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Re: Advice on immodest adult daughter
« Reply #10 on: Today at 08:23:29 PM »
Yes we have other children in the house. In fact we brought this up numerous times with her regarding the scandal and confusion caused.

To the other, we didn't remove her because she has no place to go realistically and her removal would have led to even greater evils as far as I can judge.
Just spitballing here with no experience in this field, but could you toss the immodest clothing?  That might drive home that you won't allow it in your house without having to resort to making her leave

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Re: Advice on immodest adult daughter
« Reply #11 on: Today at 08:25:49 PM »
Just spitballing here with no experience in this field, but could you toss the immodest clothing?  That might drive home that you won't allow it in your house without having to resort to making her leave

That brings up a question -- where did she get shorts, pants, etc.? Did her mom buy them for her? Relatives? Did she buy them herself with her own money? etc.


Re: Advice on immodest adult daughter
« Reply #12 on: Today at 08:33:30 PM »
One can have the best intentions for a son or daughter and raise them in the most traditional of Catholic environments...yet
for some the truth of our faith only becomes a conviction after spending some time immersed in the world and its illusions. 
Some of us need to be humbled again and again after trying my will be done instead of thy will be done. 
Even as someone who grew up in the novus ordo and rejected it all by 8th grade there was still some vestige of faith
which provided an impulse to keep searching for the truth. It wasn't until I was in my 30's that I discovered there was such
a thing as the TLM!
Our society encourages us to try every imaginable gimmick to be happy or improve our lives. This ranges from therapy, diets, healing crystals, self help books, meditation, or pursuing some materialistic fantasy. Literally anything but the very thing that actually works, the rosary. 
So, don't give up hope. The youth of Sodom probably had fewer temptations than this generation. Imagine that until just a couple hundred years ago there was no such thing as advertising, no screens, no multi billion dollar industries created to corrupt your soul. 
 

Re: Advice on immodest adult daughter
« Reply #13 on: Today at 08:34:17 PM »
Since only you know your daughter and the particular circuмstances more than any of us, I wish to share some Catholic principles which I have confidence you and your wife have the prudence and charity to properly implement. I am deeply interested in psychology and can also offer some ideas that may or may not apply to your daughter.

Your family is in my prayers.

Sin has always been regarded by the Church as the only true evil. We must be willing to sacrifice everything temporal to avoid sin, and the proximate occasions of sin. This also applies to those under our care, in that we must be willing to punish in a way that results in temporal losses, if that is the only way to effect a cure of the evil.


What is the greater evil: the harm done to your other children along with your daughter's obstinacy, or her being forced to face reality by a severe punishment?

Extreme measures seem to be the only option at this point, if she is truly doing this through malice, rather than some other motive. Women often continue in their wicked behaviour despite threats, because they do not believe the threats were made seriously. Perhaps if you begin packing her bags, she would come to her senses. Alternatively, maybe you could make a campfire and burn all of her immodest clothing in front of her. The key is, to do something that would make a deep impression, deep enough to bring her back to the Faith (that is, again, if this would truly be the only way to bring her amendment. Using reason and gentleness is always to be preferred, if circuмstances permit). As the father, you have authority from God to do everything you can to ensure His holy law is observed. 

On the other hand, women are sometimes rebellious, particularly towards men in their lives who have authority, because of a hidden resentment or feeling of betrayal. In the case where a father was unjust at some point in the child's life, this can make the daughter lose all respect for the father; it could be something from many years ago that was never resolved. Perhaps you can request that she have a one on one with you, present yourself humbly and meekly, and make her feel safe with your words and actions, to the point where she feels she can open up to you, to have a heart to heart. Your wife could also do the same with her, and this would give her that sense of safety, that her parents are united in desiring her welfare. She must understand and be convinced, that at the root of your orders, is a desire for her welfare. In my experience, children with this type of rebellion and anger as I have described, deep down, do not feel loved by their parents, and are more moved to amend themselves through knowledge of this love, than through fear.


Re: Advice on immodest adult daughter
« Reply #14 on: Today at 09:58:27 PM »
1. Set boundaries. If she is going to live under your roof she has to follow the rules. 
2. Sounds like she is fully aware of Catholic Modesty. Don't remind her or explain it to her. She is 20 years old not 7.
3. gather her immodest belongings without her and destroy them. Do it without her or notifying her. Keep her guessing what happen to her skinny jeans.
4. Her cell phone: only allow a cell phone that is under your name and the account is under your control. 
5. Do not allow your self to argue/verbally fight. Say very little, very clear words.
6. 1-2x per week prepare a 5min allocution to the family. Use this time to read from a saint your kids can relate to. Or St. John Bosco's 40 dreams.
7. Take interest in what she is doing: work, hobbies, etc. Make this the the predominate interaction you have with her vs. nagging about how she dresses.
8. Pray and fast for her.

Of course she will try undermine most of your efforts. But if you make the home environment pleasant and do not engage in verbal fights, she will respond better.