Author Topic: Why is being pro-Hitler bad? (Read 11921 times)

John Grace · « **Reply #20 on:** April 03, 2012, 11:21:11 AM »

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As I said in a previous comment Hitler lost the faith. We can't overlook how he and Eva Braun ended their lives or fact it was not a valid wedding.Tragic. Both of them had grains of the Catholic faith.

There was occultism in some circles but this is easily refuted. Even Julius Evola supported "Tradition" as opposed to Tradition but actually towards end of his life called for restoration of Traditional Latin Mass. He had some strange ideas but I suppose when one hasn't Catholicism, they become misguided.

Few Catholics should object to a revolt against the modern world.

Based on authentic docuмents and writings, people like Heinrich Himmler, Alfred Rosenberg, Rudolf Hess, Martin Bormann, Richard Walther Darre etc. were the worst of the bunch. They promoted paganism, occultism, atheism, anti-Christianity, and outrageous racial theories. When it comes to Hitler, he was a misguided Catholic (or a heretic). His worst crime is exaggerated nationalism and wanting Protestants and Catholics to "look passed their differences" and be "German brothers".

It's goes back to original point of turning away from God and losing the faith. I wouldn't have an objection to "Blood and Soil" It's common sense and natural.Blood and soil make up the people of a Nation.

John Grace · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2012, 11:24:57 AM »

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Hitler's ѕυιcιdє (?) was reported by the Soviets, so take that with a grain of salt. No body was ever produced.

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Some National Socialist theorists held to strange ideas of "ridding the nation of undesirables" (meaning the handicapped, the barren, the mentally retarded, etc.), but this was not the view of every party member,

A shameful and unacceptable view for a Catholic or anybody to hold. It's a diabolical idea never mind being a strange idea. A eugenics mindset is widespread in society today.

No one is disputed that (certainly not me). I'm just pointing out that people shouldn't take the views of one or two people, or a minority, and apply it to every member. Hitler believed things which Rosenberg despised, and Rosenberg believed things which Hitler despised. So on and so forth.

Indeed and I would be of the view it was not opinion of every party member.

clare · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2012, 11:24:59 AM »

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It's goes back to original point of turning away from God and losing the faith. I wouldn't have an objection to "Blood and Soil" It's common sense and natural.Blood and soil make up the people of a Nation.

This is just not Catholic teaching.

clare · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2012, 11:27:34 AM »

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A eugenics mindset is widespread in society today.

Indeed. And opposition to valid, fruitful marriages between people who will produce mixed race children would seem to be part of that mindset.

John Grace · « **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2012, 11:37:21 AM »

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A eugenics mindset is widespread in society today.

Indeed. And opposition to valid, fruitful marriages between people who will produce mixed race children would seem to be part of that mindset.

Old ground here so thus ends my contribution. The points have been made really.