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ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #50 on:** April 25, 2013, 11:01:11 AM »

So in other words, you are saying Archbishop Lefebvre was not a Catholic?

Jehanne · « **Reply #51 on:** April 25, 2013, 12:25:14 PM »

Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti

So in other words, you are saying Archbishop Lefebvre was not a Catholic?

He was being ambiguous. He kind of wanted to have his "EENS cake and eat it, too!" Let's consider all of this in terms of Pascal's Wager:

1) An invincibly-ignorant non-Catholic who has genuine implicit faith and submission to the Roman Pontiff is in a state of grace, that is, no original sin and no mortal, either.

2) A non-Catholic is in a state of original and/or mortal sin.

With respect to non-Catholics, categories #1 and #2 are mutually exclusively. Do you agree? If so, how are we harming the non-Catholic in #1 by preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ to that person? How about #2? And, if we cannot tell the difference between #1 and #2, then does it matter? We should preach the Gospel. Period. To every human creator, without exception. Agreed?

roscoe · « **Reply #52 on:** April 25, 2013, 12:37:42 PM »

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I don't know Roscoe, but we agree on EENS as it is written

I just today read that roscoe wrote in an old thread that he thought BOB and BOD did exist but that they were rare. Sorry I don't have a link.

I am not a theologian but if memory is serving me correctly, my comments were that the whole BOD/BOB debate is a waste of time( similar to the Pius XII is guilty of dereliction of duty re: Fatima mantra) because there probably isn't more than a few hundred people in the world today that it even applies to.

Mortalium · « **Reply #53 on:** April 25, 2013, 01:54:05 PM »

Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti

So in other words, you are saying Archbishop Lefebvre was not a Catholic?

If you can't answer that question yourself you're in big trouble.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #54 on:** April 25, 2013, 02:04:09 PM »

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Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
So in other words, you are saying Archbishop Lefebvre was not a Catholic?

If you can't answer that question yourself you're in big trouble.

I see that you're conveniently refusing to give a direct answer.

If I'm able to "answer the question myself" you should be able to as well.