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Offline Neil Obstat

Re: From a Soul in Purgatory
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2017, 10:27:32 AM »
Quote from: GJC on December 05, 2017, 08:15:59 AM
Those ears are itching so bad these days, makes me wonder if they have been infected with poison ivy...
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Just this past week, I have heard 3 different people, who probably don't even know each other, but they all said the same thing, generally speaking.
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They said they were "raised Catholic" then proceeded to pronounce their belief in reincarnation.
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It made me wonder, how long before Bishop of Rome Francis chimes in on reincarnation? 
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When the frequency of reincarnation adherents reaches critical mass?
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Offline poche

Re: From a Soul in Purgatory
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2017, 04:55:23 AM »
From the Baltimore Catechism;

Q. 510. Is it ever possible for one to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church?
A. It is possible for one to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church, provided that person:
1.(1) Has been validly baptized;
2.(2) Firmly believes the religion he professes and practices to be the true religion, and
3.(3) Dies without the guilt of mortal sin on his soul.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/resources/catechism/baltimore-catechism/lesson-11-on-the-church
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Offline poche

Re: From a Soul in Purgatory
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2017, 11:08:40 PM »
Quote from: GJC on December 27, 2017, 08:22:11 AM
When there is conflict of messages the infallible teaching of the Church are to be believed FIRST!

From the Vatican I Council:

6. Now, although the assent of faith is by no means a blind movement of the mind, yet no one can accept the gospel preaching in the way that is necessary for achieving salvation without the inspiration and illumination of the Holy Spirit, who gives to all facility in accepting and believing the truth.

Do you see the conflict here? If you believe Q. 510 # 2, then you would have to disagree with the Vatican I council. You would be either confessing that the Holy Spirit teaches error, which would be blaspheme. Or a person could achieve salvation without the illumination of the Holy Spirit.
That appears to say the same thing as the Baltimore Catechism.
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Offline OHCA

Re: From a Soul in Purgatory
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2018, 10:14:56 PM »
Quote from: poche on December 05, 2017, 03:28:22 AM
According to the soul in Purgatory they are not saved because of their protestantism, but in spite of it. The soul acknowledged that the Protestants do not receive as many graces as Catholics but also that there are many Catholics who abuse these graces.
This is an example of the limitless mental somersaults of the Bogus Ordo theologians.
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Offline trad123

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Re: From a Soul in Purgatory
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2018, 11:49:41 PM »
Quote from: poche on December 27, 2017, 11:08:40 PM
That appears to say the same thing as the Baltimore Catechism.

A Protestant firmly believing the religion he professes and practices to be the true religion is antithetical to accepting and believing the truth. The Protestant who dies believing in his creed accepts and believes in a falsehood.
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