Author Topic: Best state to move to (Read 2173 times)

2Vermont · « **Reply #30 on:** June 03, 2020, 06:06:01 AM »

Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on June 03, 2020, 05:58:03 AM

Is this the very effeminate Croix again?

Well, he had another account banned yesterday: Karen Yapper. Based on the high tick in my downvotes since yesterday, I would say yes, he has yet another account here.....and who knows how many others. He's like the resident bed bug.

Quo vadis Domine · « **Reply #31 on:** June 03, 2020, 06:10:22 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on June 03, 2020, 06:06:01 AM

Well, he had another account banned yesterday: Karen Yapper. Based on the high tick in my downvotes since yesterday, I would say yes, he has yet another account here.....and who knows how many others. He's like the resident bed bug.

....Yeah, it’s the sissy. He/she has a reputation now. 😂😂😂

2Vermont · « **Reply #32 on:** June 03, 2020, 06:13:19 AM »

Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on June 02, 2020, 06:10:37 PM

Does anyone know anything about Oklahoma? Is the Tulsa area scenic? Are there hills? How are the mass options? Are the people conservative and friendly?

I don't know a lot about the state, but I don't think hills when I think of it. Isn't it know for its "big sky"?
Per the CMRI directory, there are a couple of locations in Oklahoma:
http://www.cmri.org/latin-mass-directory/traditional-latin-mass-locations-4.shtml

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #33 on:** June 03, 2020, 07:18:27 AM »

Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on June 03, 2020, 05:18:57 AM

Why, because they didn’t do the “lockdown”? I am considering it, but there are few mass options.

Yes.

If I were to move, these would be on my top 5 options list:

1) South Dakota: Low population density; conservative population; best governor in the country; extremely pro-life; low taxes; motto is "Under God, the people rule;" also says "we value strong families;" and "KEEPING TAXES LOW • LIMITING GOVERNMENT REGULATION • FIGHTING GOVERNMENT INTRUSION • KEEPING GOVERNMENT OPEN AND HONEST"
https://governor.sd.gov/default.aspx

These others, I choose more or less for their wilderness areas and strong prepper/self-reliance/"don't tread on me" characteristics:

2) Northern Idaho
3) Northwestern Montana
4) Wyoming
5) Northern Maine

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #34 on:** June 03, 2020, 07:35:08 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 03, 2020, 07:18:27 AM

Yes.

If I were to move, these would be on my top 5 options list:

1) South Dakota: Low population density; conservative population; best governor in the country; extremely pro-life; low taxes; motto is "Under God, the people rule;" also says "we value strong families;" and "KEEPING TAXES LOW • LIMITING GOVERNMENT REGULATION • FIGHTING GOVERNMENT INTRUSION • KEEPING GOVERNMENT OPEN AND HONEST"
https://governor.sd.gov/default.aspx

These others, I choose more or less for their wilderness areas and strong prepper/self-reliance/"don't tread on me" characteristics:

2) Northern Idaho
3) Northwestern Montana
4) Wyoming
5) Northern Maine

South Dakota boasts a lower cost of living than the national average when it comes to health, housing, utilities and transportation. With all of these savings, South Dakota residents gain a lot: #2 best state for overall well-being and happiness (MagnifyMoney 2018)

South Dakota politics are generally dominated by the Republican Party, and the state has not supported a Democratic presidential candidate since 1964 — especially notable when one considers that George McGovern, the Democratic nominee in 1972, was from South Dakota

South Dakota: #1 Best State for Retirement
Affordability is the main factor pushing it to the top spot. In addition to low living expenses, including for health care, South Dakota is one the 10 Best States for Taxes on Retirees.May 25, 2018

Open Carry is legal. South Dakota is a permitless carry state. Anyone 18 or older who can legally possess a firearm can carry openly or concealed in South Dakota without a permit/license. ... The state preempts all firearm laws in the state and local authorities can't have Laws/Ordinances against open carry.Jan 5, 2020

This is more or less the exact opposite of Minnesota.

Thed0ctor · « **Reply #35 on:** June 03, 2020, 09:56:42 AM »

Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on May 03, 2020, 04:56:24 PM

What is the best state to move to, from a traditional Catholic prospective, considering the following criteria?:

1) Mass options

2) Conservative political atmosphere and freedom

3) Homeschooling

4) Gun laws

5) Taxes

6) Weather

7) Vaccine issues

8) Covid-19 nonsense

9) Any other issues.....

My vote goes to New Hampshire. That’s where we are right now. There are things that could be better like home schooling laws, response to covid, and more freedom from vaccines for citizens if public schooling but overall a good state. Tons of Latin Mass options. The CMRI and SSPX are here if you attend them and tons of diocesan Latin Masses. Also since all the states are tiny and close together you also have Latin Mass options in Rhode Island, and Massachusetts’s so there’s a bit of redundancy there in case one bishop stops the Latin Mass. Gun laws are great. Constitutional carry with public areas you can shoot and practice for free. Property tax is high. We’re home schooling so the vaccine issue isn’t a problem for us. Also Catholic Medical Center was a good spot to have our first. Health care and job opportunities are good as well.

Quo vadis Domine · « **Reply #36 on:** June 03, 2020, 02:42:46 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 03, 2020, 07:18:27 AM

Yes.

If I were to move, these would be on my top 5 options list:

1) South Dakota: Low population density; conservative population; best governor in the country; extremely pro-life; low taxes; motto is "Under God, the people rule;" also says "we value strong families;" and "KEEPING TAXES LOW • LIMITING GOVERNMENT REGULATION • FIGHTING GOVERNMENT INTRUSION • KEEPING GOVERNMENT OPEN AND HONEST"
https://governor.sd.gov/default.aspx

These others, I choose more or less for their wilderness areas and strong prepper/self-reliance/"don't tread on me" characteristics:

2) Northern Idaho
3) Northwestern Montana
4) Wyoming
5) Northern Maine

Thanks for your input!

Quo vadis Domine · « **Reply #37 on:** June 03, 2020, 02:52:41 PM »

Quote from: Thed0ctor on June 03, 2020, 09:56:42 AM

My vote goes to New Hampshire. That’s where we are right now. There are things that could be better like home schooling laws, response to covid, and more freedom from vaccines for citizens if public schooling but overall a good state. Tons of Latin Mass options. The CMRI and SSPX are here if you attend them and tons of diocesan Latin Masses. Also since all the states are tiny and close together you also have Latin Mass options in Rhode Island, and Massachusetts’s so there’s a bit of redundancy there in case one bishop stops the Latin Mass. Gun laws are great. Constitutional carry with public areas you can shoot and practice for free. Property tax is high. We’re home schooling so the vaccine issue isn’t a problem for us. Also Catholic Medical Center was a good spot to have our first. Health care and job opportunities are good as well.

I sent you a pm.

Mr G · « **Reply #38 on:** June 08, 2020, 01:18:11 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 03, 2020, 07:35:08 AM

South Dakota boasts a lower cost of living than the national average when it comes to health, housing, utilities and transportation. With all of these savings, South Dakota residents gain a lot: #2 best state for overall well-being and happiness (MagnifyMoney 2018)

South Dakota politics are generally dominated by the Republican Party, and the state has not supported a Democratic presidential candidate since 1964 — especially notable when one considers that George McGovern, the Democratic nominee in 1972, was from South Dakota

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https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/coronavirus-pandemic-south-dakota-governor-kristi-noem-stayed-the-course/?utm_source=msn&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=morein

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Kristi Noem: The Governor Who Stayed the Course
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South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem

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Pierre, South Dakota — The coronavirus crisis hasn’t been kind to the reputations of many governors.
New York’s Andrew Cuomo held effective news conferences that at first burnished his image, but he’s now ducking responsibility for sending virus patients back into nursing homes where the disease promptly spread. Michigan’s Gretchen Whitmer is now seen as a scold who on the one hand has kept pot dispensaries open but, on the other, last week told residents who’ve gone three months without hair care to just “Google how to do a haircut.”

Among the governors whose reputation has clearly been enhanced is South Dakota’s Kristi Noem. The 48-year-old Republican, who still ranches her family’s land, didn’t issue a shelter-in-place lockdown order for her state. “The people themselves are primarily responsible for their safety,” she said in a public statement in April. She added that the state and national constitutions “prevent us from taking draconian measures much like the Chinese government has done.”
But that didn’t mean South Dakota didn’t take clear steps to control the virus. Noem issued an executive order in March urging the elderly and those with preexisting conditions to stay home and encouraging employees to practice social distancing and to telework if possible.
“We do follow Center for Disease Control guidance,” Noem told Greg Kelly of Newsmax TV. “But we also made decisions that were best for South Dakota. South Dakota is not New York City.” Indeed, per square mile, New York has more than 26,000 residents per square mile, while South Dakota has only 12.

One place where social distancing wasn’t easily possible was the Smithfield Foods pork-processing plant in Sioux Falls. It was declared part of essential infrastructure by President Trump because it alone accounted for between 4 and 5 percent of pork production in America. As Bret Schundler wrote in the Wall Street Journal: “Even states with lockdowns have exempted food production as essential, and with good reason. If governors shut down food plants, disease today would be followed by hunger tomorrow.”

But the plant’s workers did become part of a large coronavirus cluster in April, with more than 300 workers falling ill and two eventually dying. That prompted MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow to pounce on South Dakota for not issuing a stay-at-home order. At one point, Maddow addressed the camera mockingly, as if speaking directly to the governor, stating, “You are aware that it’s infectious, right? That it’s a communicable disease?”
But Noem kept calm. South Dakota had had 5,438 COVID-19 cases in all so far (1,038 are active) and a total of 65 deaths. “I always tried to be dispassionate and follow the science, facts, and data,” she told me in an interview last month. “One-liners on social media or TV don’t contribute to any solutions.”

Most recently, Noem has acted to reduce tensions over the killing of George Floyd and the resulting protests. The local protests in South Dakota have been peaceful, and the governor says they were “legitimate and raised important concerns.” But in other places people were perpetrating violence in an effort “to shortcut public debates through fear,” she warned. “They want people scared.” She made clear that such behavior wouldn’t be tolerated in South Dakota.

Noem’s steady approach is attracting more national attention. Of course, her critics are still there. Stu Whitney, the media columnist of the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader, dismisses her policy on the virus as “mired in many of the strategies of President Trump” but concedes it has also made her “a darling of right-wing media icons.”
Many Republicans see a future in national politics for her. J. J. Cafaro, a shopping-center developer from Ohio who is a large political donor, is a big fan and says her down-to-earth approach make her a natural. “I’m rarely so impressed with an elected official,” he told me last year. “Newt Gingrich was one, Kristi is another.” Noem has “remarkable future potential,” Corey Lewandowski, who was Donald Trump’s campaign manager for much of 2016, told me. “People will be noticing her.”
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Matamoros · « **Reply #39 on:** June 10, 2020, 09:03:50 PM »

I agree with a lot as far as being good places to live. I have to give the highest weight to the TLM. But equally high for practical purposes is affordability. I live in an expensive liberal cesspool. Decent retirement savings. I turn 59 1/2 in 3.5 years and plan to retire and get out.

Next, I give a higher weight than many might to weather. I can't take blizzards and when it gets to 95 I can't get out much due to health reasons. I can take the cold better but not shoveling 2 feet of know in my golden years.

All the places I like are conservative. Kentucky is a possible exception, at least around Lexington. Not sure about gun laws in Kentucky.

I also want a place with natural beauty and local cultural attractions. Good local food.

I’ve never found a whole state I could recommend, especially if you want an easily available TLM. I’ve focused on areas within states.

If all you care about is a traditional Catholic setting, I’d look at the Coeur d’Alene Idaho to Spokane, Washington corridor. I know – Washington – but there’s lots of TLM activity up there and Idaho is very conservative. The winters are too snowy for me. Beautiful country.

Second place would be St. Marys Kansas – 30 minutes from Topeka and 90 minutes from Kansas City. Kinda remote unless you live closer to Topeka. Cold winters and hot summers but as bad as Oklahoma City. Natural beauty. Not a lot of attractions in Topeka but I've heard they have good chili.

So for the places that are less severe in weather then Idaho and more to do outside of church than St. Marys, I’d recommend the following in order of their attractiveness.

1 - Rapid City, SD – beautiful country, the Badlands, Mount Rushmore, Reptile Gardens, American Indian stuff. Very cold winters but not a lot of snow. Summers are pleasant compared to most places. Daily FSSP Mass, SSPX Mass on Sunday. Affordable.

2 - Tulsa, OK – weather much milder then Oklahoma City, hills, four seasons, long spring. Conservative. Lots of American Indian stuff. Daily FSSP Mass. One hour from Clear Creek Monastery. Affordable.

3 - Oklahoma City – Terrible weather. Tornados. Brutal summers and winters. Conservative. Some American Indian cultural stuff. Daily FSSP Mass in Bethany (suburb) and CMRI on Sundays in another suburb. Affordable.

4 - Lexington Kentucky – the exurbs. KY is conservative. Lexington is crazy. Plus it has hot summers and snowy winters. But it DOES have daily FSSP Mass and its affordable.

Crawdad · « **Reply #40 on:** June 10, 2020, 09:26:32 PM »

Quote from: Matamoros on June 10, 2020, 09:03:50 PM

2 - Tulsa, OK – weather much milder then Oklahoma City, hills, four seasons, long spring. Conservative. Lots of American Indian stuff. Daily FSSP Mass. One hour from Clear Creek Monastery. Affordable.

3 - Oklahoma City – Terrible weather. Tornados. Brutal summers and winters. Conservative. Some American Indian cultural stuff. Daily FSSP Mass in Bethany (suburb) and CMRI on Sundays in another suburb. Affordable.

There's only about 98 miles separating Tulsa and Oklahoma City. That's not enough distance to effect a difference in weather patterns, nor is there enough geography (landscape) difference to cause a big difference in weather. LOL. The same potentially dangerous weather patterns that hit OK City also reach out to Missouri and westward to Tulsa. Remember the Joplin, Missouri F4/5 tornado in 2010 or '11 that wiped out about 90% of the town? So if those ominous patterns afflict Missouri, it'll surely afflict Tulsa.

Matamoros · « **Reply #41 on:** June 10, 2020, 09:41:27 PM »

Quote from: Crawdad on June 10, 2020, 09:26:32 PM

There's only about 98 miles separating Tulsa and Oklahoma City. That's not enough distance to effect a difference in weather patterns, nor is there enough geological (landscape) difference to cause a big difference in weather. LOL. The same potentially dangerous weather patterns that hit OK City also reach out to Missouri and westward to Tulsa. Remember the Joplin, Missouri F4/5 tornado in 2010 or '11 that wiped out about 90% of the town? So if those ominous patterns afflict Missouri, it'll surely afflict Tulsa.

Well there you go.

I guess that will learn me not to put so much weight on them daggone tourist bureau brochures.

Fortunately I should have 2.5 more years to make a decision.

Right now it looks like Rapid City, SD is my only real option.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #42 on:** June 11, 2020, 05:29:51 AM »

None. The church will help the government to relocate terrorists to conservative states

Those restriction on church were intentional.

No where will be safe. Wake up.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #43 on:** June 11, 2020, 05:44:09 AM »

Tennessee was great for the last couple years only recently there is more of huge number of Moslems. We are at war and we have no one defending us.

Bataar · « **Reply #44 on:** June 12, 2020, 10:53:23 PM »

I'm in north Idaho and I love it. Country style living, but close to real cities if needed. I live with 20 minutes of a CMRI church (Fr. Benedict Hughes), an FSSP church and an SSPX church. Mount St. Michael's is in Spokane, about 40 minutes away.

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