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Author Topic: Genuinely curious - rejection of Baptism and the Council of Trent  (Read 23316 times)

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Offline trad123

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Re: Genuinely curious - rejection of Baptism and the Council of Trent
« Reply #130 on: May 31, 2018, 11:21:08 PM »
I don't have any difficulty with the links and quotes you provided.

The following ideas were specifically condemned...

"III. Indifferentism, Latitudinarianism
   15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true. -Allocution Maxima quidem, June 9, 1862; Damnatio Multiplices inter, June 10, 1851.
   16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation. -Encyclical Qui pluribus, Nov. 9, 1846.
   17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ. -Encyclical Quanto conficiamur, Aug. 10, 1863.
   18. Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion, in which form it is given to please God equally as in the Catholic Church. -Encyclical Noscitis, Dec. 8, 1849."


Read it again.

What of number 16?

Re: Genuinely curious - rejection of Baptism and the Council of Trent
« Reply #131 on: May 31, 2018, 11:25:17 PM »

Read it again.

What of number 16?
#16 - Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation - is a false statement.  No Catholic would disagree.

Our Lord Jesus said: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.


Re: Genuinely curious - rejection of Baptism and the Council of Trent
« Reply #132 on: May 31, 2018, 11:38:55 PM »
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The doctrine of the Church also recognizes implicit baptism of desire. This consists in doing the will of God.

Archbishop Lefebvre

I think we all can agree that the Ten Commandments given to Moses at Mount Sinai are a crucial part of God's will for us. A person who professes a false religion is not doing God's will right from the very beginning.

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1. I am the LORD your God:
you shall not have
strange Gods before me.





Re: Genuinely curious - rejection of Baptism and the Council of Trent
« Reply #133 on: May 31, 2018, 11:42:51 PM »
Perhaps you misunderstand the statement
"in the observance of any religion whatever".

God is not bound by the Sacraments, we are.


Offline trad123

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Re: Genuinely curious - rejection of Baptism and the Council of Trent
« Reply #134 on: May 31, 2018, 11:53:39 PM »
CMRI

Fr. Dominic Radecki and Francisco Radecki,

What has happened to the Catholic Church? (Kindle Locations 1631-1635). St. Joseph's Media. Kindle Edition.


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Those outside the Catholic Church can be saved through invincible ignorance; not because they are following a false religion but in spite of it. Why did Christ come down to earth, endure His Passion and death on the cross and establish His own Church if all religions are vehicles of salvation? A Ford or Chevy can take you across the country but you need to take a rocket to get to the moon. In other matters there is a choice. In charting a flight to heaven, we have to play by God's rules, not our own.