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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
« Reply #285 on: June 21, 2025, 01:36:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 21, 2025, 10:14:18 AM
    If the tables were turned, I wonder if you’d have the same attitude on if the husband was threatening to call the police on the wife over nothing and acting like an inconsiderate jerk. Would you ask the wife if she had anything nice to say about her husband? You’re dismissive and lack empathy. Not surprised coming from you. What good advice have you given? This man could have his life ruined by one phone call and you don’t even care. What’s wrong with you?
    Yes, I would.  Negativity breeds negativity.  

    I don't want any of their lives ruined.  If he acts tyrannical he will lose everything.  If he acts like a wimp, he could lose everything.
    The thing is I am a realist.  He needs people in his real life to help him.  If she won't see a priest, then he needs to go without her.  We here on CI, can only just pray.
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #286 on: June 21, 2025, 01:52:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on June 21, 2025, 01:36:43 PM
      If he acts tyrannical he will lose everything.  If he acts like a wimp, he could lose everything.
    Interesting
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #287 on: June 21, 2025, 02:57:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on June 21, 2025, 01:52:31 PM
    Interesting
    I am a realist.  The laws are in the favor of women. If she says he is a tyranical abusive person, physical or mental (which is very hard to prove), then he will lose everything.  If he caters to her will then she might not leave, but, he will suffer greatly, hence he wouldn't lose everything but it will be an awful marriage.
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #288 on: June 21, 2025, 05:24:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on June 21, 2025, 02:57:19 PM
    I am a realist.  The laws are in the favor of women. If she says he is a tyranical abusive person, physical or mental (which is very hard to prove), then he will lose everything.  If he caters to her will then she might not leave, but, he will suffer greatly, hence he wouldn't lose everything but it will be an awful marriage.
    If he did not have a child, sure. Suffering through this woman's wrath would be an opportunity to increase in virtue. But he is responsible for the formation of his child, most importantly spiritually..and he cannot let this woman influence the child. Him being a "wimp" could very well result in him losing his soul (i.e. "everything"). Him being a "tyrant" (what do you even mean by that? Exercising his God given authority over his wife and household? The wife is subject to the husband "in all things") could be what he needs to save his soul. He needs to start docuмenting everything yesterday..audio, video. Then he can put his "tyrannical" foot down and if his wife does not obey, he will hopefully have the evidence necessary to remove this woman from his and the child's life if it comes to that 
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #289 on: June 21, 2025, 07:35:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on June 21, 2025, 05:24:02 PM
    If he did not have a child, sure. Suffering through this woman's wrath would be an opportunity to increase in virtue. But he is responsible for the formation of his child, most importantly spiritually..and he cannot let this woman influence the child. Him being a "wimp" could very well result in him losing his soul (i.e. "everything"). Him being a "tyrant" (what do you even mean by that? Exercising his God given authority over his wife and household? The wife is subject to the husband "in all things") could be what he needs to save his soul. He needs to start docuмenting everything yesterday..audio, video. Then he can put his "tyrannical" foot down and if his wife does not obey, he will hopefully have the evidence necessary to remove this woman from his and the child's life if it comes to that
    But he won't have any power until he is back in his own country.

    So though your advice might work, he can't do anything until later. He will probably lose the child to a foreign country if he is not patient.  While he is practicing patience, he can docuмent everything.

    I am not sure how saying no to her would go down right now  because she has all the cards living in her country.

    And to be clear, I agree that the husband of the family has the responsibility to lead his family properly.

    The reason I ask for the good side of the wife is because I believe that he can use it as a tool to help calm their situation down.  I really get tired of single men trying to give advice for the married state.  Theory is useful, but sometimes you have to adjust for real life scenarios.
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #290 on: June 21, 2025, 08:33:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on June 21, 2025, 07:35:34 PM
    But he won't have any power until he is back in his own country.

    So though your advice might work, he can't do anything until later. He will probably lose the child to a foreign country if he is not patient.  While he is practicing patience, he can docuмent everything.

    I am not sure how saying no to her would go down right now  because she has all the cards living in her country.

    And to be clear, I agree that the husband of the family has the responsibility to lead his family properly.

    The reason I ask for the good side of the wife is because I believe that he can use it as a tool to help calm their situation down.  I really get tired of single men trying to give advice for the married state.  Theory is useful, but sometimes you have to adjust for real life scenarios.
    You’re not a married man yourself and you think you can give better advice? You don’t have to be in a foreign country to feel vulnerable as a man. It’s like this everywhere that a man feels like he can’t do anything to get the upper hand in his marriage because the state supports the woman. Even if she lies in court (which is bound to happen), they will take her side. There are many men who live by “happy wife, happy life” and their wives stills screw them over in the divorce court or in life. Which is what you are suggesting, to try and appease his wife instead of seeing through her bs. I understand you have sons and I wonder if they were in this exact situation (which I hope they’re never in) how you would feel? 
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #291 on: June 21, 2025, 09:31:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 21, 2025, 08:33:09 PM
    You’re not a married man yourself and you think you can give better advice? You don’t have to be in a foreign country to feel vulnerable as a man. It’s like this everywhere that a man feels like he can’t do anything to get the upper hand in his marriage because the state supports the woman. Even if she lies in court (which is bound to happen), they will take her side. There are many men who live by “happy wife, happy life” and their wives stills screw them over in the divorce court or in life. Which is what you are suggesting, to try and appease his wife instead of seeing through her bs. I understand you have sons and I wonder if they were in this exact situation (which I hope they’re never in) how you would feel?
    I understand the vulnerability of men.

    Do you have any real life experience of a man standing up to his wife's bs and winning?

    I see women tearing families a part and the fathers are left in the dust.  

    If my sons found themselves in this situation, then I would hope that the wife would accept council from her mother in law.   I would also expect my son to practice virtue.
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #292 on: June 22, 2025, 10:12:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on June 21, 2025, 09:31:56 PM
    I understand the vulnerability of men. 
    :laugh2:  You criticized the husband in the OP and now you’re an expert on men.  You’re one of the most pompous posters in CI history.  :laugh2:
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #293 on: June 22, 2025, 10:32:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 22, 2025, 10:12:12 AM
    :laugh2:  You criticized the husband in the OP and now you’re an expert on men.  You’re one of the most pompous posters in CI history.  :laugh2:
    Wow. There is fault with both the man and the woman.  Do you not agree that the man must have picked poorly if he has this problem to deal with?  If the woman was on here complaining about her husband, I would be just as critical of her.

    In just two years I went from being extremely weak and emotional to the most pompous poster in CathInfo history. 

    Interesting.
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #294 on: June 22, 2025, 12:33:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on June 22, 2025, 10:32:11 AM
    Wow. There is fault with both the man and the woman.  Do you not agree that the man must have picked poorly if he has this problem to deal with?  
    Where did you learn such a warped understanding of Catholicism?  It’s not the man’s fault if a woman sins.  
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #295 on: June 22, 2025, 12:45:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 22, 2025, 12:33:37 PM
    Where did you learn such a warped understanding of Catholicism?  It’s not the man’s fault if a woman sins. 
    Are you having fun? :cowboy:

    I think I am just done with this conversation.  I mean if you are going to continue to hide behind Anonymous and twist things I say then there is just no point anymore. 
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #296 on: June 22, 2025, 01:13:01 PM »
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    • I think you've/we've all been duped.  IMO, the OP is Croix.  :fryingpan:
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    « Reply #297 on: June 22, 2025, 04:20:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on June 22, 2025, 01:13:01 PM
    I think you've/we've all been duped.  IMO, the OP is Croix.  :fryingpan:
    Even if this entire story is made up, I’ve known similar situations.  We all have.  The relationship dynamics at play are timeless. 
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    « Reply #298 on: June 22, 2025, 04:24:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on June 22, 2025, 10:32:11 AM
    Wow. There is fault with both the man and the woman.  Do you not agree that the man must have picked poorly if he has this problem to deal with?  If the woman was on here complaining about her husband, I would be just as critical of her.

    In just two years I went from being extremely weak and emotional to the most pompous poster in CathInfo history. 

    Interesting.
    Wife goes nuts and threatens to call cops and destroy the marriage.  

    Modern women:  It’s the man’s fault for marrying her.  

    Conclusion:  It’s never the woman’s fault.  
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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #299 on: June 22, 2025, 09:36:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 21, 2025, 03:14:38 AM
    Jordan Peterson is a charlatan atheist who collects communist "art". The guy is a subversive. He is not about Christianity or conservatives. He is a gatekeeper globalist agent paid for by globalist aka Jews to keep the people on the right confused and to destroy white people. I highly suggest you never follow or post any of his propaganda. Especially in a Catholic forum. He is a dangerous subversive lying snake.
    Could be, but at least he doesn't seem to have a problem with his wife defrosting meat on the floor. 

    You seem like a man intent on finding ONLY external reasons for your problems, when a blind man can tell that you have at least SOME fault in what's going on. If you're looking for someone to enable your B.S., I'm not your guy.

    As far as Peterson, I'm not into hero worship or blindly following ANYONE, but he's earned my respect. So far, you've earned disdain. I mean good grief man, you can't even get along with your own wife. Why should anyone be interested in your opinion on anything?
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