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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: Viva Cristo Rey on October 02, 2024, 07:56:35 PM
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Christians are pro life no matter what.
Melania Trump passionately defends abortion rights in upcoming memoir
Exclusive: ‘I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life,’ former first lady writes in memoir.
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Per the Guardian
https://apple.news/A8dAdsc_DQX2Z5Gkt46pyzw
The book comes out next Tuesday before the elections.
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She’s a swine! Is she a Catholic? No Catholic can support the “right” to murder anyone, including infants. That’s heresy in the moral order. I’m sure Stubborn will defend her being a member of the Church, however.
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Sheer stupidity. They want control over their own body because they failed to control that body in the first place.
They're not pro choice....they're pro multiple choices. :facepalm:
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She’s a swine! Is she a Catholic? No Catholic can support the “right” to murder anyone, including infants.
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She is Catholic in culture, but not belief. Very common with most people.
You identify with it out of habit, maybe you show up to services on major holidays and go through the rituals, but your personal belief with it is nonexistent. That is why some places have such a discrepancy between percent that identify and percent that actually go to weekly services.
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Anything from 'The Guardian' needs to be taken with a very large grain of salt.
God Bless
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Donald and Melania got "married" in an Episcopal ceremony, and Barron was baptized Episcopalian.
She is a Catholic in name only, who probably has next to no knowledge of the Faith or what it requires.
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This article says she was pro-abortion all her life.This was taken from her new book. So even if she claimed to be a Catholic at one time , she isn't even that now.
Shame
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/02/melania-trump-memoir-defends-abortion-rights
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Could be they are pulling a "Bush" scenario when the Presidents are "pro-life" (haha) and the wives are pro-abort.
Kind of "softens" the ticket to get more female baby murderer votes.
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Sorry I repeated the info
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Could be they are pulling a "Bush" scenario when the Presidents are "pro-life" (haha) and the wives are pro-abort.
Kind of "softens" the ticket to get more female baby murderer votes.
Possibly. Or, worst case, Donald Trump himself isn't really Pro Life but just puts on a facade to make people think he is to get the conservative based voting for him. God only knows.
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Possibly. Or, worst case, Donald Trump himself isn't really Pro Life but just puts on a facade to make people think he is to get the conservative based voting for him. God only knows.
Or they are Pro-Life but realise the system is democratic and thus can only go as far as a majority can accept. Nevertheless, we should all know better and should never stop working and praying for more and never settle for such an immoral status quo, neither should we burn our bridges in regards to those helping us turn back this wicked and barbaric child sacrifice... even if the people don't go as far as they should, every step in the right direction is a good thing, nobody goes to bed a sinner and wakes up a saint.
I was watching the vice presidential debate and the irony that Tim Waltz would try to quote the scriptures about the least of these and then in the next breath be such an advocate for the wholesale slaughter of the most innocent, using totally biased and misleading arguments to call evil good and good evil. J.D. Vance was right to bring up Partial Birth Abortion in response, however, I wish he described what it entailed in some detail (born all bar the head and then sticking a pair of scissors into the back of their necks cutting the spinal cord and then crushing their skull) and the kind of evil these people stubbornly defend, only trying to cherry pick difficult cases in order to adamantly promote and protect the most barbaric and wholesale slaughter of the most innocent.
J.D. Vance next time should be ready, if they're going to cherry pick hard cases, then throw back at them partial birth, after birth (as Trump rightfully did) Kermit Gosnell and other butcherers, PP selling organs (Project Veritas) then describe the organs and 'parts' which makes it obvious these are butchered innocent human beings... all that they adamantly wish to protect and present as something good, not only good, but a fundamental right... they think they can make us balk... no, they are the ones who must squirm and balk in the details... they only win in darkness and very carefully cherry pick their 'hard cases'... so lets shine some spotlight on it and delve into some details.
God Bless
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I know it's not as bad as her being pro-abortion, but she really lost any of my "give her the benefit of the doubt" when she was reported to have said “Who gives a __ about Christmas?”
Secretly recorded tapes show Melania Trump’s ... bashing of Christmas decorations (https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/melania-trump-tapes/index.html)
(https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/us/elections/a-recording-of-melania-trump-captures-her-complaining-in-vulgar-terms-about-christmas-decorations-and-mocking-detained-migrant-c.html)A recording of Melania Trump captures her complaining in vulgar terms about Christmas decorations (https://tinyurl.com/MT-bash-Xmas)
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Beware of Susan B. Anthony group. Trump claims this org is pro-life. Marjorie in charge knows better. They can not stop abortion pill, are not against sterilization,. They might be against surgical abortion, but they are not Pro-life. SBA group campaign for Trump going door-to-door paying $16 an hour starting with age group of 16 and older. The groups leaders are in New Order, even FFSP. Going doo-to-door can be very dangerous as well.
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Donald and Melania got "married" in an Episcopal ceremony, and Barron was baptized Episcopalian.
She is a Catholic in name only, who probably has next to no knowledge of the Faith or what it requires.
Honestly. She's not even a so-called "conservative Novus Ordo Catholic".
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If she is married Episcopalian and her child was baptized Episcopalian, then she isn’t Catholic. She is a liberal Episcopalian.
Thanks for pointing that out, Simple Man.
The Catholics who partied at Mara Lago must feel foolish.
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Wikipedia:
…”Although Melanija's father was a member of Yugoslavia's communist party, which espoused a policy of [color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)]state atheism[/color] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism),[color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)][9] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump#cite_note-10)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color] he had his daughters secretly [color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)]baptized[/color] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism) as [color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)]Catholic[/color] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_Slovenia), as was common.[color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)][10] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump#cite_note-FOOTNOTEPožar201694-11)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color][color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)][11] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump#cite_note-12)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color] The family was well-off relative to most who lived in communist societies. They frequently went on vacations to other parts of Europe.[color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)][8] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump#cite_note-Ioffe-9)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color] Their apartment was decorated with brightly colored walls, which was a major departure from other apartments in the country.[color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)][8 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump#cite_note-Ioffe-9)”…….[/font][/size][/color] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump#cite_note-FOOTNOTEJordan202050-8)
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Douay-Rheims Bible (https://biblehub.com/drbc/luke/10.htm)
He that heareth you, heareth me; and he that despiseth you, despiseth me; and he that despiseth me, despiseth him that sent me.
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If she is married Episcopalian and her child was baptized Episcopalian, then she isn’t Catholic. She is a liberal Episcopalian.
Thanks for pointing that out, Simple Man.
The Catholics who partied at Mara Lago must feel foolish.
No, she remains a Catholic. Marrying outside the Church wouldn't cause her not to be a Catholic anymore, and as for Barron's baptism, it's hard telling what went into that decision. Trump himself was apparently raised Presbyterian, but in the liberal Protestant denominations, there's a lot of cross-over, both formal and informal. It's not at all uncommon, when two Protestants marry, for one simply to slide on over to the other spouse's religious practice, without any formal "conversion" process. And in a denomination such as the Episcopalians or Methodists, I don't think anybody's going to object if a Catholic goes to communion there, they view Catholicism as just another Christian denomination (and, sadly, so do many such Catholics).
As to whether Episcopalians would just go ahead and baptize the child of any Christians who approached them for the sacrament, regardless of denomination, I cannot say for sure, but apparently they do. In the case of Catholics, they'd probably view such a request as a kind of validation (and Episcopalians welcome nothing more than legitimization by Catholics).
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she really lost any of my "give her the benefit of the doubt" when she was reported to have said “Who gives a __ about Christmas?”
Secretly recorded tapes show Melania Trump’s ... bashing of Christmas decorations (https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/melania-trump-tapes/index.html)
No. Your own link demonstrates that you took her words out of context.
She said "who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations?"
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No. Your own link demonstrates that you took her words out of context.
She said "who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations?"
It’s bad enough that men use language like that, it’s even more disgusting when woman use it. With this and especially with what she said about murdering little babies, to me she is hideous despite her external appearance.
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It’s bad enough that men use language like that, it’s even more disgusting when woman use it. With this and especially with what she said about murdering little babies, to me she is hideous despite her external appearance.
Agreed!
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Alas, based on her recent comments about abortion, I would have to say that no, she's no longer Catholic. She upholds and promotes not only the liceity of abortion, but even declares it to be some kind of fundamental right of a woman.
So, one can be a heretic on any matter of faith and morals, and the grave immorality of abortion is dogmatic in the realm of moral theology via the Ordinary Universal Magisterium. Sometimes it's unclear whether the OUM has defined something, but abortion has always, everywhere, and by all Catholics been considered a grave sin.
Conqeuently, Melania Trump is a manifest heretic who's no longer a member of the Catholic Church.
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No, she remains a Catholic. Marrying outside the Church wouldn't cause her not to be a Catholic anymore, ...
Not, but her manifest heresy regarding abortion puts her outside of actual membership in the Catholic Church (a qualification to avoid arguing with Stubborn again).
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Not, but her manifest heresy regarding abortion puts her outside of actual membership in the Catholic Church (a qualification to avoid arguing with Stubborn again).
Yes. Like "Pope" Francis. Very sad.
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Yes. Like "Pope" Francis. Very sad.
I'm not sure to what saying of Bergoglio you refer. Obviously, advocating for abortion is no problem for Jorge. He's appointed people to the "Pontifical Academy for Life [sic]" who are ardent pro-abortionists.
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Name a famous Catholic person who attends the Traditional Latin Mass outside the Conciliar Church. Other than Mel Gibson.
This is why most people do not even know how to be Catholic.
What should we do with people like this who the Conciliar Church has set up to fail in the first place? Fail by not truly finding Catholicism or being Catholic.
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Name a famous Catholic person who attends the Traditional Latin Mass outside the Conciliar Church. Other than Mel Gibson.
This is why most people do not even know how to be Catholic.
What should we do with people like this who the Conciliar Church has set up to fail in the first place? Fail by not truly finding Catholicism or being Catholic.
Natural law is enough to tell a sane person, Catholic or not, how messed up abortion is. One can only blame so much on the conciliarists.
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The book comes out next Tuesday before the elections.
Someone decided this timing was a good idea. Wonder why.
Quote below from: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/03/melania-trump-memoir-abortion (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/03/melania-trump-memoir-abortion)
A spokesperson for the Republican nominee did not respond to a request for comment. Trump himself spoke to Fox News (https://x.com/atrupar/status/1841964768669626443), while staging a rally in Saginaw, Michigan.
“We spoke about it,” he said, when asked about his wife expressing support for abortion rights in opposition to his record and platform.
“And I said: ‘You have to write what you believe.’ I’m not going to tell her what she should do. You have to write what you believe. She’s very beloved. People love our former first lady, I can tell you that. But I said: ‘You have to stick with your heart.’ I’ve said that to everybody, you have to go with your heart.”
(Didn't Woody Allen say, "the heart wants what the heart wants" or something like that?)
So the hubby and the campaign were also cool with her releasing this book publicity video just yesterday: https://x.com/MELANIATRUMP/status/1841806743216537870 (https://x.com/MELANIATRUMP/status/1841806743216537870)
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Name a famous Catholic person who attends the Traditional Latin Mass outside the Conciliar Church. Other than Mel Gibson.
This is why most people do not even know how to be Catholic.
What should we do with people like this who the Conciliar Church has set up to fail in the first place? Fail by not truly finding Catholicism or being Catholic.
There's of course Archbishop Vigano ... with whom Donald and Melania should be (and are undoubtedly) well acquainted.
Then you have some Motarians at least:
Clarence Thomas, Pat Buchanan, Judge Napolitano
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Natural law is enough to tell a sane person, Catholic or not, how messed up abortion is. One can only blame so much on the conciliarists.
Indeed, the natural law suffices, but then also, the degree to which Melania may or may not be culpable in the internal forum is entirely up to God. We can only judge by the externals (as St. Robert Bellarmine teaches), and she's a manifest heretic who has forfeited membership in the Church.
Despite Jorge's bloviations to muddy up the question, every Catholic of good will and who's taken even the slightest bit of interest to find out Church teaching on the matter will find that the Catholic Church has always unmistakably taught that abortion is evil ... even through the "St." Wojtyla era. And even Jorge will state as much ... in principle ... while acting as if it weren't true.
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Someone decided this timing was a good idea. Wonder why.
Indeed, there's no doubt that the timing of this is deliberate. Trump (and his campaign) probably believe that they have the conservative base "in the bag" and are now appealing to those "moderates" who are "frightened" of Trump's opposition to abortion. This is a way to soften that, at least indirectly. DJ Trump has gone out of his way to tell women that their "reproductive rights" will be safe under him, to say he'll fund IVF with tax dollars, to backtrack and allow numerous "exceptions" to abortion, to assert that he won't seek a federal ban on abortions. Now, with Melania, those on the right can say, "well, it's not entirely relevant what she thinks and it won't change my mind about voting for Trump, since he's his own man on the issue", while holding out hope to moderates that, "well, if he's married to a pro-abortion woman, evidently he doesn't find the disagreement a grave irreconcilable matter of principle, and she might exert a softening/moderating influence on him".
They're also hoping that most people will buy the "lesser evil" approach to voting so the conseratives will vote for him, despite this, even if holding their proverbial noses ... whereas he's courting the moderates/independents. I don't think he's counting on the fact that his 2016 (and even 2020) base may have eroded due to the fact that he did not keep his campaign promises, promoted/pushed the jab, and is now even softening on abortion.
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There's of course Archbishop Vigano ... with whom Donald and Melania should be (and are undoubtedly) well acquainted.
Then you have some Motarians at least:
Clarence Thomas, Pat Buchanan, Judge Napolitano
I am not familiar with the term Motarians. What does it mean?
Are we even sure what Archbishop Vigano is doing right now, he speaks against Pope Francis, but he isn't leaning toward any of the other traditional groups out there? He is basically just starting his own movement without any reference to the ones that are already out there. I tried to get an answer in regard to his consecration, because we were looking to see about his seminary, but I have yet to get a response.
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I am not familiar with the term Motarians. What does it mean?
That's an adjective derived from the term Motu in Motu Proprio, a reference to the docuмent released by Benedict XVI Ratzinger to (purportedly) liberate the Tridentine Mass. So I use the term as shorthand for those who attend the Tridentine Latin Mass, but only those permitted by the Conciliar Church (the so-called Diocesan "Motu" Masses, FSSP, ICK, etc.). This displaces an earlier term sometimes used by non-Conciliar-affiliated Traditional Catholics, Indulterers, which refers to the docuмent by John Paul II which allowed bishops to permit the Tridentine Mass (before Benedict XVI), and also was a pejorative play on words for "adulterers". This really was just a sleight of hand in that JP2 said the Tridentine Mass was forbidden unless permitted, whereas Ratzinger said it was permitted unless forbidden ... both resulting in the same thing for all intents and purposes, where permission to say it was subject to the bishop ... with the sole exception that under Ratzinger's Motu priests could offer the Tridentine Mass privately without permission. Now, again, due to the priest shortage in the Conciliar Church, it was relatively rare for priests to be able to offer Mass privately, and many of the Modernists don't even consider it licit (or even valid) for a priest to offer Mass alone (without the "community" being present and participating, since, after all, he's merely a presider, who then has no role without anyone to preside over).
So, the one benefit of Ratzinger's Motu was that when +Vigano went into hiding after exposing Bergoglio's coverup of the predators (most notably, McCarrick), he took advantage of the Motu to begin offering the Tridentine Mass, and that Mass, being the greatest teacher of the faith, converted him to Traditional Catholicism (as I had initially speculated and +Vigano himself later confirmed).
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Are we even sure what Archbishop Vigano is doing right now, he speaks against Pope Francis, but he isn't leaning toward any of the other traditional groups out there? He is basically just starting his own movement without any reference to the ones that are already out there. I tried to get an answer in regard to his consecration, because we were looking to see about his seminary, but I have yet to get a response.
Well, he does still have some connections with the Resistance, though some/many of the latter are none too happy about his Bergoglian sedevacantism. In any case, the Resistance priests aren't really closely connected anyway, not in any kind of formal organization, and work independently, the greatest active cooperation being when a priest needs the services of a bishop ... of which +Vigano has no need, already being a bishop. Whom are you trying to contact regarding the seminary/consecration ... since the problem +Vigano has (due to his fame and notoriety) is that he's absolutely besieged by people trying to contact him for one reason or another? Is your son even fluent enough in Italian where it would make that seminary viable for him?
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Well, he does still have some connections with the Resistance, though some/many of the latter are none too happy about his Bergoglian sedevacantism. In any case, the Resistance priests aren't really closely connected anyway, not in any kind of formal organization, and work independently, the greatest active cooperation being when a priest needs the services of a bishop ... of which +Vigano has no need, already being a bishop. Whom are you trying to contact regarding the seminary/consecration ... since the problem +Vigano has (due to his fame and notoriety) is that he's absolutely besieged by people trying to contact him for one reason or another? Is your son even fluent enough in Italian where it would make that seminary viable for him?
I contacted the United States Exsurge Domine group about what type of volunteers they needed. They then asked questions. We went to our priest. He said they need to give info on a conditional consecration before we proceed further with them, so I explained why I was inquiring and asked the question. I just took the chance, I didn't really expect an answer. My point is that I didn't just randomly approach the Archbishop directly.
My son figured if it was the right path he would learn Italian, an Italian person volunteered to privately tutor him. He won't make any choice without the stamp of his priests approval, so here we are waiting, as a potential priest learns to be worldly and maybe gives up because there is too much politics in the current Catholic circles.
I don't believe that normally God trumps mans decisions. I thought it was a try the seminary and then figure out your vocation. Now it is just hold this political belief and we will let you try. Sorry Melancholic spiral.
The weight of all the evil in the world is getting the best of me these days.
Carry on.
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I contacted the United States Exsurge Domine group about what type of volunteers they needed.
Never heard of them.
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Never heard of them.
It's one of the links on the Exsurge Domine to make donations in the US. There mailing address is in Omaha.
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Never heard of them.
"Exsurge Domine" is the group/site started by Archbishop Vigano.
https://exsurgedomine.it/chi-siamo/ (https://exsurgedomine.it/chi-siamo/)
"Exsurge Domine USA" is the US support group for Vigano:
"What is the link between the Association of Exsurge Domine founded by Archbishop Viganò and Exsurge Domine USA?
Exsurge Domine USA is an affiliate of the parent association, made up of Lay Faithful Catholics who desire to aid His Excellency in preserving the traditional faith and supporting persecuted priests and religious in the United States, as well as world wide. All operations are under the leadership of His Grace, Carlo Maria Viganò"
https://exsurgedomineusa.org/ (https://exsurgedomineusa.org/)
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Right, I heard of Exsurge Domine, but not this "US Support Group". What exactly are they supporting other than collecting funds and publishing an English version of the website?
They define themselves as people who "desire to support" +Vigano ... rather than anything concrete.
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Right, I heard of Exsurge Domine, but not this "US Support Group". What exactly are they supporting other than collecting funds and publishing an English version of the website?
They define themselves as people who "desire to support" +Vigano ... rather than anything concrete.
They are looking for volunteers and it sounds like if you are not getting sacraments they try to provide help. They had at least one Priest and a Sister, who at the time of my email were helping in Italy and were due back and would contact me, but like I said when I mentioned the conditional consecration, all communication stopped.
It is frustrating, because we don't need another stand alone group to add more politics to the Crisis.
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I expect Melania to finally get her first Vogue cover now
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I expect Melania to finally get her first Vogue cover now
I miss when First Ladies (and VPs for that matter) shut up and stayed in the background.
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Her opinion clearly comes directly from mainstream media. Nothing she says here is true. I wonder how many more people would be pro-life if they were given the truth rather than lies.
(https://i.imgur.com/5RKdEte.png)
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They are looking for volunteers and it sounds like if you are not getting sacraments they try to provide help. They had at least one Priest and a Sister, who at the time of my email were helping in Italy and were due back and would contact me, but like I said when I mentioned the conditional consecration, all communication stopped.
It is frustrating, because we don't need another stand alone group to add more politics to the Crisis.
Unfortunately, no surprise there.
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They are looking for volunteers and it sounds like if you are not getting sacraments they try to provide help. They had at least one Priest and a Sister, who at the time of my email were helping in Italy and were due back and would contact me, but like I said when I mentioned the conditional consecration, all communication stopped.
It is frustrating, because we don't need another stand alone group to add more politics to the Crisis.
You need to realize that there can and will never be any kind of unity without the Catholic papacy, and that any other unities out there are completely artificial. That is in fact why Bishop Williamson went with the current model of The Resistance, where there is no formal unity, just a loose-knit group of Catholics who cooperate because they think alike about the crisis.
It really does sound like YOU are the one who's politicizing this crisis, where you're looking for THE PERFECT seminary that lines up with all of YOUR positions. You can complain all you want about the different "stand alone groups," but you're doing the exact same thing, claiming that you cannot be affiliated with any of the existing groups due to your own "stand alone"-ish thinking. You're practically on the edge of home-alonism looking for the perfect group and the perfect seminary for your son.
You need to ...
1) recognize that many of the different opinions about the crisis are not dogmatic and that Catholics can agree to disagree on some things
2) find the best situation you can, not only in terms of doctrine, but also formation and spirituality
... and go with it and live with it, as the best you can do during this crisis.
Before Vatican II, there were myriad options and the priesthood was not a "one size fits all", but the options are more limited now.
You're really one step away from home-aloneism and are basically setting up your own mine "stand alone group" that apparently is incompatible with all the other "stand alone groups" you criticize.
There are many options for seminaries out there.
From what I understand about your own positions, Bishop Sanborn or the CMRI would be the best fit for you. Bishop Sanborn is sedeprivationist, but he makes it clear that you don't HAVE to be a sedeprivationist to be at his seminary ... though you'd better be prepared to defend your position from Catholic principles. But he's rather dogmatic anti-una-cuм and would not tolerate assistance at any una cuм Masses. CMRI are less dogmatic, but are not sedeprivationist (rather, straight SV). What exactly is your problem with them? Is it because they use the Pius XII Holy Week Rites? So what? So did the entire Catholic world in the late 1950s and early 1960s ... and the SVs have to admit that there can be nothing intrinsically evil or harmful about them (to remain consistent with their own principles). So you've dogmatized the Holy Week Rites to such an extent that your son couldn't co-exist at a seminary that uses them?
You 100% sound as though you'd try to get your son ordained and then consecrated a bishop (since no one else out there is good enough for you), and then start your OWN "stand alone group" ... while criticizing all the others for doing the same thing. I think you need to snap out of this.
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You need to realize that there can and will never be any kind of unity without the Catholic papacy, and that any other unities out there are completely artificial. That is in fact why Bishop Williamson went with the current model of The Resistance, where there is no formal unity, just a loose-knit group of Catholics who cooperate because they think alike about the crisis.
It really does sound like YOU are the one who's politicizing this crisis, where you're looking for THE PERFECT seminary that lines up with all of YOUR positions. You can complain all you want about the different "stand alone groups," but you're doing the exact same thing, claiming that you cannot be affiliated with any of the existing groups due to your own "stand alone"-ish thinking. You're practically on the edge of home-alonism looking for the perfect group and the perfect seminary for your son.
You need to ...
1) recognize that many of the different opinions about the crisis are not dogmatic and that Catholics can agree to disagree on some things
2) find the best situation you can, not only in terms of doctrine, but also formation and spirituality
... and go with it and live with it, as the best you can do during this crisis.
Before Vatican II, there were myriad options and the priesthood was not a "one size fits all", but the options are more limited now.
You're really one step away from home-aloneism and are basically setting up your own mine "stand alone group" that apparently is incompatible with all the other "stand alone groups" you criticize.
There are many options for seminaries out there.
From what I understand about your own positions, Bishop Sanborn or the CMRI would be the best fit for you. Bishop Sanborn is sedeprivationist, but he makes it clear that you don't HAVE to be a sedeprivationist to be at his seminary ... though you'd better be prepared to defend your position from Catholic principles. But he's rather dogmatic anti-una-cuм and would not tolerate assistance at any una cuм Masses. CMRI are less dogmatic, but are not sedeprivationist (rather, straight SV). What exactly is your problem with them? Is it because they use the Pius XII Holy Week Rites? So what? So did the entire Catholic world in the late 1950s and early 1960s ... and the SVs have to admit that there can be nothing intrinsically evil or harmful about them (to remain consistent with their own principles). So you've dogmatized the Holy Week Rites to such an extent that your son couldn't co-exist at a seminary that uses them?
You 100% sound as though you'd try to get your son ordained and then consecrated a bishop (since no one else out there is good enough for you), and then start your OWN "stand alone group" ... while criticizing all the others for doing the same thing. I think you need to snap out of this.
Please stop making assumptions. You are not even close to right on what you just posted.
It was never our choice. Politics happened, assumptions were made, and doors closed all by the men involved, not us.
Without having a real life conversation, none of this will make sense to you.
DM if you actually care to know the whole story.
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Hey you guys... back off!
Cera has previously assured us Melania is christian.
She's just currently confused about the souls of Babies and queers.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi0.wp.com%2Fwww.eurasiareview.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F06%2Fa-207.jpg%3Fresize%3D800%252C445%26ssl%3D1&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=68ea71282ea27943c2844768bfaccb07a915ba76fc5dfb17e24c86102f882b55&ipo=images)
Melanie Trump puts her secret Christmas wish list in the wall of Ft. Antonia.
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Put God first. Many like Melania are either poorly Catechized or put their needs first instead of putting God first. They need to read and comprehend their bibles. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Our countries around the world needs to repent and turn to Jesus.
Jesus tells us to clothe people, give them food and water. Jesus says Go and Sin no more.