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Poll

Which Catholic group do you feel best describes your current stance on the crisis?

Novus Ordo/Indult
3 (4.5%)
SSPX (Bishop Felay)
7 (10.4%)
SSPV (Bishop Kelly, RIP)
5 (7.5%)
Resistance (Bishop Zendejas)
11 (16.4%)
CMRI (Bishop Pivarunas)
8 (11.9%)
RCI (Bishop Sanborn)
8 (11.9%)
Home Alone
7 (10.4%)
I can't pick one
12 (17.9%)
Other
6 (9%)

Total Members Voted: 67

Author Topic: Allignment with which Catholic group.  (Read 3192 times)

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Re: Allignment with which Catholic group.
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2026, 09:51:07 AM »
Gray2023, in the 2 and one half years since you have been on CI I have watched you time and again try to bring peace and unity between the different camps/factions. I know how you must suffer by not knowing which camp is right. Therefore, I am surprised that you have not watched all of Bishop Roy's video. Please do find time to watch it and in addition, please read at least one historical account of the Great Western Schism, (1378-1417).

You have stated: "I have no authority and I am not commanding anyone". It is not true that you have no authority.

We have a DeHarb's Catechism "specially adapted for use in the parochial schools of the United States". On page 4 are listed, The Commandments of the Church. #4. "To confess at least once a year to a duly authorized priest."  Note that it says, "duly authorized priest". This catechism is for children and they are being instructed to only go to a duly authorized priest. That means that children have the authority to decide and make sure (command) that the priest that they go to is duly authorized.

Now if "most of us do not submit to Pope Leo's authority" as your poll shows, that means that our priests most likely are not duly authorized and we are not allowed to go to them until they get duly authorized. This is why our priests should not be opposed to an Imperfect Council. If they are opposed to the council, it is a sure sign that they are in schism. This is what Bishop D'Ailly said at the time of the Great Western Schism, "I know no schismatics save those who...do not want to follow the movement for union." This movement for union was what later became known as an imperfect council and finally became known as the Council of Constance which brought about the restoration of the Papacy.


You should not promote this larper. He is possibly not a Bishop.

Tell him the next time you see him to come to the Resistance Bishops for conditional consecration.

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Re: Allignment with which Catholic group.
« Reply #56 on: Today at 03:27:48 PM »
Gray2023 has done us a great favor in posting this poll. She has posted what the poll most certainly shows: "Most of us do not submit to Pope Leo's authority."

I would like to know if Gray2023 has viewed the 38 minute You tube video by Bishop Roy entitled: "The Need for an Imperfect Council"?
I have viewed the video and I am listening to the questions and answers.   This seems to be what I have been hoping for over the last 16 years. Many prayers.

Does any one know who the 7 bishops who already joined the "movement?" (I don't know what to call it.  An imperfect council worries some people.)


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Open letter to SSPX, + P. Roy Feb. 12, 2026 re: Holy Assembly
« Reply #57 on: Today at 07:12:36 PM »
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https://nuntiatoria.org/2026/04/20/the-mirage-of-an-imperfect-council-authority-illusion-and-the-crisis-of-the-church/
"...Cajetan, writing amid conciliar crises, allows that in extreme necessity the Church may act ministerialiter to preserve her constitution, yet always through those who possess true ecclesiastical standing and authority.⁹ Likewise, Bellarmine insists upon the necessity of a caput visibile et determinatum, a visible and determinate head, without which the Church’s unity cannot be sustained.¹⁰ A claimant whose title is doubtful or only partially received cannot fulfil this office. Their arguments, therefore, do not justify the assembly of bishops lacking ordinary jurisdiction, but rather reinforce the principle that even extraordinary remedies must remain anchored in the Church’s visible and juridical order....

   "What, then, of the Transalpine Redemptorists? Their position introduces a further layer of complexity. Historically aligned with the Society of St. Pius X, subsequently reconciled with the Holy See, and now engaged in public dispute with ecclesiastical authorities, they occupy a liminal position within the Church: canonically recognised, yet increasingly critical of the structures to which they remain juridically bound. Their apparent openness to similar ideas of episcopal initiative does not arise from sedevacantist premises, as in the case of Bishop Roy, but from a growing disillusionment within a recognise-and-resist framework. Yet the theological difficulty remains unchanged. Canonical status does not confer the authority to convene a council or to substitute for the structures of the universal Church, and any such attempt risks not reform but rupture.

   It must, however, be noted in fairness that His Excellency, Bishop Pierre Roy does not advance the proposal in a crude or precipitous form. He explicitly distances himself from any immediate attempt to act, cautioning against “jumping” directly to the convocation of a council or the election of a pontiff,..."

, “any papal election… is in doubt if the universal Church does not accept this election,” thereby underscoring that the Church, as a visible society, must recognise her head in a manner that is clear, certain, and universal.⁵
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This is not about the Imperfect council, but related, sortof...

https://kokxnews.substack.com/p/bishop-pierre-roy-calls-on-sspx-to



"...to give full meaning to the words spoken by the superiors of your community in 1988: “On the other hand, we have never wanted to belong to this system which calls itself the Conciliar Church and defines itself by the Novus Ordo Missæ, indifferentist ecuмenism, and the secularization of the whole Society. Yes, we have no part, nullam partem habemus, in the pantheon of religions of Assisi.”
    For too long now, souls have been led to believe that the faithful and the unfaithful can coexist indefinitely within the Church; that those who profess the true Faith can tolerate the promoters of heresy within the Church. This situation must end. Your Fraternity represents the majority of clerics of Tradition. You have a role to play in gathering your brothers into a holy assembly that will finally officially reject the promoters of heresy from within the Church. Your role is not to hold discussions with someone who presents himself as the guardian of the doctrine of the Faith but who is in reality one of its many gravediggers, as he recently demonstrated by denying the Virgin Mary, our Mother in Heaven, her titles of Mediatrix and Co-Redemptrix.







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Re: Allignment with which Catholic group.
« Reply #59 on: Today at 07:28:15 PM »
Dunno really, new to me.:
here is a hint... top right corner of the Home page.