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Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2013, 09:32:39 PM »
Taylor was "ordained" by a man named Luther.  Luther normally sought his vocations through ads in the National Enquirer magazine under the heading of "become a priest."   His "lines" are strictly of the Old Catholic pseudo-Catholic groups that Luther and Boucher came from.

Taylor, it is reported, "exchanged consecrations" with a fellow named Merrill Adamson of San Francisco.  Adamson was  ordained by Old Catholic Thadeus Alioto.  It is not certain if and when he was received back into the Catholic Church after this irregular and sinful ordination.   Married bishop Urbina consecrated Adamson.

Unfortunately for the Catholic faithful who are not astute on these matters, Taylor and company now make the audacious claim of being "Thuc bishops" and in agreement with just about every shade of traditionalist under the sun.  Recently Taylor changed the name of his many headed organization.

Taylor does not have the succession of Archbishop Thuc and this is clearly established.  At the time that Adamson proceeded to consecrate Taylor, Taylor organization issued a caveat which they published on their website.  The caveat stated the reconsecration was NOT DONE FOR VALIDITY but for INTERNAL purposs of the Society of the Virgin Mary.  So we have it, this clear lack of understanding as regards the transmission of holy orders (if a "reconsecration" is not done for validity, then why do it at all???).  This caveat disqualified a Catholic intention to receive valid holy orders (at least presumed so, given the background of Adamson).

A Catholic must have the intention to receive holy orders.  To state that you don't have the intention for validity means you've received nothing.   This is basic people.

Taylor has a long history of ordinations and consecrations of various people from a variety of backgrounds:  from strict Sede Vacantist to those who are involved with the occult and Gnosticism.  A Jason Spadafore (who ordained Bruno, consecrated by Taylor) comes to mind.

Check the theology and canon law manuals, or better yet, ask Fr. Cekada or Bishop Dolan, Bishop Pivarunas, Bishop Sanborn, or any of the bone fide bishops of the Thuc line if you have any doubts.  
 

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Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2013, 03:52:05 PM »
Who is Father giustino?  And how is he affiliated with Bishop Taylor?
I heard this priest and bishop Taylor are invalid.  Catholics from st Jude's and the resisistance are going to Saint Mary the Virgin Church which would be a invalid Mass.


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Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2013, 02:02:17 AM »
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Taylor is not a bishop, as far as I am concerned. I was mixed up, years ago with some of the men he "ordained" that led me to do extensive research into his lines. I no longer have the resources to cite, but I will give you the short of it. He will argue that he has lines through Archbishop Thuc.  Yes, Abp. Thuc's ordinations and consecrations are valid but here is the issue, which I will try to carefully explain...
1. There is a long line of orders and priests leading up to and before Taylor, even those involved with Thuc, in Taylor's lineage

2. It is not verifiable that the some of the priestly ordinations in Taylor's lines are valid and there is reason to doubt the form and validity

3. It is not verifiable that the Roman rite or another approved Eastern rite was used in these ordinations

4. There are ordinations and lines in Taylor's line weaving in and out of schismatic groups, such as the Brazilian National Catholic Church and other so-called autocellaphous churches (read: guys living with their 80 year old mom playing bishop in the garage)

5. Some of these schismatics may have had valid orders but the issue is whether they used the actual Roman rite of ordination without any changes.

6. The rites used by the schismatic groups are not verifiable, unless there are pictures and audio recordings. If someone was ignorant and foolish enough to be a witness, they still might not even have known better.

7. Many of the involved men are dead and cannot be questioned or given the chance to explain or retract their actions

I wish I had more in digital format to give you.



Taylor also did a mail order type deal, where you could send him money and he sent you a certificate as being part of some kind of order, lay order or something of that likeness. What he did escapes me, but it earned him the name of Conman Taylor.

He was also trusted by the late Fr. Hector Bolduc, who I knew personally. Fr. Bolduc, for the good he did was not careful about checking into ordinations. I don't think it was malice but that for whatever reason, Taylor wasn't the only mistake he made. He installed two men who were old Catholics at an SSPX chapel, and they were not conditionally ordained. I know many people, including myself loved Fr. Bolduc, he wasn't careful. I was actually personally affected by his ivolvement and trust with the Taylor line and it was a mess for me. Once I was made aware I set out to straighten out the problem and at the same time, a former SSPX priest, who also knew of the situation, helped me rectify the incident. Initially, it was a different former SSPX priest and some laymen who tipped me off.


Anyways, STAY AWAY! It is a mess. Only go to traditional priests and bishops with clean and verifiable lines.



Great advice!



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Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2013, 02:54:56 PM »
All the above is very correct.

Also to be addressed is the fact that Taylor admitted (and so you'll note he now removed his website) that his "conditional" consecration from Adamson was NOT DONE FOR VALIDITY.  Now again, what is it done for?  Taylor tells us:  "for an internal" reason for the Society of the Virgin Mary.

It appears that a "Bishop Macek" also at one point "enthroned" Taylor during some type of ceremonial in his tiny Chapel.  This is nothing but shear Old Catholic shenanigans at best.  These are men who clearly have no grasp on Catholic ceremonial or teaching, or else they would not conduct themselves in this manner.

The Taylor group is apparently now working with the following to form some type of "new organization" to gain entrance into traditional Chapels.  Among the participants are a Fr. Gabriel Tetherow, Louis Montelongo, Merrill Brian Adamson, Pablo Dolorosa, Jesse Milagrosa, a Taylor product named Macek and another product of Taylor (via Jason Spadafore) and consecrated by Taylor, a fellow named Bruno and a few others.


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Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2013, 02:58:03 PM »
Poor Fr. Bolduc has a long, long history of involvement with Old Catholics and such.  It was he that initially contributed to the "famous nine" who split from the Society of St. Pius X.  The "nine" had complained (and rightly so) to His Excellency, Msgr. Lefebvre that Fr. Bolduc was permitting Old Catholic clergy to offer Mass at St. Mary Kansas.  Lefebvre put a stop to it.

While he might have "meant well" he made serious mistakes in this regard.  Meaning well and doing well (especially as regards sacramental validity or insuring souls were being administered to by properly ordained Catholic priests) is something that he failed miserably at.  Pray for his soul.