Anybody read some of the books put out by the Kolbe Center. They have some good stuff. 

There’s a DVD “How the World was made in six days”. Six parts. They go after “Bishop” Barron pretty good for being a modernist and claiming that Genesis is myth or legend. 

Yes, I've viewed their materials, and they're pretty good ... though I've been fairly critical of their hostility toward Flat Earthers.  Whether they want to accept FE or not is their business, but the fact tha they lump us into the same category as the Modernist heretics who deny the historicity and inerrancy of Sacred Scripture is both insulting and slanderous.

This.  I like a lot of their material but I think they were misinformed about the (Catholic) FE viewpoint and position and have just been attacking strawmen.  There are some what I call "flattards" out there who refuse to look at their own views with a critical eye and if you say anything at all against FE or ask how FE explains this or that they basically just call you a NASA shill and don't even try to explain anything and unfortunately this attitude gives legitimate and balanced FE'ers a bad name and Kolbe Center attacks those types instead of sitting down with the balanced types to try to get to the truth.  

Right, and on top of that, isn't the most important thing here that we too (Catholic FEs) strongly believe in and promote the inerrancy of Sacred Scripture?  On that most important point, we are "on the same side," and would like to consider it a "disagreement among friends".  Instead, in their video about how God made the earth, they indiscriminately lump us in with those who consider the Book of Genesis to be a "myth", implying that we're somehow "just as bad" as those types.

Yeah.  I honestly think it's just more of a popularity/human respect thing where they don't want to seem "too different" and lose support/donations/etc. so they beat the rag doll of Flat Earth and sum all of us under the same umbrella to get more "street cred" with people who don't even like them.  

I hope someday they can be open to the real discussions and views of a balanced FE opinion/theory.  I do know that FEers don't even all agree on what causes certain phenomenon and that could be stumbling block to an extent. 

Kolbe seem to relish challenges. Is there a flat earther to offer to challege them?

Well, Dr. Sungenis (who's been working closely with Kolbe) debated Rob Skiba some time ago.

I'm not even that concerned about their belief in the earth as a globe.  I'm objecting primarily to their slander of Flat Earth Catholics as if they were in the same category as the Modernist heretics who deny the inerrancy and historicity of Sacred Scripture, and their huge crusade against FE.

Kolbe center, from what I have gathered, are geocentric. They believe the earth is a sphere that is fixed in the center of the universe and does not move. That may be why they go after flat earthers.

Kolbe center, from what I have gathered, are geocentric. They believe the earth is a sphere that is fixed in the center of the universe and does not move. That may be why they go after flat earthers.

My understanding is that the Kolbe center is run by mostly protestants.  Sungenis fits in with the prots because he's a hardcore, pro-new-rome, indulter.

Both Prots and hardcore indulters suffer from the same philosophical error, which affects their thinking on a variety of topics (i.e. religion, politics, culture, etc).  Fundamentally (pun intended) prots believe that the "centrist" position is the best way for society to operate.  So they gravitate towards a "moderate" approach in all things.

1.  Heliocentrism is wrong; flat earth is extreme; the best approach is geocentrism.
2.  Atheism is wrong; Catholic Church is extreme; the best approach is protestantism/love-God-in-your-own-way.
3.  V2 is wrong; Traditional catholicism is extreme; the best approach is indultism/fighting-for-the-church-from-the-inside.

Each of topics (and there are many more examples) suffers from a false dichotomy.  They falsely label the extremes, to arrive at their desired "middle ground".  Their core error is to define truth based on "the most popular opinion of the day, which most people agree on", then they work backwards to falsely define the extremes, to support their "popular, centrist" solution.

In our day and age, society is so far left/sinful, that the Truth does *seem* extreme, but it's not so.

Based upon personal experiences with Hugh Owen and other Kolbe staff, I think very are well intentioned, but are also very naive at times.

Agree.  I like Hugh Owen and i've heard him speak personally.  We are all indebted to him and his work, which provides a valuable service to culture, history, and science.


In the grand scheme of things, the debate over flat earth is non-essential and I wouldn't harbor any ill feelings towards anyone who rejects it; it just doesn't matter that much in life.

I'm not sure if this is true literally, but I would definitely  agree it is  true functionally.

Many of the Kolbe Center arguments (other than specific theological ones) seem to be directly from Ken Ham's Answers in Genesis line of thinking. As a result, some of it is generally OK, while other times it lacks a more nuanced Catholic approach. The result can sound more like an aping of the Protestant creationists rather than a uniquely Catholic creation concept/model.

I'd disagree.  They rely heavily upon the Church Fathers (and Doctors) for a Catholic cretion concept/model, despite sometimes overlapping with Ham et al. in their scientific arguments (many of which just so happen to be true).