Author Topic: Father Kramer to the Feeneyites (Read 29622 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2014, 02:28:53 PM »

Not to mention that Father Kramer has already discredited himself when it comes to both theology and reading comprehension. He juxtaposes texts from the Church which condemn the notion that the Old Law and Mosaic ritual have not been revoked with mention that the Old Covenant has never been revoked.

His discussion of "votum" and the "future" is nothing short of idiotic.

Stubborn · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2014, 02:44:18 PM »

Ambrose just showing how he defends the heretical belief that No Sacrament At All is necessary for salvation - it's like he needs his fix or something.

Please note that Ambrose, like Fr. Kramer and all other NSAAers, cannot bring themselves to defend any sacrament - and it is particularly impossible for them to defend the necessity of the sacrament of baptism unto salvation as they no not believe they are necessary for anything at all.

Trent's catechism teaches the reason for this is because Ambrose and all NSAAers despise the sacraments.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2014, 03:18:47 PM »

Quote from: Cantarella

We need not Fr. Kramer to interpret for us after 2000 years, the infallible Church teaching on EENS. The denial of "Extra Eccleasiam Nulla Salus" is a novelty. Fr. Kramer is far from being the binding authority of the Church. Truth is there is absolutely no salvation for any human being outside actual baptized membership in the Roman Catholic Church.

With all due respect, and out of genuine curiosity, what is behind all the anti-feeneyite agenda of the CMRI?

I was getting ready to ask what's with all the Feeneyites or EENS-defenders who are novus ordites? The novus ordo has been mocking EENS since the early 1950's.

Deny EENS? The novus ordo denies Our Lord by saying that non-Christian faiths have the means of salvationin them.

Cantarella · « **Reply #8 on:** May 21, 2014, 03:35:56 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

Quote from: Cantarella
We need not Fr. Kramer to interpret for us after 2000 years, the infallible Church teaching on EENS. The denial of "Extra Eccleasiam Nulla Salus" is a novelty. Fr. Kramer is far from being the binding authority of the Church. Truth is there is absolutely no salvation for any human being outside actual baptized membership in the Roman Catholic Church.

With all due respect, and out of genuine curiosity, what is behind all the anti-feeneyite agenda of the CMRI?

I was getting ready to ask what's with all the Feeneyites or EENS-defenders who are novus ordites? The novus ordo has been mocking EENS since the early 1950's.

Deny EENS? The novus ordo denies Our Lord by saying that non-Christian faiths have the means of salvationin them.

There are "feeneyites" that happen to attend the Novus Ordo Mass, which is a separate and distinct rite of Mass within the Latin Church.

JPaul · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2014, 05:14:03 PM »

Quote from: Cantarella

Quote from: Capt McQuigg
Quote from: Cantarella
We need not Fr. Kramer to interpret for us after 2000 years, the infallible Church teaching on EENS. The denial of "Extra Eccleasiam Nulla Salus" is a novelty. Fr. Kramer is far from being the binding authority of the Church. Truth is there is absolutely no salvation for any human being outside actual baptized membership in the Roman Catholic Church.

With all due respect, and out of genuine curiosity, what is behind all the anti-feeneyite agenda of the CMRI?

I was getting ready to ask what's with all the Feeneyites or EENS-defenders who are novus ordites? The novus ordo has been mocking EENS since the early 1950's.

Deny EENS? The novus ordo denies Our Lord by saying that non-Christian faiths have the means of salvationin them.

There are "feeneyites" that happen to attend the Novus Ordo Mass, which is a separate and distinct rite of Mass within the Latin Church.

It is not Catholic, it is not a work of the Church , and it is always a sacrilege.