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College degrees are crap (mostly)- Ben Shapiro & Mike Rowe
« on: August 03, 2018, 07:57:06 AM »
This "college for everyone" idea pushed by our government and public and higher education in recent years is complete garbage and makes of college degree's worthless paper- in most cases. Its the reason that so many graduate today without being able to get a job. "You have a degree? Cool. What can you actually 'do'?"

I really enjoyed this interview. Ben Shapiro (my favorite jew :D) interview's Mike Rowe. Rowe has an initiate which encourages people to pursue skilled trades which, according to him, have millions of job shortages currently. Any Catholic man (young or otherwise) looking to support a family should consider this excellent advice, when applicable (College isn't "bad"; its just not for everyone- and that's okay!).

(*Warning- these are not Catholics talking. One is a jew and one is an I-don't-know-what-probably-secular-humanist-probably. There are a few annoying references to Neitzsche  and Kant, which I don't approve of.)


Re: College degrees are crap (mostly)- Ben Shapiro & Mike Rowe
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2018, 08:04:32 AM »
As someone attending a university, I agree that there should be more people in trades. "College is for everyone" is one of the biggest lies out there.

EDIT: You don't have to warn us that there are no Catholics speaking, btw. In today's world, you can't only listen to Trad Catholics speak because there's not that much to go off of.


Re: College degrees are crap (mostly)- Ben Shapiro & Mike Rowe
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2018, 08:22:41 AM »
Thanks for the tip! Can I ask what you are pursuing? 

Re: College degrees are crap (mostly)- Ben Shapiro & Mike Rowe
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2018, 09:36:45 AM »
I would say that it depends greatly on what the degree is in, and what the person would like to go for a living, as to whether or not the degree is "crap."

If a person goes to college and gets a degree is women's studies or sɛҳuąƖity or something like that, it's almost always crap.

If a person goes to college and gets a general degree in liberal arts, or communication, or something like that with no clear path on what they want to do, it's likely going to be crap.

If a person goes to college and gets a degree in the classics, or history, or English, or something like that, but expects to get a highly-paid job at some business, it's likely going to be crap.  If, however, a person gets one of theses degrees and expects to work in one those fields, and be compensated according to the market, the degree may be valuable.

If a person goes to college and gets a degree in engineering, or computer science, or something like that, and expects to work in one of those fields, the degree is likely going to be very valuable in today's world.

I am in complete agreement that the push to have everyone go to a four-year college and get a degree is completely nonsensical.  Not everyone has the temperament, knowledge, or desire to go to a traditional college after high school.  There is no shame whatsoever in going into a trade, either through a trade school or apprenticeship, and, as pointed out in the video, skilled workers in these fields are in high demand, and can earn a man a comfortable living for raising a family.

Re: College degrees are crap (mostly)- Ben Shapiro & Mike Rowe
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2018, 02:17:22 PM »
The public schools start pushing the "college degree for everyone" trash in Kindergarten or even earlier if there is a UPK program.  This is to insure every adult is so deeply mired in debt that a government assigned job will be the only means of getting out---take it or starve.  It's drummed into children that people who lack college degrees are stupid, ignorant fools, to be pitied now, and hated later.  

Go to college/university only if;
1.  Your chosen field requires it.
2. You're 99.9% you want to work in that field.  (Shadow someone who does your dream job for a year to be certain.)
-or- 3. You're already in the field, like it, and need more education to advance or keep your job.
4.  You are strong in your Faith, (Know your doctrine as piety alone won't stand up against the liberal onslaught.)
5.  You are emotionally, socially, spiritually, financially mature and secure.  (For most, going straight to college from high school is a bad idea.)*
6.  You can hold down a job and manage money. *Same comment.
7.  You have a Plan B in case it doesn't work out, is interrupted, must be post-poned.
8.  You can function in the non-tradcat world.  (Really!  Not just, "I think so.")
9.  You can afford it.  (You're independently wealthy, your parents don't mind losing the money they co-signed on, you are able to work and go to school. Know the latter, no guess work allowed!)
10. You are familiar with the school and the outlying community, its atmosphere, culture, cost of living, availability of Mass, for socializing, jobs, leisure activities (You won't have much time, but humans need some time to relax or they burn-out.), climate-as in weather.

Answer no to any of the above?  Best to reconsider or wait.
University is for adults, not kids.