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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Last Gospel of the Mass declares no one can be born again
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2023, 04:02:07 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on March 15, 2023, 08:08:02 AM
I always took the Last Gospel to mean that we cannot save ourselves.  That we must have the gift of Faith which only comes from God....not from our will or another's will and not from our lineage.

Well, I think that the primary meaning is the same as the famous "born again" passages, where there are two types of birth, a natural birth and a supernatural, and this passage distinguishes between the two.  But I do find the references to not by blood, not by the will to be very suggestive.  These words were written by the Holy Ghost and likely have several layers of depth and meaning.
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Offline gemmarose

Re: The Last Gospel of the Mass declares no one can be born again
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2023, 04:24:44 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 15, 2023, 03:57:04 PM
It's not even close to the Dimonds' "style".  He has similar beliefs about there not being BoD, but that's the only similarity I see there to this point.
Thanks. You are correct he's not a Dimond follower. I believe he was against BOD years before mhfm came on the scene. My understanding is he believes BOD is at the root of our problems today, considering BOD really means salvation in false religions. Finally, mhfm never mentioned any of the things of his I posted yesterday, and I found their followers go out of their way to say the catechism of Trent teaches BOD. 



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Offline CatholicInAmerica

Re: The Last Gospel of the Mass declares no one can be born again
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2023, 05:31:35 PM »
Lol only on Cathinfo can you cite the Catholic interpretation of the last Gospel by Aquinas and get downvoted :fryingpan:
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Offline CatholicInAmerica

Re: The Last Gospel of the Mass declares no one can be born again
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2023, 05:41:05 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 15, 2023, 03:57:04 PM
It's not even close to the Dimonds' "style".  He has similar beliefs about there not being BoD, but that's the only similarity I see there to this point.
By Dimond style I meant picking a scriptural quote and assigning an erroneous interpretation. Which they do constantly. 
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Offline CatholicInAmerica

Re: The Last Gospel of the Mass declares no one can be born again
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2023, 05:42:16 PM »
Quote from: gemmarose on March 15, 2023, 03:41:02 PM
@1Friarminor is definitely not a dimondite! Read how most in that group hate him. Sanguinibus, according to Friar, historically meant bƖσσdshɛd. If you know Latin better than him please show that it never meant that. Thanks!
This is from Aquinas, I’ll trust Aquinas Latin over a Twitter feenyite who erroneously interprets scripture. 
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