That is true about the jews. I forgot about that. Well, my husbands cousin, that died Oct. 14, will have a ceremony for life (?) Nov. 1 and that is not a burial, they are waiting for cremation, or should I say, waiting for the death certificate. Now, know this also, along with D.A.V.E. are other certificates: marriage, fetal death, birth certificates which come under (vital effects). There was a book called, "Trends" ? and I think it was in there the changes to take place such as; no marriage till you get permission. SO, my mind thinks, will they try this?