What does Sean believe? No one knows. He argues and argues and quotes Ligouri and a catechism which he says Pius X wrote, but he does not say what he believes. Before anyone tries to teach or debate with someone, they should establish what they are debating about. I asked him 4 questions that would reveal what he believes, and he does not answer them, so unless some of you like to fight and argue, I would not waste my time writing to him until he makes it clear where he stands in the evolution of salvation of non-Catholics. As it stands, I do not see any evidence from him that there is a difference between what he writes and what was spelled out at Vatican II.
Seen believes, like all NOers, that man is basically good, which is of course pure Liberalism. Fr. Wathen explains him to a "T".
Snip from: "Man is not basically good".
"....They are going to have to recognize that liberalism is intrinsically false and will not work, because beneath liberalism, the philosophical basis of liberalism, is what we call naturalism. Naturalism proclaims, among other heresies, that there is no such thing as original sin, that man is basically good, that he means well and if you let him grow up, he’ll grow up good, he’ll grow up moral, he’ll grow up to be a good fellow.
But Catholic doctrine says that man is not basically good, that he comes into the world, bent on evil, and if you leave him to himself, he’ll become a savage, he’ll become amoral. He’ll not only do most wicked things but he will try to justify them.
We have to recognize that this is the error of liberalism, that it wants to treat all men as if they really are not bad and that the only reason they are bad is that they are misguided, that they’re victims of circuмstances and of their environment.
That they are bad because their mother, or their father, or their parents mistreated them, or because they were deprived of something, or because they didn’t get a chance to go to school with white folk and all that kind of thing. And we say that no, a man is bad because of original sin and he doesn’t mind being bad, he chooses to be bad. In other words, he cannot blame his wickedness on Adam only, because with every day that passes, he confirms the evil within himself.
At the second Vatican council they tried to say that "men are bad, that men are anti-Catholic because the Church has not treated men correctly, and if the Church approached them kindly, and with understanding and you might say with intelligence, modern public relations - they would have come into the Church instead of opposing it" and being against us in every way and distrusting it and even engaging in efforts to destroy it."
And the bishops are going to have to recognize that original sin is operative in every soul and it always will be, and that all men have to be disciplined, they have to acknowledge that by themselves they will do wicked things. And Almighty God in the Church established an authority over them and they may not like to be told what to do but they must be told what to do and they must be warned of the consequences of not doing it, and
the consequences ultimately are hell fire..."
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