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« Reply #195 on: Today at 11:15:16 AM »
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  • Sounds like you need some therapy to get past your mother issues and have a better balanced view of women.
    Does your wife know how little you think of her? How miserable that must be for her, to know think of her as no different than an animal.  Or do you have a wife?


    Obviously you’ve never had the pleasure of meeting some holy black people. Or maybe you have but would never entertain the idea that someone who is black might be much holier than you.
    Do you have black friends?
    Obviously the poster was talking about blacks in general. If you live in Merica you’d know. Some of these responses are pearl-clutching. 

    It’s easy to suggest therapy than offer sympathy for this situation that a mother caused his dad to do. You know how much damage that could cause on a child? And this is super common. 

    I think you need to stop assuming all women are great. Just because you’re a woman, doesn’t mean you’re obligated to defend all women. 

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    « Reply #196 on: Today at 11:35:08 AM »
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  • To the OP, from a man who has been married 30 years to a wife who still completely ignores Church teaching on submission to her husband. 

    Her lack of submission to me almost drove me into apostasy. And the anger over the situation definitely drove me into much grave sin. I convinced myself that I had been deceived and trapped by this woman...blah, blah, blah. 

    My solution (not acted upon, thank God) was to leave the marriage, because (as I rationalized) "God surely could not be happy with her behavior." In my head, I had a good reason for "fixing the problem." God was on my side, right? And the fix would be divorce or separation or whatever.

    But later I realized that I was looking at the situation all wrong. God had given me a Cross to bear, and I was constantly trying to find a way to dispose of my Cross. That is my nature. I am a problem-solver. Her behavior clearly contradicted God's plan for a happy marriage. This problematic behavior needed to be fixed, so that I could be happy.

    No, this was all wrong. The problem is and always was threefold: me, myself and I...the unholy trinity. 

    God did not put me in this world to live out some kind of marital bliss in an earthly paradise with a wife that submits to my every command. I was not put here "to be happy." I was put in this world to suffer and yearn for true eternal bliss in Heaven with God. But that true eternal bliss is only open to those who keep God's commandments in this life and walk in the footsteps of Our Lord.

    I realized that my marriage woes were actually my opportunity to merit Heaven. If I accepted and embraced that suffering, I would be on the path to Heaven. If I complained and acted in certain ways to avoid that suffering, I would be on the path to damnation.

    You took a vow that included the phrase "...for better or for worse...." Accept your Cross and thank God that you are not confined to a wheelchair slowly dying from MS for 30 years like my wife's aunt was. God gives each of us a special Cross intended to test our love for Him. Love God by acknowledging and welcoming the chance to suffer in small ways in imitation of His infinite suffering for us.


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    « Reply #197 on: Today at 11:41:38 AM »
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  • Do you have black friends?
    Obviously the poster was talking about blacks in general. If you live in Merica you’d know. Some of these responses are pearl-clutching.

    It’s easy to suggest therapy than offer sympathy for this situation that a mother caused his dad to do. You know how much damage that could cause on a child? And this is super common.

    I think you need to stop assuming all women are great. Just because you’re a woman, doesn’t mean you’re obligated to defend all women.
    I don’t feel obligated to defend all women, just the women who are being labeled unjustly. He doesn’t say “most” women or “worldly” women, he simply says women, which I assume means all women. 

    I can sympathize with his situation with his mother because mine is much the same, except my father nipped that real quick by removing affection and any approval of her.  As long as she’s not bossing and nagging they get along fine. Her nagging transferred to her children though, and my husband had to nip that real quick as well once we got married. We have firm boundaries with her now and are able to have a friendly relationship. I actually DID seek therapy to deal with my mother issues and it helped a lot. 

    I don’t have any close black friends. There are a few that I really admired for their holiness at the parish I used to go to, but I haven’t seen them in many years. Again, his statement about women and blacks was worded definitively and that’s why I got defensive. If that’s not what he meant, then my apologies. 

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    « Reply #198 on: Today at 12:00:13 PM »
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  • The anonymous forum is the perfect forum for this type of situation.  It's not sinful at all.  And it has nothing to do with gossip, as another poster said, because you can't gossip against anonymous persons.

    The devil is in overdrive to destroy families.  That's the last bastion of society that still reflects some catholic sanity.  Do you and your spouse pray the daily rosary together?  I honestly believe this needs to be a priority.  A non-negotiable.  You need Our Lady's help.  Your wife, especially, needs Our Lady.
    We were praying the rosary together but she has gotten to the point where she only prays with me if she is in a good mood. Sometimes we pray our morning prayer together, but that's gotten much less.

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    « Reply #199 on: Today at 12:06:00 PM »
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  • I’m guessing you’re one of them? :fryingpan:
    Yeah, I went too far with that one. Time for me to move on.


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    « Reply #200 on: Today at 12:19:15 PM »
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  • To the OP, from a man who has been married 30 years to a wife who still completely ignores Church teaching on submission to her husband.

    Her lack of submission to me almost drove me into apostasy. And the anger over the situation definitely drove me into much grave sin. I convinced myself that I had been deceived and trapped by this woman...blah, blah, blah.

    My solution (not acted upon, thank God) was to leave the marriage, because (as I rationalized) "God surely could not be happy with her behavior." In my head, I had a good reason for "fixing the problem." God was on my side, right? And the fix would be divorce or separation or whatever.

    But later I realized that I was looking at the situation all wrong. God had given me a Cross to bear, and I was constantly trying to find a way to dispose of my Cross. That is my nature. I am a problem-solver. Her behavior clearly contradicted God's plan for a happy marriage. This problematic behavior needed to be fixed, so that I could be happy.

    No, this was all wrong. The problem is and always was threefold: me, myself and I...the unholy trinity.

    God did not put me in this world to live out some kind of marital bliss in an earthly paradise with a wife that submits to my every command. I was not put here "to be happy." I was put in this world to suffer and yearn for true eternal bliss in Heaven with God. But that true eternal bliss is only open to those who keep God's commandments in this life and walk in the footsteps of Our Lord.

    I realized that my marriage woes were actually my opportunity to merit Heaven. If I accepted and embraced that suffering, I would be on the path to Heaven. If I complained and acted in certain ways to avoid that suffering, I would be on the path to damnation.

    You took a vow that included the phrase "...for better or for worse...." Accept your Cross and thank God that you are not confined to a wheelchair slowly dying from MS for 30 years like my wife's aunt was. God gives each of us a special Cross intended to test our love for Him. Love God by acknowledging and welcoming the chance to suffer in small ways in imitation of His infinite suffering for us.
    Yes, I have come to believe the same. It makes the most sense due to my sinful past. I would never divorce or separate from her unless there was a very good reason to separate and of course a priest would need to advise on this, but that's the last thing i would want. I have a family now. I don't want that destroyed. Divorce is obviously not an option. There is no such thing.

    What about the kids though? What are they to think? Doesn't that set a bad example for them? Maybe not? Maybe they understand your suffering? And the wife, she will have to pay for her disobedience on that dreadful day? Maybe she will see her errors before then hopefully. Hopefully in time it gets better if God allows.

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    « Reply #201 on: Today at 12:30:12 PM »
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  • We were praying the rosary together but she has gotten to the point where she only prays with me if she is in a good mood. Sometimes we pray our morning prayer together, but that's gotten much less.
    As St Paul tells us, the believing spouse can sanctify an unbelieving one.  (1 Corinth 7).  So, i'd start ramping up your prayers.  Say the full Rosary as often as possible.  You'll eventually see a change.  Our Lady never loses. 

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    « Reply #202 on: Today at 12:33:15 PM »
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  • To the OP, from a man who has been married 30 years to a wife who still completely ignores Church teaching on submission to her husband.

    Her lack of submission to me almost drove me into apostasy. And the anger over the situation definitely drove me into much grave sin. I convinced myself that I had been deceived and trapped by this woman...blah, blah, blah.

    My solution (not acted upon, thank God) was to leave the marriage, because (as I rationalized) "God surely could not be happy with her behavior." In my head, I had a good reason for "fixing the problem." God was on my side, right? And the fix would be divorce or separation or whatever.

    But later I realized that I was looking at the situation all wrong. God had given me a Cross to bear, and I was constantly trying to find a way to dispose of my Cross. That is my nature. I am a problem-solver. Her behavior clearly contradicted God's plan for a happy marriage. This problematic behavior needed to be fixed, so that I could be happy.

    No, this was all wrong. The problem is and always was threefold: me, myself and I...the unholy trinity.

    God did not put me in this world to live out some kind of marital bliss in an earthly paradise with a wife that submits to my every command. I was not put here "to be happy." I was put in this world to suffer and yearn for true eternal bliss in Heaven with God. But that true eternal bliss is only open to those who keep God's commandments in this life and walk in the footsteps of Our Lord.

    I realized that my marriage woes were actually my opportunity to merit Heaven. If I accepted and embraced that suffering, I would be on the path to Heaven. If I complained and acted in certain ways to avoid that suffering, I would be on the path to damnation.

    You took a vow that included the phrase "...for better or for worse...." Accept your Cross and thank God that you are not confined to a wheelchair slowly dying from MS for 30 years like my wife's aunt was. God gives each of us a special Cross intended to test our love for Him. Love God by acknowledging and welcoming the chance to suffer in small ways in imitation of His infinite suffering for us.

    I am the same as you and in a similar situation to the user who made the opening post.

    Your words are wise. Easier said than done, as usual.

    I congratulate you on 30 years of fight. I have not made it to 10 yet.

    May God help us.:incense:


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    « Reply #203 on: Today at 01:14:00 PM »
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  • I don’t feel obligated to defend all women, just the women who are being labeled unjustly. He doesn’t say “most” women or “worldly” women, he simply says women, which I assume means all women.
    Who bombed Pearl Harbour? Were all Japanese involved? 

    I gave the example of my parents and what caused my father to leave the family home. This isn't mother issues. I  believe that I committed no sin against the 4th commandment. I love my parents and have moved on decades ago. 

    I hope and pray the originale poster can repair his home. I would rather live in Soviet Russia than suffer the psychological warfare that some women wage on their husbands. 


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  • Who bombed Pearl Harbour? Were all Japanese involved?

    I gave the example of my parents and what caused my father to leave the family home. This isn't mother issues. I  believe that I committed no sin against the 4th commandment. I love my parents and have moved on decades ago.

    I hope and pray the originale poster can repair his home. I would rather live in Soviet Russia than suffer the psychological warfare that some women wage on their husbands.
    Ok. I apologize for not giving you the benefit of the doubt. 

    I pray the same. 

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  • Wife defrosts meat on the floor in its packaging that is open.

    Anyone do this?

    :laugh1:  Why is this thread so long and still going???

    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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  • Be sure once it's on the floor that nobody steps on it and for heaven's sake keep the dog away from it.. 

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    « Reply #207 on: Today at 04:31:43 PM »
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  • To the OP, from a man who has been married 30 years to a wife who still completely ignores Church teaching on submission to her husband.

    Her lack of submission to me almost drove me into apostasy. And the anger over the situation definitely drove me into much grave sin. I convinced myself that I had been deceived and trapped by this woman...blah, blah, blah.

    My solution (not acted upon, thank God) was to leave the marriage, because (as I rationalized) "God surely could not be happy with her behavior." In my head, I had a good reason for "fixing the problem." God was on my side, right? And the fix would be divorce or separation or whatever.

    But later I realized that I was looking at the situation all wrong. God had given me a Cross to bear, and I was constantly trying to find a way to dispose of my Cross. That is my nature. I am a problem-solver. Her behavior clearly contradicted God's plan for a happy marriage. This problematic behavior needed to be fixed, so that I could be happy.

    No, this was all wrong. The problem is and always was threefold: me, myself and I...the unholy trinity.

    God did not put me in this world to live out some kind of marital bliss in an earthly paradise with a wife that submits to my every command. I was not put here "to be happy." I was put in this world to suffer and yearn for true eternal bliss in Heaven with God. But that true eternal bliss is only open to those who keep God's commandments in this life and walk in the footsteps of Our Lord.

    I realized that my marriage woes were actually my opportunity to merit Heaven. If I accepted and embraced that suffering, I would be on the path to Heaven. If I complained and acted in certain ways to avoid that suffering, I would be on the path to damnation.

    You took a vow that included the phrase "...for better or for worse...." Accept your Cross and thank God that you are not confined to a wheelchair slowly dying from MS for 30 years like my wife's aunt was. God gives each of us a special Cross intended to test our love for Him. Love God by acknowledging and welcoming the chance to suffer in small ways in imitation of His infinite suffering for us.
    I am the same as you and in a similar situation to the user who made the opening post.

    Your words are wise. Easier said than done, as usual.

    I congratulate you on 30 years of fight. I have not made it to 10 yet.

    May God help us.:incense:
    My heart goes out to the 2 of you, and the OP.  I am sure there are many more.  What the Devil has done to the family is atrocious, but we were warned.

    I am a woman and I am about to say something that women are not going to like.  Women took for themselves the power to corrupt, when Eve took the apple from the tree.  Man kept the corruption going when they took a bite of the apple.  I know that this is normally about pride and wanting to be like gods, but the apple seems to also represent the concupiscence of the flesh.  She has the fruit, she has control over who she entices to eat this fruit.  This is why she was put under submission to the man.  This is why men need to be sure to marry before eating the fruit (maybe even cut the fruit open to make sure that it is not rotten on the inside).  How do we reverse the trajectory?

    :pray::pray::pray: