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Offline WorldsAway

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Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2025, 05:27:26 PM »
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  • When wearing more traditional clothes, how do you deal with sweating? Do you just wear a light tshirt underneath?
    Different fabrics for different weather. For instance, a loose weave, lightweight linen fabric will allow for air flow while effectively wicking moisture away from the skin (linen is known for its ability to absorb a lot of moisture), and the air flow that is allowed will also help dry the fabric faster if it is saturated with sweat. Personally, I sweat a lot regardless, so I just think to myself, "What will this matter tomorrow?"  :smirk:
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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #31 on: May 15, 2025, 05:27:56 PM »
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  • A good book that might help woman understand better. 

    https://tanbooks.com/products/books/dressing-with-dignity/

    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"


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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #32 on: May 15, 2025, 06:28:29 PM »
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  • There is an interesting bit of science/psychology you should be aware of. If you could measure where the eye looks (with a camera/computer) you would notice that any V shape directs the eyes to the point of the V. So, in the case of a woman wearing pants, the eyes are naturally going to gravitate to the point of the V: the butt/crotch area.

    It's not a question of choice or virtue -- we're talking about basic psychology, a basic visual reflex, like people looking in the direction of an explosion. It's *going* to happen every time, unless you consciously stop yourself.

    Do you wear bright orange and complain that men give you more attention? Of course not. You just don't fight against the whole of human nature. It is foolish to endeavor to swim upstream. If you don't want men looking at your groin area, then don't wear clothing that begs/coaxes/compels them to. Only a small percent of men are going to habitually walk with their eyes cast down, etc. Think about it.

    Now add to this, the fact that men are more "visual" by nature. That is why pants, on women, is fundamentally immodest. Men don't have "hips" or a "figure" to show off that women admire. Even if they did, women aren't just feminine men. They are wired differently.
    Plus men are doing work that requires pants. Women should be doing jobs that cater to their femininity, rather than destroy it.


    Long story short: pants are immodest. The same arguments "Men should have the virtue to always walk with their eyes cast down", etc. would equally apply to going around with low plunging necklines -- or even bikinis. And no one is going to argue that such clothing is modest! If your clothing requires (heroic?) virtue on the part of all men who cross your path -- your clothing isn't modest.
    Agree.
    And in the case of men, stop sitting with your legs splayed apart.  Young girls and teens haven't developed the custody of their eyes yet.
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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #33 on: May 15, 2025, 08:08:17 PM »
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  • If a loose tunic top and loose fitting pants are worn, I don’t find them necessarily immodest. IMO, the idea that all men are checking out women’s crotches is a bit exaggerated. Men or women whose pants are tight are immodest. Guys who wear loose pants and do the “man-spreading” thing on public transport or in public are just as disgusting as any woman who thinks skin tight leggings or tights are trousers. Both are totally classless, in bad taste, and lewd.  # for bare bellies, muscle shirts, short shorts, bare backs, top or bottom cleavage, undergarments that show, or too high hemlines. Most women do not have lovely knees and old men with bony knees best confine them to the backyard. 

    Both genders, if you swim in public, wear a coverup when not in the water. Use discernment in the kind of places you swim. If a pool or beach is referred to as a “meat market,” there’s a reason. Stay away, especially if you have children or are male. 
    A young adult male relative of mine had the experience of going for a swim at a campground with a river beach. He saw a few couples, a few guys, and a family off to the side, so he figured it looked tame enough. He dove in only to have two of the guys swim over to the ropes and invite him to a threesome in their tent!  Obviously, he declined. Upon looking into the campground online, he learned it is a favorite weekend spot for rainbow types from Philadelphia. 
    I felt a bit bad because I recommended the place having camped there about 15 years ago.  I used that beach myself and didn’t notice anything untoward. It seemed then to be a campsite for families and retired couples in RVs. 
    My guess is that had I gone there last year swimming, nobody would have given me a second glance. Young gαy guys will have no interest in a mid-60’s lady in a swim dress who paddles around, cools off, then dons a coverup, and retreats to a chaise lounge to read a book.  
    Had the beach been populated with older men by themselves, I’d not use it. A normal widower or divorced man still has youthful desires. If he thought I might have money, all the better!  Young men won’t have interest that way in a granny, and I’m well past the age of being tempted by men young enough to be grandsons!  Still, I avoid most public beaches or go only at certain times when not crowded. 




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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #34 on: May 15, 2025, 08:09:23 PM »
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  • Agree.
    And in the case of men, stop sitting with your legs splayed apart.  Young girls and teens haven't developed the custody of their eyes yet.
    Some men just happen to sit like that, for comfort, also how should men sit? Don't want to crush the eggs.


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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #35 on: May 15, 2025, 08:41:34 PM »
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  • A good book that might help woman understand better. 

    https://tanbooks.com/products/books/dressing-with-dignity/



    That's where I got my quote from (about the V), actually.
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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #36 on: May 15, 2025, 08:51:55 PM »
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  • A woman wearing a dress seems to immediately catch the eye nowadays. I was driving past a Jehovah's Witnesses Church "Kingdom Hall" and my eyes were drawn, like a magnet, to two young women wearing modest dresses..poor souls!
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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #37 on: May 15, 2025, 09:08:09 PM »
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  • A woman wearing a dress seems to immediately catch the eye nowadays. I was driving past a Jehovah's Witnesses Church "Kingdom Hall" and my eyes were drawn, like a magnet, to two young women wearing modest dresses..poor souls!
    Yeah a young lady in a dress has incredible appeal. Much more than immodesty dressed women. At least not regards to lust. And that's a good thing.


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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #38 on: May 15, 2025, 09:13:08 PM »
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  • Some men just happen to sit like that, for comfort, also how should men sit? Don't want to crush the eggs.
    I take it you meant that humorously. No, a man shouldn’t sit with crossed legs or in a feminine manner. But a man who sits so as to draw attention to his privates is just plain nasty.  

    I’m also wondering why I was given a downthumb. With what does someone disagree and why.  Civil, reasoned replies only, please! 
    If it was my not entirely objecting to all pants on any women, ever, okay. It doesn’t mean I favor wearing pants, just that I don’t automatically condemn all who do. If it’s because there’s a fellow on here who can’t help but stare at the v-section of all females he ever sees in pants, then I feel very sorry for you. So many women are just ugly, covered in tattoos, piercings, half shaved heads dyed green and purple, gopped on Goth make-up, deliberately ripped up clothing, rolls of fat with muffin top and overhanging “apron” showing, her speech and behavior to match. Wearing pants is the least of her problems. How such a woman could tempt a man calling himself Christian is beyond me. 
    Of course, I’m not a man, have never been married, so maybe I’m wrong about what tempts men. All I have to go upon is the examples set by my father, my male cousins, and my nephews. When they saw/see a hideous female, the reaction is disgust, not the shame of embarrassment due to momentary, involuntary temptation. 

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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #39 on: May 15, 2025, 09:49:27 PM »
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  • I take it you meant that humorously. No, a man shouldn’t sit with crossed legs or in a feminine manner. But a man who sits so as to draw attention to his privates is just plain nasty. 

    I’m also wondering why I was given a downthumb. With what does someone disagree and why.  Civil, reasoned replies only, please!

    I was the one who downvoted you in relation to the below post.
    Guys who wear loose pants and do the “man-spreading” thing on public transport or in public are just as disgusting as any woman who thinks skin tight leggings or tights are trousers. Both are totally classless, in bad taste, and lewd.
    While I agree that to sit in to sit in a provocative manner is disgusting. However that is not normally why men would sit with their legs apart (to an extent). It is normally because to sit with ones thighs touching can be quite painful for men. Men sitting with their legs apart (to an extent) is quite common and should not be mistaken for provocative behaviour.
    As a previous poster said:


    Don't want to crush the eggs.

    I agreed with the rest of your post for the most part though. 

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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #40 on: May 15, 2025, 10:14:49 PM »
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  • I was the one who downvoted you in relation to the below post. While I agree that to sit in to sit in a provocative manner is disgusting. However that is not normally why men would sit with their legs apart (to an extent). It is normally because to sit with ones thighs touching can be quite painful for men. Men sitting with their legs apart (to an extent) is quite common and should not be mistaken for provocative behaviour.
    As a previous poster said:


    I agreed with the rest of your post for the most part though.
    No offense taken. Thanks for the explanation. I guess you are not in an environment where there are men who are simply lewd, who DO quite deliberately sit so as to display themselves.  It seems to have originated as part of the rap/hip hop culture in NYC. I first saw it in about 2000, done in the subway by young men of a certain race, but now imitated by other races eager to lower themselves. I could get very descriptive to prove my point, but I won’t. 
    I guess I see the world so deteriorated to the point where there’s a more clearly defined line between good and evil. Many have fallen so low that they are no longer tempting. Those who still adhere at least to Natural Law are disgusted rather than tempted.  Evil is overt, its practitioners proud of their hatred for God and everything made by and for Him.


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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #41 on: May 15, 2025, 11:06:42 PM »
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  • I take it you meant that humorously. No, a man shouldn’t sit with crossed legs or in a feminine manner. But a man who sits so as to draw attention to his privates is just plain nasty. 

    I’m also wondering why I was given a downthumb. With what does someone disagree and why.  Civil, reasoned replies only, please!
    If it was my not entirely objecting to all pants on any women, ever, okay. It doesn’t mean I favor wearing pants, just that I don’t automatically condemn all who do. If it’s because there’s a fellow on here who can’t help but stare at the v-section of all females he ever sees in pants, then I feel very sorry for you. So many women are just ugly, covered in tattoos, piercings, half shaved heads dyed green and purple, gopped on Goth make-up, deliberately ripped up clothing, rolls of fat with muffin top and overhanging “apron” showing, her speech and behavior to match. Wearing pants is the least of her problems. How such a woman could tempt a man calling himself Christian is beyond me.
    Of course, I’m not a man, have never been married, so maybe I’m wrong about what tempts men. All I have to go upon is the examples set by my father, my male cousins, and my nephews. When they saw/see a hideous female, the reaction is disgust, not the shame of embarrassment due to momentary, involuntary temptation.
    Extremely based. All regarding the eggs, some men natural sit with a wider stance. My grandfather was like that.

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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #42 on: May 15, 2025, 11:44:47 PM »
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  • So many women wear short shorts... it's terrible.
    not only them but they let their little daughters do the same. little girls walking around with their lower butt cheeks hanging out. terrible parenting. modesty is alien to modern woman. i actually heard a grown woman tell a little girl (presumably her niece; hopefully not her daughter) "you're sexy with that outfit". I was aghast. 

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    Re: Do Women Wear Dresses Anymore?
    « Reply #43 on: May 16, 2025, 04:39:56 PM »
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  • not only them but they let their little daughters do the same. little girls walking around with their lower butt cheeks hanging out. terrible parenting. modesty is alien to modern woman. i actually heard a grown woman tell a little girl (presumably her niece; hopefully not her daughter) "you're sexy with that outfit". I was aghast.

    We are living in Sodom, or perhaps Gomorrah. Or Babylon.

    We need to look at The World that way. As the bad guy, "other", "the enemy" -- in short, a bunker mentality. Oh you don't have to -- you can lose your grasp of the truth and your soul. We all have Free Will.
    But if you want to serve God, you absolutely have to stick to reality, which is the fact that the World is the enemy. Not neutral -- it's the enemy.

    Go watch any movie or read any book about a cult, or read about the Amish. Note how they look at the world at large. That is EXACTLY the level of aloofness and caution WE TRADITIONAL Catholics should have as well. Those cults are wrong about their beliefs, etc. but NOT about their desire to be aloof from a wicked world that is against them. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    If someone calls me a cult, because I do something (the one thing) the cults are doing right? I wouldn't care. See how that helps defend you?
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  • Ties on a girl or woman looks just plain stupid!  It's as if they're saying, "I can't wear pants but I can still look like a man"  Also ties on female police officers also suggests this "I want to be a man" attitude.
    A tie is a stronger statement on a woman than wearing pants.
    Well, I guess you can write letters of complaint to thousands of schools in Britain, Ireland, Scottland, Wales, India, Jamaica, the Caribbean, Africa, other European countries….
    Just kidding. :jester:  
    It’s a cultural thing, gives different messages in different places.
    I find men in three piece formal suits, jacket, tie, crisp white business shirt, polished dress shoes…..with white knee socks and shorts, to look comical. That’s fine for a boy up to maybe 10 or 11 years old, but after that?  Just no!  I have a particular dislike of bony knees on old men which knee socks only emphasize!