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Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2025, 01:29:54 PM »
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  • I brought up talking to a priest together and she refused saying that he wouldn't know anything about marriage... She said if we were to get counseling it would have to be a woman...
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    So, my hunch was correct, that she is not a traditional Catholic at all. Someone who says a priest knows nothing about marriage is basically saying the Catholic Church knows nothing about marriage. She does not have the Catholic Faith.

    Unfortunately, at this point you really don't have any good options.

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #76 on: June 11, 2025, 01:31:52 PM »
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  • Or the wife is very insecure.

    I know that when I first married (secular Christian, with the idea that marriage was forever) I took the silly route of saying that I would leave when things got to difficult.  I did not mean it. I was probably doing it to see if he would let me.  4 years later we became Catholic and then quickly became NO traditional.  That was another adjustment.  Then we moved away from all our family for his job, 6 weeks after a c-section with child number 2, another adjustment.  When child number 3 came, we jumped the NO ship, another adjustment.  We have been married for 27 years now.

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #77 on: June 11, 2025, 01:33:15 PM »
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  • Or the wife is very insecure.

    I know that when I first married (secular Christian, with the idea that marriage was forever) I took the silly route of saying that I would leave when things got to difficult.  I did not mean it. I was probably doing it to see if he would let me.  4 years later we became Catholic and then quickly became NO traditional.  That was another adjustment.  Then we moved away from all our family for his job, 6 weeks after a c-section with child number 2, another adjustment.  When child number 3 came, we jumped the NO ship, another adjustment.  We have been married for 27 years now.

    If they cling to God, God will provide.
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    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #78 on: June 11, 2025, 01:35:56 PM »
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  • I brought up talking to a priest together and she refused saying that he wouldn't know anything about marriage... She said if we were to get counseling it would have to be a woman...
    So she appears not to trust men.

    Maybe you need to find a woman, you think has a good Catholic marriage, that she trusts, to talk to her.  It will take time.

    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #79 on: June 11, 2025, 01:37:33 PM »
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  • She sounds controlling and micromanaging. I used to be a germaphobe but it was causing stress and unnecessary arguments that I decided to relax a bit on some things. Maybe your wife grew up having to be super clean? And after we had our first child, I really had to let some things go. Toddlers are messy. And so is having many kids.

    But I will definitely bring disinfectant wipes whenever we stay at a hotel.
    She is. 


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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #80 on: June 11, 2025, 01:38:54 PM »
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  • She is.
    How did you not know this before marriage?
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #81 on: June 11, 2025, 01:56:15 PM »
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  • How did you not know this before marriage?
    It sounds like there was a lot he did know (or at least sensed) and he chose to ignore it. Maybe he was in a rush to get married.

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #82 on: June 11, 2025, 02:22:18 PM »
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  • Oh big deal, so she thaws the meat on the floor. In a nice way, simply let her know she's crazy for doing that and give it some time. It's not so big of a deal to divorce over. I had a newly married friend years ago who's wife literally threw kitchen knives at him when he upset her, and did so more than once, no joke. Last I heard they're still married - and they're protestants. So just have patience with her, at some point she'll come around.  
     


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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #83 on: June 11, 2025, 02:34:05 PM »
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  • I’m a woman and I know how we can be. Sometimes we just need a reality check on how our actions are negatively impacting those around us. Her saying she wants to separate is already going too far and that’s what she thinks.
    She told me once that she said this because it's the only way I would listen to her by using this separation threat.

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    « Reply #84 on: June 11, 2025, 02:43:34 PM »
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  •  she has some serious contamination type OCD issue.
    Yes. She needs help.

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #85 on: June 11, 2025, 02:52:21 PM »
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  • So OP, you have painted your wife in a very bad light.  Is there anything that she does that is Catholic and you can work with?

    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"


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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #86 on: June 11, 2025, 03:02:25 PM »
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  • She told me once that she said this because it's the only way I would listen to her by using this separation threat.
    Do you listen to her? I doubt it’s about the meat. 

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #87 on: June 11, 2025, 03:05:56 PM »
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  • It never fails, that if someone on CI is seeking marital advice, there's a cadre of single guys telling him he just needs to man up and put his foot down.

    Your wife doesn't respect your authority? Well, man, you just need to authoritize harder.

    What a bunch of retards lol.

    First off, we don't have enough information to give you genuinely helpful advice. This is a HUGE adjustment period: you're newlyweds. You have a newborn. Your wife is an immigrant. And apparently she has a secular background to boot. And you've been married less than a year, so we don't even know how much of these problems are hormonal (post-partum personality changes can be extremely difficult, although they are temporary if managed correctly).

    Second, if the fundamental problem is that your wife is strongly animated by feminism then I guarantee you the "authoritize harder" approach will only affirm all of her feminist dispositions. It will make her less happy and more distrustful of you. The level of anger, anxiety, and resentment in your home will increase, not decrease. And it will increase proportionate to the intensity with which you authoritize harder.

    Third, it is the business of a husband and father to lead his family so that they can flourish.  Authority is a means to that end, not an end in itself. What you want, or what you should want, is for you and your wife to have a strong, holy, and happy relationship. So that your home is filled with love and your children have a good marital example modelled before them. That is a longterm project, and it's also a moving target to some degree. Navigating it correctly and effectively has almost nothing to do with your God given authority, but much more to do with your ability to manage a relationship, to inspire others trust, to reward proper behavior, and so forth.
    I don't agree with the disparaging remarks, but correct, we don't live in era where you can force women to obey you. Women today have all these "equal" rights.

    She does not have a secular background. She is not a feminist. 

    "Navigating it correctly and effectively has almost nothing to do with your God given authority, but much more to do with your ability to manage a relationship, to inspire others trust, to reward proper behavior, and so forth."

    It has everything to do with God's given authority to men. Without God's authority, men cannot lead. 

    What comes to mind is Thy will be done. It came from God and God wills this. It is only temporary. You are right we are still newly weds. This is all new. The pregnancy. The child. It's all a gift from God. We don't please God by choosing what we would like to tolerate. We please God by tolerating what he has chosen for us.



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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #88 on: June 11, 2025, 03:08:08 PM »
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  • Oh big deal, so she thaws the meat on the floor. In a nice way, simply let her know she's crazy for doing that and give it some time. It's not so big of a deal to divorce over. I had a newly married friend years ago who's wife literally threw kitchen knives at him when he upset her, and did so more than once, no joke. Last I heard they're still married - and they're protestants. So just have patience with her, at some point she'll come around. 
     
    It isn't a big deal to me actually. I just used that as a starting point for the discussion. If I told her she was crazy (even in a nice way) it wouldn't be pretty. 

    Yes, patience.

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #89 on: June 11, 2025, 03:11:05 PM »
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  • So OP, you have painted your wife in a very bad light.  Is there anything that she does that is Catholic and you can work with?
    I know and I didn't really want to talk about it here even if it is anonymous. However, just from talking about these bad points I realize that it isn't so bad after all from listening to everyone else. It just good to talk about it. It's hard to keep that stuff bottled up for sanity reasons.