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Can Protestants be saved, without becoming Catholic, at least in the hour of death?

Yes, they can be saved, as Protestants, provided invincible ignorance excuses them from heresy.
8 (19%)
I'm not sure if they can be saved. I assume they can be and so it's ok to leave them in ignorance.
0 (0%)
I'm not sure if they can be saved. I assume they can't be and thus I pray and work to convert them.
9 (21.4%)
No, Protestants cannot be saved without having become Catholic before death.
23 (54.8%)
Other (please explain).
2 (4.8%)

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Offline ihsv

Re: Do you believe Protestants, as Protestants, can be saved?
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2018, 02:21:11 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on September 19, 2018, 01:27:48 PM
Yeah, terrific sermon.  Is that Father Bitzer?

Yes, it is.

His sermons are available on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/OurLadyofthePillarChapel
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Do you believe Protestants, as Protestants, can be saved?
« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2018, 03:18:33 PM »
Quote from: ihsv on September 19, 2018, 02:21:11 PM
Yes, it is.

His sermons are available on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/OurLadyofthePillarChapel

He has a fantastic delivery due to the tenor of his voice (could be on the radio), and his content is spot on.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Do you believe Protestants, as Protestants, can be saved?
« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2018, 03:20:00 PM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 19, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
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Another one:
https://www.cathinfo.com/teen-catholic-hangout/funny-stuff/msg627206/#msg627206
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Me neither.

Her screen name was changed, so that probably messes up some things.  She originally typoed it "chritsy" when she meant "christy".
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Offline hollingsworth

Re: Do you believe Protestants, as Protestants, can be saved?
« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2018, 04:02:37 PM »

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Lefebvre: Does that mean that no Protestant, no Muslim, no Buddhist or animist will be saved? No, it would be a second error to think that. Those who cry for intolerance in interpreting St. Cyprian’s formula, “Outside the Church there is no salvation,” also reject the Creed, “I confess one baptism for the remission of sins,” and are insufficiently instructed as to what baptism is. There are three ways of receiving it: the baptism of water; the baptism of blood (that of the martyrs who confessed the faith while still catechumens) and baptism of desire. 


I would like folks like Ladislaus and NO to go on the record. Maybe you both have in the past, but I have no time to go through the accuмulated reams of babble on CI from the two of you true Catholic gents. The words above are reprinted, (perhaps for the third time), from the writings of ABL. Are you willing to testify for the record that the Archbishop was wrong, and, by extension, that Bp Williamson is wrong, including the three bishops whom the former has appointed? If so, please say so in clear words which all of us can understand. Please do not belabor us with unnecessary verbiage. I want succinct statements from you both that I can file away and have always at hand
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Do you believe Protestants, as Protestants, can be saved?
« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2018, 06:02:45 PM »
The above +ABL explanation is a contradiction.  As it is written, it’s not catholic.  
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