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  • St. Robert Bellarmine and St. Alphonsus Liguori teach that the Council of Trent Session 6, Chapter 4 teaches Baptism of Desire.  They were not modernists.

    Tell us something we don't know.  No, they were not Modernists, but they were not gods, not infallible, and not even popes.  Some of us respectfully disagree.  They disagree with one another on some things.

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  • Quote from St. Augustine Sermon 27.6

    How many rascals are saved by being baptized on their deathbeds?  And how many sincere catechumens die unbaptized and are thus lost forever!...When we shall have come into the sight of God, we shall behold the equity of His justice.   At that time, no one will say :  "Why did he help this one and not that one?  Why was this man led by God's direction to be baptized, while this man,   though he live properly as a catechumen, was killed in a sudden disaster and not baptized?"  Look for rewards and you will find nothing but punishments!....For of what use would repentance be, even before Baptism, if Baptism did not follow?...No matter what progress a catechumen may make, he still carries the burden of iniquity, and it is not taken away until he has been baptized. 
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."


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  • Quote from St. Augustine Sermon 27.6

    "How many rascals are saved by being baptized on their deathbeds?  And how many sincere catechumens die unbaptized and are thus lost forever!...When we shall have come into the sight of God, we shall behold the equity of His justice.   At that time, no one will say :  "Why did he help this one and not that one?  Why was this man led by God's direction to be baptized, while this man,   though he live properly as a catechumen, was killed in a sudden disaster and not baptized?"  Look for rewards and you will find nothing but punishments!....For of what use would repentance be, even before Baptism, if Baptism did not follow?...No matter what progress a catechumen may make, he still carries the burden of iniquity, and it is not taken away until he has been baptized."

    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."

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    « Reply #78 on: March 02, 2020, 04:40:35 AM »
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  • Quote from St. Augustine Sermon 27.6

    "How many rascals are saved by being baptized on their deathbeds?  And how many sincere catechumens die unbaptized and are thus lost forever!...When we shall have come into the sight of God, we shall behold the equity of His justice.   At that time, no one will say :  "Why did he help this one and not that one?  Why was this man led by God's direction to be baptized, while this man,   though he live properly as a catechumen, was killed in a sudden disaster and not baptized?"  Look for rewards and you will find nothing but punishments!....For of what use would repentance be, even before Baptism, if Baptism did not follow?...No matter what progress a catechumen may make, he still carries the burden of iniquity, and it is not taken away until he has been baptized."

    Indeed, some of the strongest anti-BoD statements in existence come from St. Augustine ... after he had matured in the faith by battling the Pelagians and Donatists.  Tragically, this was not known to the early scholastics and to St. Bernard, so they kept mistakenly relying on Augustine's "authority" on the matter to learn towards accepting BoD.  But God allowed this to happen.  Without this BoD doctrine, there could not be this Crisis in the Church, since the false soteriology and ecclesiology could never have achieved a foothold in Catholic theology.

    This sermon explains the origins of BoD speculation (as confirmed by another Father ... I forget which one).  People saw sincere and dedicated catechumens dying before Baptism and other "rascals ... baptized on their deathbeds," who had put off Baptism so they could continue living in sin.  This was "emotional theology" ... not deriving from rational syllogisms from revealed doctrine, but rather from an emotional sense of "that's not fair."  This thinking St. Augustine elsewhere condemned as leading to a "vortex of confusion".

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    Re: Who Can be Saved? By Card Avery Dulles
    « Reply #79 on: March 02, 2020, 05:05:44 AM »
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  • St. Alphonsus Liguori (1696-1787)
    Theologia Moralis, Tomos Quintus

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    Now it is de fide that men are also saved by Baptism of desire, by virtue of the Canon Apostolicam, “de presbytero non baptizato” and of the Council of Trent, session 6, Chapter 4 where it is said that no one can be saved “without the laver of regeneration or the desire for it.”

    Whenever you post St. Alphonsus teaching a BOD, you should also include his own rebuttal to that teaching:

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    From:  (An Exposition and Defence of All the Points of Faith Discussed and Defined by the Sacred Council of Trent, Along With the Refutation of the Errors of the Pretended Reformers, Saint Alphonsus Liguori, Dublin, 1846.)

    The heretics say that no sacrament is necessary, inasmuch as they hold that man is justified by faith alone, and that the sacraments only serve to excite and nourish this faith, which (as they say) can be equally excited and nourished by preaching.  But this is certainly false, and is condemned in the fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth canons:  for as we know from the Scriptures, some of the sacraments are necessary as a means without which salvation is impossible. Thus Baptism is necessary for all, Penance for them who have fallen into sin after Baptism, and the Eucharist is necessary for all at least in desire.
    FWIW, St. Alphonsus is mistaken simply because Trent's 6th Session Chapter 4 does not say what he said it says - he made a mistake when he quoted that particular teaching because Trent does not say that "no one can be saved...", rather, Trent says that no one can be justified without the laver or desire thereof. The great St. Alphonsus is mistaken is all, as you can plainly see below in Session 6, Chapter 4:

    Session 6
    DECREE ON JUSTIFICATION [not salvation]

    CHAPTER IV.
    A description is introduced of the Justification of the impious, and of the Manner thereof under the law of grace.

    By which words, a description of the Justification of the impious is indicated,-as being a translation, from that state wherein man is born a child of the first Adam, to the state of grace, and of the adoption of the sons of God, through the second Adam, Jesus Christ, our Saviour. And this translation, since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof, as it is written; unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.

    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: Who Can be Saved? By Card Avery Dulles
    « Reply #80 on: March 06, 2020, 07:40:29 PM »
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  • Tell us something we don't know.  No, they were not Modernists, but they were not gods, not infallible, and not even popes.  Some of us respectfully disagree.  They disagree with one another on some things.
    I was addressing Patristic Ew's assertion that interpreting "desire" as BOD in the Catechism of Trent and other writings was an interpretation started by modernists, and that the decrees of Trent teach differently.  My point was to show that that assertion regarding modernists was not true, as, whatever interpretations modernists have, great saints and doctors of the Church interpret the decrees of Trent themselves as teaching BOD.
     "The faithful should obey the apostolic advice not to know more than is necessary, but to know in moderation." - Pope Clement XIII, In Dominico Agro (1761) 

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    Re: Who Can be Saved? By Card Avery Dulles
    « Reply #81 on: March 06, 2020, 07:43:06 PM »
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  • Quote from St. Augustine Sermon 27.6

    "How many rascals are saved by being baptized on their deathbeds?  And how many sincere catechumens die unbaptized and are thus lost forever!...When we shall have come into the sight of God, we shall behold the equity of His justice.   At that time, no one will say :  "Why did he help this one and not that one?  Why was this man led by God's direction to be baptized, while this man,   though he live properly as a catechumen, was killed in a sudden disaster and not baptized?"  Look for rewards and you will find nothing but punishments!....For of what use would repentance be, even before Baptism, if Baptism did not follow?...No matter what progress a catechumen may make, he still carries the burden of iniquity, and it is not taken away until he has been baptized."
    That's a fraudulent quote.  It's a bunch of sentences strung together from different places, none of which are from St. Augustine's Sermon 27.
     "The faithful should obey the apostolic advice not to know more than is necessary, but to know in moderation." - Pope Clement XIII, In Dominico Agro (1761) 

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    Re: Who Can be Saved? By Card Avery Dulles
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  • Whenever you post St. Alphonsus teaching a BOD, you should also include his own rebuttal to that teaching:
    FWIW, St. Alphonsus is mistaken simply because Trent's 6th Session Chapter 4 does not say what he said it says - he made a mistake when he quoted that particular teaching because Trent does not say that "no one can be saved...", rather, Trent says that no one can be justified without the laver or desire thereof. The great St. Alphonsus is mistaken is all, as you can plainly see below in Session 6, Chapter 4:

    Session 6
    DECREE ON JUSTIFICATION [not salvation]

    CHAPTER IV.
    A description is introduced of the Justification of the impious, and of the Manner thereof under the law of grace.

    By which words, a description of the Justification of the impious is indicated,-as being a translation, from that state wherein man is born a child of the first Adam, to the state of grace, and of the adoption of the sons of God, through the second Adam, Jesus Christ, our Saviour. And this translation, since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof, as it is written; unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.
    St. Alphonsus was not rebutting BOD in this commentary.  He teaches BOD as part of this very same commentary, in the very next paragraph.


    An Exposition and Defence of All the Points of Faith Discussed and Defined by the Sacred Council of Trent, Along With the Refutation of the Errors of the Pretended Reformers 
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    11. Can. 4: Si quis dixerit sacramenta novae legis non esse ad salutem necessaria, sed superflua; et sine eis aut eorum voto per solam fidem homines a Deo gratiam justificationis adipisci, licet omnia singulis necessaria non siut, anathema sit." 

    12. The heretics say that no sacrament is necessary, inasmuch as they hold that man is justified by faith alone, and that the sacraments only serve to excite and nourish this faith, which (as they say) can be equally excited and nourished by preaching.  But this is certainly false, and is condemned in the fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth canons: for as we know from the Scriptures, some of the sacraments are necessary (necessitate Medii) as a means without which salvation is impossible.  Thus Baptism is necessary for all, Penance for them who have fallen into sin after Baptism, and the Eucharist is necessary for all at least in desire (in voto).

    13. Soave says that at least the implicit desire of Baptism (the same holds for penance in regards to sinners) appeared to many of the fathers not to be necessary for justification: because Cornelius and the good thief were justified without having any knowledge of Baptism.  But, Pallavicini says that this is a mere dream of Soave: for the theologians of Trent could not have adduced the example of Cornelius or of the good thief in defence of such an opinion, when everyone knew that the obligation of Baptism did not commence till after the death of the Saviour, and after the promulgation of the Gospel.  Besides, who can deny that the act of perfect love of God, which is sufficient for justification, includes an implicit desire of Baptism, of Penance and of the Eucharist.  He who wishes the whole, wishes every part of that whole, and all the means for its attainment.  In order to be justified without Baptism, an infidel must love God above all things and must have a universal will to observe the divine precepts, among which the first is to receive Baptism: and therefore in order to be justified it is necessary for him to have at least an implicit desire of that sacrament. For it is certain that to such desire is ascribed the spiritual regeneration of a person who has not been baptized, and the remission of sins to baptized persons who have contrition, is likewise ascribed to the explicit or implicit desire of sacramental absolution.

    14. In the fourth canon the words licet omnia singulis necessaria non sint, were afterwards inserted.  By this canon it was intended to condemn Luther, who asserts that none of the sacraments is absolutely necessary for salvation, because as has been already said, he ascribed all salvation to faith, and nothing to the efficacy of the sacraments.
     "The faithful should obey the apostolic advice not to know more than is necessary, but to know in moderation." - Pope Clement XIII, In Dominico Agro (1761) 


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    Re: Who Can be Saved? By Card Avery Dulles
    « Reply #83 on: March 06, 2020, 08:24:33 PM »
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  • St Alphonsus is free to give his opinion on how justification works, but he's contrary to Trent, which gave the Church the clear requirements.  A Doctor of the Church CANNOT EVER add to, or edit Church teachings.  Trent is quite clear on the requirements, preparations and beliefs required for justification and baptism.  There's really nothing to add to the discussion; it's all there.

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  • That's a fraudulent quote.  It's a bunch of sentences strung together from different places, none of which are from St. Augustine's Sermon 27.
    If this is so, please quote the whole sermon
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."

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  • If this is so, please quote the whole sermon


    https://www.cathinfo.com/baptism-of-desire-and-feeneyism/will-be-interested-to-hear-thoughts-on-this-new-bodbob-book/msg634706/#msg634706


    Augustine the Bishop by F. Van der Meer

    pgs. 149 - 150

    7. Day-to-Day Pastoral Work

    (. . .)

    The Indifferent

    (. . .)

    Augustine never sought to make easy excuses for those who kept putting off baptism. Some did this from indifference and through the lack of any serious element in their dispositions, some from that peculiar laziness which Augustine had himself had occasion to observe in his own father Patricius, for Patricius, after being a catechumen for many years, was only baptized in 371, when he was actually on his death-bed and Augustine himself was already seventeen years of age.(94) There were others who pointed to some baptized blockhead, who was a scoundrel in the bargain, and haughtily demanded whether they were not better men than he. Augustine's comment on these occasions was that Christ himself had been baptized "for the sake of the proud men who were still to come".

    "It often happens that a catechumen knows more of his religion and leads a better life than many others who have been baptized. He sees how badly instructed a baptized person can often be and that his way of life is often much less recollected and much less chaste than his own. He himself never thinks of women, yet he sees Christians, who, while remaining innocent of actual adultery, practice little self control toward their wives. Even so, no man has a right to puff himself up and say, 'Why should I be baptized? Why should I desire desire to partake of something that happens to be possessed by another who is my inferior both in the matter of conduct and knowledge? The Lord will answer him, 'How much is he thy inferior? As much as those art mine? Or is perhaps the servant greater than the master?' ".(95)

    In most cases the motive for avoiding baptism lay in the desire of such men not to be bound. They wanted to be free to sin and then get rid of their sins cheaply and all at once when the appropriate moment came. Augustine did not mince matters in this connection. They think, he said, that as catechumens they can make light of their adulteries, and then have the effrontery to compare themselves with the woman in the Temple who "also was not condemned".(96)

    This whole evil was one with which Augustine never wearied in doing battle. Even the anniversary of his consecration found him in fighting mood. I care naught, he cried out on this occasion, that today of all the days you expect to hear something pleasant from me. I must warn you in the words of Holy Scripture: "Defer it not from day to day, for his wrath shall come on a sudden." God knows that I tremble in my cathedra myself when I hear those words. I must not, I cannot be silent. I am compelled to preach to you on this matter and "to make you fearful, being myself full of fear".(97)

    How dangerous, he says, is is every delay! How many rascals are saved by being baptized on their death on their death-beds? And how many earnest catechumens die unbaptized?--which, for Augustine, is equivalent to saying that they are lost for ever.(98 ) He compares the carefree condition of mind that such people often display with the dread sleeping-sickness of an old man, who keeps on saying "Let me sleep", although the doctor keeps warning those around him that sleep is the one thing he must not do. And do not make it a reproach to me, he continues, that I disturb your peace of mind. How can I comfort you when the threat comes from God himself? For I am but the steward, not the father of the house.(99) "You say, 'I will do it later, I will do it tomorrow. Why do you frighten us? Have we not been promised forgiveness?' Yes, forgiveness is promised you, but it has been promised to you that you shall see tomorrow."


    Notes from pg. 613

    95. IP, 90, 2, 6.
    96. DSI, 20, 6.
    97. FSA, 2, 7 and 8; see Ecclus. v.8-9
    98. SE, 27, 6.
    99. FSA, 2, 8b-9

    Abbrevations can be found starting on page XI, in the front of the book.

    IP = Enarrationes in Psalmos
    DSI = Denis, Sancti Aurelii Augustini Sermones Inediti
    FSA = Frangipane, Sancti Aurelii Augustini Hipponensis Episcopi Sermones X
    SE = Sermones



    Note 95, Exposition on Psalm 90:

    http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1801090.htm


    Note 96 text, Jesuit, Michael Denis:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=oGg7WvZhAckC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false


    Note 97 and 99 text, Dom Frangipane:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=gdZLAAAAcAAJ&pg=PP7&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false


    Note 98 refers to Sermon 27 which I already posted:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/baptism-of-desire-and-feeneyism/will-be-interested-to-hear-thoughts-on-this-new-bodbob-book/msg634012/#msg634012
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.


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    Re: Who Can be Saved? By Card Avery Dulles
    « Reply #86 on: March 06, 2020, 10:38:26 PM »
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    The words are Fr. Meer's, a paraphrase of St. Augustine's Sermon 27.

    Fr. Meer:

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    How dangerous, he says, is is every delay! How many rascals are saved by being baptized on their death on their death-beds? And how many earnest catechumens die unbaptized?

    St. Augustine:


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    "Why did he come to the help of this one and not that one? Why was this one steered by God's guiding hand to get baptized, while that other one who had lived a good life as a catechumen suddenly collapsed and died, without ever reaching baptism? That other one again, who lived such a vicious life, as a lecher, as an adulterer, as a play-actor, as a bullfighter, fell ill, was baptized, departed this life, and in him sin was overcome, in him sin was eliminated-why?"

    Look for desserts, and all you will find is punishment. Look for grace-Oh the depth of the riches! Peter denies, the thief believes-Oh the depth of the riches! (Rom 11:33).
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    The words of St. Augustine are more forceful, the entirety of Sermon 27 deals with justice and unfairness. The word delay is not mentioned, there is no exposition about deferring Baptism.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=Z3XYAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

    It's from pages 104 to 110, including the notes.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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  • That's a fraudulent quote.  It's a bunch of sentences strung together from different places, none of which are from St. Augustine's Sermon 27.

    None?


    https://books.google.com/books?id=Z3XYAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Sermons II (20-50) on the Old Testament

    pgs. 107-108


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    Sermon 27

    6.

    (. . .)

    So then, in this life let us hold on tight to the deformed Christ. What do I mean, the deformed Christ? Far be it from me to boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world (Gal 6:14). That's the deformity of Christ. Did I ever say I knew anything among you, except the road? This is the road, to believe in the crucified. We carry the sign of this deformity on our foreheads. Let us not be ashamed of this deformity of Christ. Let us hold to the way, and we shall arrive at the sight. When we arrive at the sight, we shall see the equal-handedness of God. And no longer will there be any occasion to say there,

    "Why did he come to the help of this one and not that one? Why was this one steered by God's guiding hand to get baptized, while that other one who had lived a good life as a catechumen suddenly collapsed and died, without ever reaching baptism? That other one again, who lived such a vicious life, as a lecher, as an adulterer, as a play-actor, as a bullfighter, fell ill, was baptized, departed this life, and in him sin was overcome, in him sin was eliminated-why?"

    Look for desserts, and all you will find is punishment.
    Look for grace-Oh the depth of the riches! Peter denies, the thief believes-Oh the depth of the riches! (Rom 11:33).

    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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  • St. Alphonsus was not rebutting BOD in this commentary.  He teaches BOD as part of this very same commentary, in the very next paragraph.


    An Exposition and Defence of All the Points of Faith Discussed and Defined by the Sacred Council of Trent, Along With the Refutation of the Errors of the Pretended Reformers.
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    14. In the fourth canon the words licet omnia singulis necessaria non sint, were afterwards inserted.  By this canon it was intended to condemn Luther, who asserts that none of the sacraments is absolutely necessary for salvation, because as has been already said, he ascribed all salvation to faith, and nothing to the efficacy of the sacraments.



    https://www.cathinfo.com/baptism-of-desire-and-feeneyism/condemned-savation-for-good-willed-ignorant-pagans/msg662772/#msg662772


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    Council of Trent 1545-1563
    Canons on the Sacraments in General: - (Canon 4):
       "If anyone shall say that the sacraments of the New Law are not necessary for salvation, but are superfluous, and that although all are not necessary for every individual, without them or without the desire of them (sine eis aut eorum voto),
    through faith alone men obtain from God the grace of justification; let him be anathema."



    Bernard Of Clairvaux: On Baptism And The Office of the Bishops, pgs. 159 - 160

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    8. It would be hard, believe me, to tear me away from these two pillars--I mean Augustine and Ambrose. I own to going along with them in wisdom or in error, for I too believe that a person can be saved by faith alone, through the desire to receive the sacrament, but only if such a one is forestalled by death or prevented by some other insuperable force from implementing this devout desire. Perhaps this was why the Savior, when he said: Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, took care not to repeat 'whoever is not baptized', but only, whoever does not believe will be condemned, imitating strongly that faith is sometimes sufficient for salvation and that without it nothing suffices. 
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.