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Author Topic: God Save You Mary = the start of Spanish Hail Mary  (Read 1102 times)

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Re: God Save You Mary = the start of Spanish Hail Mary
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2021, 07:55:29 PM »
I speak Spanish fluently just like the Cuban you mention. He must have been a traditionalist like me who knew better than to say it the way it is said by everyone. Google the first three lines of your prayer above and you'll find that it comes back as "Dios te salve Maria", which is the way it is said in Spanish everywhere. Hence the OP.
Yes, he is more traditional.  When his family had the opportunity he would go to the Latin Mass and that was back when I was still a teenager and had to go to the novus ordo with my family.

I never heard the other version in all my studies.  It must be a newer thing?  Maybe novus ordo?  Because it could cause confusion for Our Lady?  🤔

Re: God Save You Mary = the start of Spanish Hail Mary
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2021, 01:39:39 AM »
I never heard the other version in all my studies.  It must be a newer thing?  Maybe novus ordo?  
Read the article translation posting #2, it has been the standard since the 1500's. 


Re: God Save You Mary = the start of Spanish Hail Mary
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2021, 03:05:40 AM »
Yes, that seems correct. We say, Salve, Regina, in the Hail, Holy Queen. But Salve here just refers to a Salutation, i.e. "Hail".
So I think, in context, if indeed this translation is widely used, that must be the meaning. "God Hails Thee", or God Salutes Thee, Mary.
Have you read the very detailed article? You have not responded in any way to the details in the article. All that you have given is your opinion: "that must be the meaning".  Basically, you are just saying, the writer must be wrong. Do you even speak Spanish?

Re: God Save You Mary = the start of Spanish Hail Mary
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2021, 05:12:54 AM »
I took Spanish in Highschool and went with the Seton Homestudy School Spanish Professor and his family to a family reunion in FL to become more fluent in the language.  His daughter was one of my best friends.  Every day we prayed the rosary in Spanish.  There was no "God save you Mary" in it.  

Granted, that was about 12 years ago but we said it SO MANY times that it iskind of imprinted upon my mind. Here is what I remember:

Ave Maria.
Llena eres de gracia:
El Señor es contigo.
Bendita tú entre todas las mujeres.
Y bendito es el fruto de tu vientre:
Jesús.
Santa María, Madre de Dios,
ruega por nosotros pecadores,
ahora y en la hora de nuestra muerte.
Amén.

My translation:
Hail Mary:
Full you are of grace.
The Lord is with you.
Blessed are you above all the women.
And blessed is He the fruit of your womb:
Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God
Pray for us sinners
Now and in the hour of our death.
Amen
Thank you. ( I would like prayer cards on how to pray the rosary to hand out. I have to see if I have any old pamphlets.). 😁

Re: God Save You Mary = the start of Spanish Hail Mary
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2021, 06:54:28 AM »
They were originally from Cuba.  He made it out on a fishing boat and his wife was ransomed by family in Spain.  They met later in FL.

He taught and explained the different dialects.
*He taught...  For some reason cathinfo changed it to I taught.  🤔