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Author Topic: What BODers do NOT Believe  (Read 5621 times)

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Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2017, 11:56:51 AM »
LoT, if you fancy yourself a teacher then I, the uninstructed, must tell you that you are wrong.  You are not easily understood.  You post endless quotes and do not plug them into any context.  You do not explain anything in plain english.  You don't weave your quotes into any sort of whole cloth of understanding.

I think, rather, that you post these quotes to try desperately to convince yourself that you are right and that Pax Vobis, for instance, cannnot possibly be so.

But I don't want to malign you.  I do think, though, that you should avoid trying to instruct the ignorant until you yourself are clear about what you believe, why, and can present it properly.
Now THIS was clear, very measured, very even…

… and out of all the much more viable targets THIS got a downvote, speaking of "confusing".

(@@)

Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2017, 11:59:39 AM »
<<Why would a teaching care if the uninstructed tells him he is wrong apart from being concerned for the uninstructed?  Mary sat at the feet of the Master.  You would stand up and tell him He was wrong.>>

You misunderstand.  I said you are wrong about being a teacher.  I did not say your "teaching" is wrong.

But since you equate yourself with Our Lord, I can tell you that yours is not the voice of Truth.
I make it very clear I am not a teacher.  That is why I rely an authoritative sources that the Feeneyites despise.  After reading your first response I realize you were not being malicious.  Are you one of the charitable feeneyites?  I'm sorry for my sarcastic response.


Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2017, 03:26:20 PM »
The letter from the Holy Office in 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston (here) clearly states,


The circuмstances surrounding the excommunication were printed in an article in "The Catholic Advance" on February 27, 1953, which can be seen here. Pope Pius XII made three separate requests for Father Feeney to come to Rome. Clearly this meeting was to be about Father Feeney's denial of a Catholic doctrine, but when he did not show for the hearing, this was the final straw.
The "letter" so called was a political favor called for by Cushing because Feeney and others were exposing the heretical activities and teaching at Boston College and because Father Feeney was making converts at Harvard that were controversial.
Although the "straw that broke the camel's back" his public preaching against the Jews who Cushing went to great lengths to please and cater to.
He was embarrassed by these events and put the call in to his friends in Rome to have Father Feeney censured. He had influence among the Modernists and it was done.

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Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2017, 03:51:09 PM »
All your double negatives make you post more confusing that it normally is.
As regards the negative tenor of the dogma EENS....

"The negative tenor of these definitions is to warn that any word, or artifice, or attenuation, which relieves every individual of the human race from the obligation of joining the Roman Catholic Church is condemned as contrary to divine prescription." - Fr. Wathen from Who Shall Ascend?

Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2017, 05:56:11 PM »
No he was not. Get you facts straight or develop enough good will to be honest.
J.Paul: It is impossible for LoT to be honest when it comes to Father Leonard Feeney; he has a blind hatred for this priest and cannot even bring himself to judge that that this priest might have been in good faith when he opined about BOD.