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Offline Soubirous

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Re: Adiaphora
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 08:39:38 PM »
[... ]if you offend the rules of traddism and of 1950s suburbian sensibilities, according to them you're a heretic and a quite simply a bad Catholic.
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Adiophoron: An indifferent matter.
(philosophy) A matter that is morally neutral.
(theology) Something neither forbidden nor commanded by the Christian religion.

There are many things in the world which are adiophora, here's an image with plenty of them:



The crucial part is this: take almost any of those, and you will see the Catholic Church has either never spoken about it or if it has it has always left the governing principles broad enough [...] The Church is Universal after all.

All of this is to say: whether you like uptempo, you like sanrio aesthetics, you're a gun nut, a biker, a speedrunner, a crypto enthusiast, an anime watcher or any other unusual thing under the sun, don't ever let anyone tell you that you're a bad tradcath solely on account of that. Your sins are whenever you break the ten commandments or do one of the seven capital sins, not whenever you commit what to trads is uncomfortable or a faux-pas

Please explain how family roles, family values, beliefs and assumptions, relation to authority, gender roles, rules of conduct, pride, concept of justice, notions of modesty, etc., are all examples of "indifferent matter" that is "morally neutral" and "neither forbidden nor commanded by the Christian religion".

Further, is natural law one of those 1950s suburban sensibilities or, conversely, is it negotiable and open to subjective/situational interpretation?

Re: Adiaphora
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 09:35:41 PM »
If I may add just another, in my opinion, poignant example, many a trad will have no problem with someone or even themselves watching Braveheart, The Name of the Rose, Apocalypto, The Sopranos, etc. despite containing very explicit sex scenes or nudity. But let a tradcath say he's a brony and likes to watch My Little Pony and they will react as if he just admitted to being a Calvinist!
Genuinely, I don't think a single person here would say it's OK to view the scenes you are referencing in those movies. It's legitimate pornography. Except maybe Apocalypto IMO. That's more like "cultural nudity", if you will, and brief. But even that's iffy. 

It might be weird for an adult male to watch My Little Pony, but it's not even within the realm of viewing porn


Offline MaterDominici

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Re: Adiaphora
« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:12:43 AM »
Reminds me of something I came across a few days ago... it roughly said:
"I don't know who needs to hear this, but you're not the only homeschooler who has never made sourdough." :smirk:

I think you're conflating something being popular among tradcaths vs. it being universal. Most people are followers, so it's not hard for certain traits to become popular and seem to define the group.