Yeah, so now you engage in a play of words where those outside the Church are not saved and go to Hell only in the sense that they god to the "fires of Hell" in Purgatory. These heretics never cease to amaze me with their lies and mendacity.
While, some theologians claim that the fires of Purgatory and the fires of Hell are the same fires (I dispute this), Purgatory and Hell are two completely different places, where those in Purgatgory are in a state of justification, are friends with God, and are in a state of grace, whereas those in Hell are not.
But, then, again, you don't bother to read the Church's dogmatic definition at Florence.
Let's try again:
So, yeah, those outside the Church will burn in Hell forever, and not the temporary "Hell" that you've just redefined as Purgatory. See that term there above, "everlasting", you know, the fire where the devils are ... or do you believe the devils are in Purgatory and will also eventually get out? At that point, you're on track to sllide into a different heresy, that of Origen, and revived by Bergoglio here, where in the end, everyone will be converted and enter union with God, all the wicked, and even the devils.
This is the kindof crap that causes steam to practically come out of my ears, it's so stupid, and such a pack of lies, distortions, and fallacies ... that it can only come from the diseased mind of someone who absolute refuses to accept the Church's dogmatic teaching, but then whose tortured conscience will attempt just about anything to claim they actually believe it by completely redefining the meaning of the words, the terms, the concepts ... so they can pay lip service to it, but then what they actually affirm in their intellects is the exact opposite of what the Church was actually teaching here.
Yeah, when the Church says "salvation", it's referring only to those who bypassed Purgatory. When the Church says "Hell", she really means Purgatory. When the Church says "everlasting fire prepared for the devil", she really means "temporary fire prepared for the just". When the Church says "is", she really means ... When the Church says "is no", she really means "is". If you don't believe that non-Catholics CAN be saved, then you're a heretic who rejects Church teaching, since we have to understand dogma as the Church understands it, or, rather, I say the Church underestand it, meaning that you're a heretic if you don't accept me as your rule of faith.
You have to be almost certifiably insane to spew this nonsense out there. No, salvation means what everyone understand by salvation. No, the everlasting fires prepared for the devil and his angels really is Hell, and not Purgatory. Yes, "is" does in fact mean "is", and "is no" does not mean "is".
I said that that the state of Purgatory is not the state of salvation.
Eventually all who go to Purgatory will be in the state of salvation, so those in Purgatory have the assurance of eventual salvation. But, while in Purgatory, they are not in a state of "welfare" or "health," which are the literal meanings of the word "salus" in Latin. They are in a state of suffering, and that is why we are called pray for them.
And I never said that everyone would be converted. Very few will be converted, in fact. But the Church does teach that non-Catholics with perfect Contrition can be justified. And the state of justification has its own reward.
I said: "However,
not all who are outside the Church will burn in Hell forever and never make it to Paradise. In fact, even most Catholics will suffer 'the fires of Hell' in Purgatory for a long time before entering Paradise."
For example, you would consider many people who are validly-baptized to be "outside the Church," right? Some are Orthodox or Protestant, etc. If these people, confess directly to God with perfect contrition, what do you think the Church says happens to them? They will be justified by having true sorrow for their sins. If this happens, and they die immediately after, do they burn in Hell forever? Does the Church teach that?