Author Topic: Implicit Faith - Defying the Law of Non-contradiction at Every Turn (Read 37473 times)

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #25 on:** January 10, 2012, 03:58:15 PM »

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People who worship Aquinas

While I admit that St. Thomas Aquinas' stance on the Immaculate Conception wasn't exactly spot-on, who here "worships" him? Do you have some sort of problem with every single Saint in Church history? I saw you cut down Pope St. Pius X earlier today...

The man who wrote that article (as far as I know) is Griff Ruby. He worships Aquinas, implicitly, because he refuses to admit that Thomas made a mistake on this issue. He treats him as an infallible rule, when it's well known that he made many errors. But as I said, Griff refuses to admit Aquinas made any errors. I can admit that St. Augustine made big errors; he himself admitted that.

As an aside, Griff Ruby doesn't think Martin Luther was necessarily a heretic.

Ah, I see.

So now that you have cleared that up, I'm still waiting for a clarification from you of why Pope Pius X is not a Saint, which you seemed to imply on another thread earlier today.

Augustinian · « **Reply #26 on:** January 10, 2012, 04:04:31 PM »

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People who worship Aquinas

While I admit that St. Thomas Aquinas' stance on the Immaculate Conception wasn't exactly spot-on, who here "worships" him? Do you have some sort of problem with every single Saint in Church history? I saw you cut down Pope St. Pius X earlier today...

The man who wrote that article (as far as I know) is Griff Ruby. He worships Aquinas, implicitly, because he refuses to admit that Thomas made a mistake on this issue. He treats him as an infallible rule, when it's well known that he made many errors. But as I said, Griff refuses to admit Aquinas made any errors. I can admit that St. Augustine made big errors; he himself admitted that.

As an aside, Griff Ruby doesn't think Martin Luther was necessarily a heretic.

Ah, I see.

So now that you have cleared that up, I'm still waiting for a clarification from you of why Pope Pius X is not a Saint, which you seemed to imply on another thread earlier today.

Don't want to derail this thread - it's going pretty good. If you search that Semi-Pelagian thread you will find the answer. He was incredibly weak against Modernism.

By the way, that particular article I just saw at the very bottom says John Lane. It's Griff Ruby's website though. They are basically the same person (meaning their beliefs).

JPaul · « **Reply #27 on:** January 10, 2012, 04:05:09 PM »

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No contradiction, no qualifications, no inconsistencies. That is the pure and Holy Doctrine of Christ.

Men are generally not capable of comprehending the higher mysteries of the Holy Religion and so often resort to sentimentalities and vague elyssian visions to explain what they cannot accept.

What exactly are these "higher mysteries of the Holy Religion" that "men are generally not capable of comprehending", but you comprehand?

Those would be that there is no salvation outside of the one True Church, and that those who are not baptised by water and the Holy Ghost ar lost, and perhaps that the defined dogmas of the religion mean what they say, admitting no qualification or differing meaning.

BTW, I was agreeing with your intial post.

Man of the West · « **Reply #28 on:** January 10, 2012, 04:06:08 PM »

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It was irrelevant because your attribution of IE to what Nadie is saying shows you either don't understand what he's saying, don't understand what IE is or are interested solely in derailing the discussion.

I see very little point in maintaining civilities with you any longer. You have now proceeded to make unfounded accusations against both my intellect and my character. I'm warning you not to expect good things to come of that.

I have never derailed any discussion on this site, and I'm not about to disrupt this one by engaging any further with you.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #29 on:** January 10, 2012, 04:28:55 PM »

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BoD isn't very old. It's a novelty.

How old would it have to be to be very old?