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Offline 2Vermont

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Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2024, 02:54:32 PM »
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  • Donald and Melania got "married" in an Episcopal ceremony, and Barron was baptized Episcopalian.

    She is a Catholic in name only, who probably has next to no knowledge of the Faith or what it requires.
    Honestly.  She's not even a so-called "conservative Novus Ordo Catholic".

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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #16 on: October 03, 2024, 03:17:50 PM »
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  • If she is married Episcopalian and her child was baptized Episcopalian, then she isn’t Catholic.  She is a liberal Episcopalian.

    Thanks for pointing that out, Simple Man.  


    The Catholics who partied at Mara Lago must feel foolish. 
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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #17 on: October 03, 2024, 03:28:11 PM »
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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #18 on: October 03, 2024, 04:31:47 PM »
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    Offline SimpleMan

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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #19 on: October 03, 2024, 04:34:11 PM »
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  • If she is married Episcopalian and her child was baptized Episcopalian, then she isn’t Catholic.  She is a liberal Episcopalian.

    Thanks for pointing that out, Simple Man. 


    The Catholics who partied at Mara Lago must feel foolish.

    No, she remains a Catholic.  Marrying outside the Church wouldn't cause her not to be a Catholic anymore, and as for Barron's baptism, it's hard telling what went into that decision.  Trump himself was apparently raised Presbyterian, but in the liberal Protestant denominations, there's a lot of cross-over, both formal and informal.  It's not at all uncommon, when two Protestants marry, for one simply to slide on over to the other spouse's religious practice, without any formal "conversion" process.  And in a denomination such as the Episcopalians or Methodists, I don't think anybody's going to object if a Catholic goes to communion there, they view Catholicism as just another Christian denomination (and, sadly, so do many such Catholics).

    As to whether Episcopalians would just go ahead and baptize the child of any Christians who approached them for the sacrament, regardless of denomination, I cannot say for sure, but apparently they do.  In the case of Catholics, they'd probably view such a request as a kind of validation (and Episcopalians welcome nothing more than legitimization by Catholics).


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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #20 on: October 03, 2024, 06:20:46 PM »
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  •  she really lost any of my "give her the benefit of the doubt" when she was reported to have said “Who gives a __ about Christmas?” 

    Secretly recorded tapes show Melania Trump’s ... bashing of Christmas decorations

    No. Your own link demonstrates that you took her words out of context.
    She said "who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations?"
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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #21 on: October 03, 2024, 06:35:03 PM »
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  • No. Your own link demonstrates that you took her words out of context.
    She said "who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations?"


    It’s bad enough that men use language like that, it’s even more disgusting when woman use it. With this and especially with what she said about murdering little babies, to me she is hideous despite her external appearance.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #22 on: October 03, 2024, 07:39:34 PM »
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  • It’s bad enough that men use language like that, it’s even more disgusting when woman use it. With this and especially with what she said about murdering little babies, to me she is hideous despite her external appearance.
    Agreed!


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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #23 on: October 04, 2024, 09:37:29 AM »
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  • Alas, based on her recent comments about abortion, I would have to say that no, she's no longer Catholic.  She upholds and promotes not only the liceity of abortion, but even declares it to be some kind of fundamental right of a woman.

    So, one can be a heretic on any matter of faith and morals, and the grave immorality of abortion is dogmatic in the realm of moral theology via the Ordinary Universal Magisterium.  Sometimes it's unclear whether the OUM has defined something, but abortion has always, everywhere, and by all Catholics been considered a grave sin.

    Conqeuently, Melania Trump is a manifest heretic who's no longer a member of the Catholic Church.

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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #24 on: October 04, 2024, 09:39:16 AM »
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  • No, she remains a Catholic.  Marrying outside the Church wouldn't cause her not to be a Catholic anymore, ...

    Not, but her manifest heresy regarding abortion puts her outside of actual membership in the Catholic Church (a qualification to avoid arguing with Stubborn again).

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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #25 on: October 04, 2024, 11:48:00 AM »
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  • Not, but her manifest heresy regarding abortion puts her outside of actual membership in the Catholic Church (a qualification to avoid arguing with Stubborn again).
    Yes. Like "Pope" Francis. Very sad.
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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #26 on: October 04, 2024, 11:50:44 AM »
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  • Yes. Like "Pope" Francis. Very sad.

    I'm not sure to what saying of Bergoglio you refer.  Obviously, advocating for abortion is no problem for Jorge.  He's appointed people to the "Pontifical Academy for Life [sic]" who are ardent pro-abortionists.

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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #27 on: October 04, 2024, 12:04:35 PM »
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  • Name a famous Catholic person who attends the Traditional Latin Mass outside the Conciliar Church.  Other than Mel Gibson.

    This is why most people do not even know how to be Catholic.  

    What should we do with people like this who the Conciliar Church has set up to fail in the first place? Fail by not truly finding Catholicism or being Catholic.

    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #28 on: October 04, 2024, 12:16:16 PM »
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  • Name a famous Catholic person who attends the Traditional Latin Mass outside the Conciliar Church.  Other than Mel Gibson.

    This is why most people do not even know how to be Catholic. 

    What should we do with people like this who the Conciliar Church has set up to fail in the first place? Fail by not truly finding Catholicism or being Catholic.

    Natural law is enough to tell a sane person, Catholic or not, how messed up abortion is. One can only blame so much on the conciliarists.
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    Re: Is Melania Trump Catholic?
    « Reply #29 on: October 04, 2024, 12:32:17 PM »
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  • The book comes out next Tuesday before the elections. 

    Someone decided this timing was a good idea. Wonder why.

    Quote below from: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/03/melania-trump-memoir-abortion
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    A spokesperson for the Republican nominee did not respond to a request for comment. Trump himself spoke to Fox News, while staging a rally in Saginaw, Michigan.
    “We spoke about it,” he said, when asked about his wife expressing support for abortion rights in opposition to his record and platform.
    “And I said: ‘You have to write what you believe.’ I’m not going to tell her what she should do. You have to write what you believe. She’s very beloved. People love our former first lady, I can tell you that. But I said: ‘You have to stick with your heart.’ I’ve said that to everybody, you have to go with your heart.”

    (Didn't Woody Allen say, "the heart wants what the heart wants" or something like that?)

    So the hubby and the campaign were also cool with her releasing this book publicity video just yesterday: https://x.com/MELANIATRUMP/status/1841806743216537870

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