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What is the primary reason that you are less active, or no longer active, on CathInfo?

Would like to be more active but no longer have the time due to external factors unrelated to CI.
2 (11.8%)
Think/feel that the forum dynamics have become unhealthy overall and will/would resume participation if/when things change. Please share thoughts on necessary changes.
7 (41.2%)
Primarily as a protest to a specific policy or member. Please share.
2 (11.8%)
Think/feel that continued participation, or participation to the degree formerly practiced, is counterproductive for me at this time.
4 (23.5%)
Other. Please share.
2 (11.8%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Author Topic: What is the primary reason that you are less active, or no longer active, on CI?  (Read 2461 times)

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My reason for not posting much anymore is that there are better forums.

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You use feminist and boomer like bad words and you justify it because you think it is true.  If you know that these words will trigger someone to behave poorly, should you use them?  Are you doing the serpents work by tempting a women to sin?

If a women said you were young and naive, would you say "Oh.  Thank you for noticing.  I will try to become more mature by listening and learning.  It is actually really selfish to think that you have more wisdom than an older person.

This forum shouldn't be geared to anyone's emotions, but if we were exactly what we should be, then we would all be saints and probably not spend time here on CI.
It's definitely geared towards your emotions. Ever since you arrived, it's been constant drama and attention-seeking from you. Well feminist is something you shouldn't be and 'boomer' has the meaning it does because of the entitled, out of touch, insensitive boomer generation. If a boomer doesn't act like a boomer, then they won't be called that, it's that simple. A lot of old people are not that smart but they think they're owed respect because they're old lol. And a lot of them don't respect young people's opinions. You can learn from an old person's mistakes so you don't screw up your life but that doesn't mean they're advice is good. 


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It's definitely geared towards your emotions. Ever since you arrived, it's been constant drama and attention-seeking from you. Well feminist is something you shouldn't be and 'boomer' has the meaning it does because of the entitled, out of touch, insensitive boomer generation. If a boomer doesn't act like a boomer, then they won't be called that, it's that simple. A lot of old people are not that smart but they think they're owed respect because they're old lol. And a lot of them don't respect young people's opinions. You can learn from an old person's mistakes so you don't screw up your life but that doesn't mean they're advice is good.
Not everyone here on CI thinks the same as you.  The drama comes from two people engaging in drama.  A person cannot have drama all by themselves.

You want respect, then you have to give it. 
1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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A person cannot have drama all by themselves.
:laugh1: :facepalm:

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Not everyone here on CI thinks the same as you.  The drama comes from two people engaging in drama.  A person cannot have drama all by themselves.

You want respect, then you have to give it.
You seem to create drama out of thin air. Maybe practice being meek and docile for once and you might get some respect. A woman constantly yapping away and not listening is going to be seen as a clown. 


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I might know who you are, but have you thought about maybe some of the things he calls you are true like you being a feminist and boomer? I notice a lot of trad women on this forum act like this and aren't called out that often. Should this forum be geared towards the feelings of women?
The only thing about which he is correct is the time period of my birth. 1956. Since “Boomer” has become an insult, there are better words with which to convey my age. Since when is the date one’s birth something bad? God chose it without my input just as He chooses the date of my death.  You think you know me? If so, please state what makes me a feminist. My birth year doesn’t make me a feminist, so you’ll need to get more specific. Make a list and I’ll be glad to confirm or deny most of them, FYI. 
I see you don’t include the other insults, so you must know they’re likely untrue. 
This forum should be geared to the feelings of others, male or female, within the constraints of Truth and Christian charity. 

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My reason for not posting much anymore is that there are better forums.


False.

At least if by "forums" you mean "Traditional Catholic forums". I know there are much larger forums for topics like gardening and tractors.

Firstly, I see you're still keeping an eye on CathInfo. No one is even keeping an eye on those "other forums". So let's get that out of the way.

There are no "better forums" than CathInfo. CathInfo is the largest, most active BY FAR Traditional Catholic Forum on the Internet.

Right off the bat, website-based "message boards" or forums are not exactly popular anymore. Everything is going to social media (a few huge websites: facebook, youtube, twitter, etc.) and Discord now (which isn't permanent, searchable, or indexed by search engines).

You might prefer "no forum" which is what most Trads go with -- and choosing a micro-forum or a forum with almost no traffic is pretty much the equivalent of this.
You might do a bit of Facebook or other "mainstream social media", talking to people IRL, or even resorting to pagan non-Catholic friends in lieu of Traditional Catholic friendships and interaction.
Lukewarm, worldly Catholics seem to go with this option the most. They aren't into "church stuff" outside of Mass once a week, so they don't see the need to seek out Trads specifically for friendships, etc. They just live like everyone else in the world.
But you can't really say there are other CathInfos out there that are better.

If they are better, how are they better? Less traffic? 5 posts a day? A couple dozen like-minded friends? An echo chamber? Highly moderated?

I know I'm the moderator, so I'm a bit biased, but I like to think I'm doing the best job a man can do as moderator FOR A FORUM OF THIS SIZE. For smaller, lesser forums, it's easy to "perfectly moderate" or micro-manage a forum with 1 dozen active members and almost no daily traffic.

The only real thing you can criticize about CathInfo is the "mission statement", the leadership itself, the moderation style. Do you have a problem with free speech? Discussion of cօռspιʀαcιҽs? Free discussion on various positions on the Crisis in the Church? Those are things I have to own as Moderator and which I will defend to the death.

And the fact that no other Trad forum has surpassed CathInfo -- not even come close -- is a vindication of my moderation policy (and the fundamental "mission statement" of CathInfo over other possible mission statements).
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1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"


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Not everyone here on CI thinks the same as you.  The drama comes from two people engaging in drama.  A person cannot have drama all by themselves.

You want respect, then you have to give it.
I just hope everybody tries their best and gets along as well as possible


John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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You seem to create drama out of thin air. Maybe practice being meek and docile for once and you might get some respect. A woman constantly yapping away and not listening is going to be seen as a clown.
Don't you actually mean be a doormat?  Maybe if I was a saint I would be able to turn the other cheek when people who don't know me lie about me on the internet.
1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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The only thing about which he is correct is the time period of my birth. 1956. Since “Boomer” has become an insult, there are better words with which to convey my age. Since when is the date one’s birth something bad? God chose it without my input just as He chooses the date of my death.  You think you know me? If so, please state what makes me a feminist. My birth year doesn’t make me a feminist, so you’ll need to get more specific. Make a list and I’ll be glad to confirm or deny most of them, FYI.
I see you don’t include the other insults, so you must know they’re likely untrue.
This forum should be geared to the feelings of others, male or female, within the constraints of Truth and Christian charity.
You're taking it personally. How do you think Millenials and GenZs feel about being made fun of? If you're not that stereotype of a boomer, then it shouldn't offend you. Why are you offended for your generation? You should know the stereotype of Boomers within your peers. The fact that you're getting really offended maybe means that it's true and you're projecting. Or you lack thick skin. I don't care about the other insults but the fact that you're clutching your pearls means you're overthinking the situation. If what is said isn't true about you, then why does it affect you? 


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You're taking it personally. How do you think Millenials and GenZs feel about being made fun of? If you're not that stereotype of a boomer, then it shouldn't offend you. Why are you offended for your generation? You should know the stereotype of Boomers within your peers. The fact that you're getting really offended maybe means that it's true and you're projecting. Or you lack thick skin. I don't care about the other insults but the fact that you're clutching your pearls means you're overthinking the situation. If what is said isn't true about you, then why does it affect you?

I know this isn't directed at me, but i want to know how many times Millenials and GenZs has been used on CI, like you are using "boomer"?  Is there anyway to find the comparison?  

Side note:  It seems to me that if the shoe was on the other foot and a term you didn't like was being used you would "clutch your pearls" as well.  I think we need to admit we all have emotional reactions and if we were truly trying to do right by God, we wouldn't let our emotions take away from a discussion of different opinions.  

Personal attacks are never needed to make a point in a discussion.  If you have to resort to being personal, then you probably lost your position in the discussion.
1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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I know this isn't directed at me, but i want to know how many times Millenials and GenZs has been used on CI, like you are using "boomer"?  Is there anyway to find the comparison? 

Side note:  It seems to me that if the shoe was on the other foot and a term you didn't like was being used you would "clutch your pearls" as well.  I think we need to admit we all have emotional reactions and if we were truly trying to do right by God, we wouldn't let our emotions take away from a discussion of different opinions. 

Personal attacks are never needed to make a point in a discussion.  If you have to resort to being personal, then you probably lost your position in the discussion.
People make fun of boomers, because generally speaking, the generalizations are true.  If one is taking it personally, that's on them.  A generalization is not a personal attack.  Don't be a snowflake.

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Quote from: Matthew

False.

At least if by "forums" you mean "Traditional Catholic forums". I know there are much larger forums for topics like gardening and tractors.

Firstly, I see you're still keeping an eye on CathInfo. No one is even keeping an eye on those "other forums". So let's get that out of the way.

There are no "better forums" than CathInfo. CathInfo is the largest, most active BY FAR Traditional Catholic Forum on the Internet.

Right off the bat, website-based "message boards" or forums are not exactly popular anymore. Everything is going to social media (a few huge websites: facebook, youtube, twitter, etc.) and Discord now (which isn't permanent, searchable, or indexed by search engines).

You might prefer "no forum" which is what most Trads go with -- and choosing a micro-forum or a forum with almost no traffic is pretty much the equivalent of this.
You might do a bit of Facebook or other "mainstream social media", talking to people IRL, or even resorting to pagan non-Catholic friends in lieu of Traditional Catholic friendships and interaction.
Lukewarm, worldly Catholics seem to go with this option the most. They aren't into "church stuff" outside of Mass once a week, so they don't see the need to seek out Trads specifically for friendships, etc. They just live like everyone else in the world.
But you can't really say there are other CathInfos out there that are better.

If they are better, how are they better? Less traffic? 5 posts a day? A couple dozen like-minded friends? An echo chamber? Highly moderated?

I know I'm the moderator, so I'm a bit biased, but I like to think I'm doing the best job a man can do as moderator FOR A FORUM OF THIS SIZE. For smaller, lesser forums, it's easy to "perfectly moderate" or micro-manage a forum with 1 dozen active members and almost no daily traffic.

The only real thing you can criticize about CathInfo is the "mission statement", the leadership itself, the moderation style. Do you have a problem with free speech? Discussion of cօռspιʀαcιҽs? Free discussion on various positions on the Crisis in the Church? Those are things I have to own as Moderator and which I will defend to the death.

And the fact that no other Trad forum has surpassed CathInfo -- not even come close -- is a vindication of my moderation policy (and the fundamental "mission statement" of CathInfo over other possible mission statements).
Matthew, your stewardship of CathInfo has kept it at the center of the traditional Catholic world for nearly two decades. It remains the one place where much of the Resistance was preserved, long before the rise of video platforms or new apostolates. That is something God will reward.

But because of that influence, I ask this with sincerity. Would you consider creating a separate section, like the Feeney subforum, for those who are holding fast to the hardline position of Archbishop Lefebvre and the pre-2012 stance of Bishop Williamson?

There are many souls just now coming into the fight. They are discovering the crisis in the Church, and then the crisis within the Resistance. They are not here to stir trouble. They are searching for clarity, and many are asking real questions about serious errors that can no longer be ignored: the promotion of Novus Ordo miracles, the silence on conditional ordinations, and the cover-up of immoral clergy.

These issues deserve a place where they can be addressed without shutting down discussion. Not because anyone demands “free speech,” but because truth must be safeguarded, and error must be corrected. That is Catholic. That is charity.

You have always exercised great responsibility over this forum. All we are asking is that a space be opened for those who are trying to remain exactly where Archbishop Lefebvre always stood. Not behind him. Not ahead of him. Right where he stood.

For the good of souls, it is time.



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Matthew, your stewardship of CathInfo has kept it at the center of the traditional Catholic world for nearly two decades. It remains the one place where much of the Resistance was preserved, long before the rise of video platforms or new apostolates. That is something God will reward.

But because of that influence, I ask this with sincerity. Would you consider creating a separate section, like the Feeney subforum, for those who are holding fast to the hardline position of Archbishop Lefebvre and the pre-2012 stance of Bishop Williamson?

There are many souls just now coming into the fight. They are discovering the crisis in the Church, and then the crisis within the Resistance. They are not here to stir trouble. They are searching for clarity, and many are asking real questions about serious errors that can no longer be ignored: the promotion of Novus Ordo miracles, the silence on conditional ordinations, and the cover-up of immoral clergy.

These issues deserve a place where they can be addressed without shutting down discussion. Not because anyone demands “free speech,” but because truth must be safeguarded, and error must be corrected. That is Catholic. That is charity.

You have always exercised great responsibility over this forum. All we are asking is that a space be opened for those who are trying to remain exactly where Archbishop Lefebvre always stood. Not behind him. Not ahead of him. Right where he stood.

For the good of souls, it is time.
This is a great idea!!

And I will keep this anonymous to tell Matthew congrats, CI is far and away bar none the best trad forum out there, due  in large part to your moderation.