. As if he had said, If you cast away the covering appointed by the law of God, cast away likewise that appointed by nature.

But if any say, Nay, how can this be a shame to the woman, if she mount up to the glory of the man? we might make this answer; She does not mount up but rather falls from her own proper honor. Since not to abide within our own limits and the laws ordained of God, but to go beyond, is not an addition but a diminuation. For as he that desires other men's goods and seizes what is not his own, has not gained anything more but is diminished, having lost even that which he had, (which kind of thing also happened in paradise) so likewise the woman acquires not the man's dignity, but loses even the woman's decency which she had. And not from hence only is her shame and reproach, but also on account of her covetousness.

Well then: the man he compels not to be always uncovered, but only when he prays. For every man, says he, praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. But the woman he commands to be at all times covered. Wherefore also having said, Every woman that prays or prophesies with her head unveiled, dishonors her head, he stayed not at this point only, but also proceeded to say, for it is one and the same thing as if she were shaven. But if to be shaven is always dishonorable, it is plain too that being uncovered is always a reproach. And not even was he content, but added again, saying, The woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head, because of the angels. He signifies that not at the time of prayer only but also continually, she ought to be covered"

st john chrysostom

Is anything so conducive to lust as with unseemly movements thus to expose in nakedness those parts of the body which either nature has hidden or custom has veiled, to sport with the looks, to turn the neck, to loosen the hair? Fitly was the next step an offense against God. For what modesty can there be?

st ambrose

"a certain aim of pleasing, either by more elegant dress than the necessity of so great profession demands, or by remarkable manner of binding the head, whether by bosses of hair swelling forth or by coverings so yielding, that the fine net-work below appears: unto these we must give precepts, not as yet concerning humility, but concerning chastity itself, or virgin modesty"

"Those who are of the world think how they are to please their wives, if they are men or their husbands, if they are women, [and choose their dress accordingly]; except that women, whom the Apostle orders to cover (to veil) their heads ought not to uncover their hair even if they are married"
st augustine

"Woman naturally nourishes her hair therefore she naturally ought to completely cover her head"

st thomas aquinas

Wasn't it standard for men to wear hats, too?

Quote from: Justinian 03/02/2026, 15:45:20
Because the world has gone so extreme in pretending men and women are the same and now actually pretending some men ARE women and vice versa, some traditional Catholics have gone to the other extreme (as a reaction) and become mysoginistic, puritanical, judgemental, cult like and actually not acting like Catholics at all. Acting like a breakaway Protestant sect! Without the typical Protestant friendliness 😀

This is why we see insane posts like ‘should women be properly?’ ‘Is ballet immoral?’ And this thread about women covering heads in public. So now Catholics are promoting Islamic ideas!??😳😳😳😳

Of course it is possible this is just rage bait 😆😆😆😆


I was told about this group on some random social media post a while ago and I joined out of curiosity. I saw some excellent posts by a lady called Boru amd agreed with a lot of what she said. I noticed many people attacking and arguing with her here. Now she’s gone. I don’t think I’ll stay much longer either. I appreciate your responses and think there are many good souls here like you. But I don’t think it’s helpful some of the nonsense posted. All arguments about different splinter groups annd annger ang women (from incels?!) instead of just focusing on the faith.

I don't get it.  Why are you always posting about what women should do?  Why don't you, a man, post about what men should do?

I do believe many here, including myself, post on what men should do..
Quite a bit actually.

I often say that men should wear hats and ties and well polished shoes. A tie has the added advantage of being an item of clothing that only men wear, and is therefore a strong marker of virility. Just a woman in a dress is strong public marker of femininity.