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Possible strict-EENS chapel
« on: May 19, 2025, 09:04:20 PM »
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    • Saints Peter and Paul Chapel in York, PA.

    Looks like the priest there is Fr. Samuel Waters, apparently conditionally ordained by +Williamson 

    http://saintspeterandpaulrcm.com/



    Several sections taken from the "Weekly Bulletins" section (Ladislaus is cited in the third :cowboy:):









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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #1 on: May 19, 2025, 09:18:25 PM »
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    But rest assured, Fr. Waters is no longer just a "Novus Ordo" priest.  Because of the unjust action of Bishop Chaput that cast public doubt upon the validity of Fr. Waters ordination, Fr. Waters was ordained conditionally in 2014 according to the "received and approved rites customarily used in the solemn administration of the sacraments", as dogmatized from the Council of Trent, by Bishop Richard Williamson who was likewise ordained a priest and consecrated a bishop in the "received and approved rites" of the Catholic Church by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. It is the use of the "received and approved rites" whereby a minister establishes that his intent is to "do what the Church does" which is necessary for sacramental validity.  Fr. Samuel Waters’ orders are most certainly valid unlike every other Novus Ordo priest where the ordaining intention of the minister now must always be examined and sometimes viewed with grave suspicion. 




    Fr. Waters. Nomen est omen? God Bless him!
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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #2 on: May 19, 2025, 10:14:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on May 19, 2025, 09:18:25 PM




    Fr. Waters. Nomen est omen? God Bless him!
    If they accept prevost as pope they either deny EENS or deny indefectibility and infallibility 

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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #3 on: May 19, 2025, 10:48:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Predestination2 on May 19, 2025, 10:14:12 PM
    If they accept prevost as pope they either deny EENS or deny indefectibility and infallibility
    :sleep:
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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #4 on: May 19, 2025, 11:10:21 PM »
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    • I'm having to wonder if this was once an Orthodox church building.  Those domes are quite unusual, and there's just something about the architecture, both interior and exterior, that seems to indicate that.  This said, it would be kind of odd for there to have been an Orthodox church in a smallish city in southeastern Pennsylvania (northeastern and southwestern, no, southeastern, yes).

    Here's another view:

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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #5 on: May 20, 2025, 02:02:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on May 19, 2025, 10:48:06 PM
    :sleep:
    So you are a heretic. Got it. Don’t let the door hit you on the way down (To hell).
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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #6 on: May 20, 2025, 07:11:32 AM »
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    • Quote from: Predestination2 on May 20, 2025, 02:02:28 AM
    So you are a heretic. Got it. Don’t let the door hit you on the way down (To hell).
    :sleep::sleep:
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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #7 on: May 20, 2025, 07:19:23 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on May 19, 2025, 11:10:21 PM
    I'm having to wonder if this was once an Orthodox church building.  Those domes are quite unusual, and there's just something about the architecture, both interior and exterior, that seems to indicate that.  This said, it would be kind of odd for there to have been an Orthodox church in a smallish city in southeastern Pennsylvania (northeastern and southwestern, no, southeastern, yes).

    Here's another view:


    Apparently it used to be a ѕуηαgσgυє

    https://yorkblog.com/yorktownsquare/abraham-lincoln-at-hanover-junction-in-1863-and-today/


    Hopefully they checked for tunnels...
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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #8 on: May 20, 2025, 11:56:56 AM »
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    • This is a recent picture after 21 years of restorations inside and out.

    http://saintspeterandpaulrcm.com/index.htm

    Below, The Mission Statement and Membership Pledge
    http://saintspeterandpaulrcm.com/MISSION%20STATEMENT%20MEMBRSHIP%20PLEDGE.htm

    And Open Letters:
    http://saintspeterandpaulrcm.com/open_letters.htm
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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #9 on: December 08, 2025, 04:18:44 PM »
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    • Revisiting this...
    Has anyone been here? Only true-EENS chapel east of Louisville, KY..as far as I know!


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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #10 on: December 08, 2025, 04:36:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on December 08, 2025, 04:18:44 PM
    Revisiting this...
    Has anyone been here? Only true-EENS chapel east of Louisville, KY..as far as I know!
    And yet, are you aware of this? If I am not mistaken, this chapel has a habit of using CathInfo posts as some sort of authoritative source. :smirk:

    http://saintspeterandpaulrcm.com/Catholic%20Controversies/Sedevacantists%20and%20Conservative%20Catholics-%20Unity%20in%20Error_%20Both%20believe%20Pope%20is%20Rule%20of%20Faith.htm


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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #11 on: December 08, 2025, 04:57:42 PM »
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    • And this,

    http://saintspeterandpaulrcm.com/Catholic%20Controversies/Pope_when_he_beomces_Rule-of-Faith.htm

    So if you are looking for a Sedevacantist chapel that is true to EENS, this doesn't look to be the place.

    Unless, you are a Sede that doesn't mind going to a chapel where he is told he is, denying dogma", and essentially has the "same error as the Novus Ordo conservatives".

    On a side note,

    Seeing all these CathInfo posts used on this chapel site as rules for establishing beliefs/disciplines, whatnot, etc., is both revealing and disturbing...

    This chapel is a perfect example of this fact.

    The CI posts are used as some kind of "catechism" or some such IDK.

    The damage that one bad piece of advice can do is incalculable.

    But, no one here ever gave bad advice right? 

    Welcome to the age of the "new" Pentecost! (sic):jester:




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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #12 on: December 08, 2025, 05:01:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on December 08, 2025, 04:36:37 PM
    And yet, are you aware of this? If I am not mistaken, this chapel has a habit of using CathInfo posts as some sort of authoritative source. :smirk:

    http://saintspeterandpaulrcm.com/Catholic%20Controversies/Sedevacantists%20and%20Conservative%20Catholics-%20Unity%20in%20Error_%20Both%20believe%20Pope%20is%20Rule%20of%20Faith.htm
    Mass options in the USA in 2025:

    1) Una cuм and EENS-rejecting

    2) Una cuм and EENS-professing

    3) Non-Una cuм and EENS-rejecting


    :popcorn: 
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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #13 on: December 08, 2025, 05:11:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on December 08, 2025, 05:01:37 PM
    Mass options in the USA in 2025:

    1) Una cuм and EENS-rejecting

    2) Una cuм and EENS-professing

    3) Non-Una cuм and EENS-rejecting


    :popcorn:
    Well, I suppose even those Una cuм EENS-professing chapels don't exactly get who is "in" and "outside of" the Church quite right. Whaddya gonna do 
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    Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
    « Reply #14 on: December 08, 2025, 05:12:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on December 08, 2025, 05:01:37 PM
    Mass options in the USA in 2025:

    1) Una cuм and EENS-rejecting

    2) Una cuм and EENS-professing

    3) Non-Una cuм and EENS-rejecting


    :popcorn:
    Huh, it's almost like something is stopping the correct alignment, ya know?
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