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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2024, 09:22:07 AM »
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  • “February 14th is Ash Wednesday* and a day of fast and abstinence. It is a grave obligation to keep this rule.

    * Ashes will be available Sunday February 18th”
    I am uncertain as to why this is posted with this thread, unless Mr./Miss/ Anonymous #29 is just a confused individual.

    In pre VII praxis it was very common for throats to also be blessed on the Sunday following the observance of St. Blaise, February 2, and for ashes to also be imposed on the Sunday following the observance of Ash Wednesday.  Not everyone was able to attend church on the actual day because of work or distance.


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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #31 on: February 14, 2024, 09:22:54 AM »
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  • The above post was mine.


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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #32 on: February 14, 2024, 11:24:12 AM »
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  • This was Noonan has up on the Diocesan website.

    Please be aware that there are churches in Central Florida who identify themselves as “catholic,” however are not Roman Catholic Churches or parishes of the Diocese of Orlando. These churches are not in full communion with the Pope and Bishops of the one Catholic Church governed by Apostolic See nor do they recognize authority of the Pope. 

    Some of these churches are affiliated with groups which left the communion of the Roman Catholic Church (for example Churches affiliated with the Society of Pope Pius X) while others are founded without a beginning in the communion of the Roman Catholic Church.

    To avoid confusion, please be aware that these churches are not reliable for their adherence to the Catholic faith as articulated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.  Therefore, attendance at a liturgical service on Sunday at one of these churches may not fulfill your obligation to attend Sunday Mass and participate in the Sacred Liturgy.

     Check the Diocese of Orlando website or call the Diocesan office at 407-246-4800 to determine if a church is affiliated with the Diocese of Orlando, under the leadership of Bishop John Noonan.

    https://www.orlandodiocese.org/celebration-of-mass-in-the-diocese-of-orlando/



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    « Reply #33 on: February 14, 2024, 11:41:14 AM »
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  • Wait and see what happens when Francis cancels their happy relationship.  

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    « Reply #34 on: February 14, 2024, 12:14:08 PM »
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  • This was Noonan has up on the Diocesan website.

    Please be aware that there are churches in Central Florida who identify themselves as “catholic,” however are not Roman Catholic Churches or parishes of the Diocese of Orlando. These churches are not in full communion with the Pope and Bishops of the one Catholic Church governed by Apostolic See nor do they recognize authority of the Pope. 

    Some of these churches are affiliated with groups which left the communion of the Roman Catholic Church (for example Churches affiliated with the Society of Pope Pius X) while others are founded without a beginning in the communion of the Roman Catholic Church.

    To avoid confusion, please be aware that these churches are not reliable for their adherence to the Catholic faith as articulated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.  Therefore, attendance at a liturgical service on Sunday at one of these churches may not fulfill your obligation to attend Sunday Mass and participate in the Sacred Liturgy.

     Check the Diocese of Orlando website or call the Diocesan office at 407-246-4800 to determine if a church is affiliated with the Diocese of Orlando, under the leadership of Bishop John Noonan.

    https://www.orlandodiocese.org/celebration-of-mass-in-the-diocese-of-orlando/
    Dear Jr1991,

    It's a Lenten miracle!  Please share the good news with Bishop Tissier de Mallerais!


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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #35 on: February 14, 2024, 12:47:16 PM »
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  • Some of these churches are affiliated with groups which left the communion of the Roman Catholic Church (for example Churches affiliated with the Society of Pope Pius X) while others are founded without a beginning in the communion of the Roman Catholic Church.

    The bishop doesn't understand.  The SSPX insists they are in communion with the pope and his Catholic Church.  And they would know, right?

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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #36 on: February 14, 2024, 04:51:37 PM »
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  • I am uncertain as to why this is posted with this thread, unless Mr./Miss/ Anonymous #29 is just a confused individual.

    In pre VII praxis it was very common for throats to also be blessed on the Sunday following the observance of St. Blaise, February 2, and for ashes to also be imposed on the Sunday following the observance of Ash Wednesday.  Not everyone was able to attend church on the actual day because of work or distance.
    Where I’m from, Ash Wednesday was on Wednesday.  It’s not Ash “Sunday”. Lol. 

      Even the novus Ordo in our area has Ash Wednesday on Wednesday.  They had several Masses and Ashes today.  From 8am, 12pm and tonight at 7pm.   


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    « Reply #37 on: February 14, 2024, 04:57:43 PM »
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  • Just talked to a pre Vatican II Catholic, Ash Wednesday was always on Wednesday.  

    The problem is 8 priests at one location while other chapels don’t even have one full time Priest when there should be.  



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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #38 on: February 14, 2024, 06:39:03 PM »
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  • The problem is 8 priests at one location while other chapels don’t even have one full time Priest when there should be. 

    Agreed.  Our priest (independent full-time) distributes ashes both on Wednesday and on the following Sunday (First Sunday of Lent), but if I can't make it Wednesday, I don't go on Sunday because ... well, it's the wrong day.

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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #39 on: February 14, 2024, 07:02:01 PM »
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  • Just talked to a pre Vatican II Catholic, Ash Wednesday was always on Wednesday. 

    The problem is 8 priests at one location while other chapels don’t even have one full time Priest when there should be. 
    I am a pre Vatican ll Catholic, and I know by my own experience that the majority of pre Vatican ll Catholics had walking distance to attend Ash Wednesday Mass. Nowadays there is not even a Sunday Mass to attend within 5 hrs car expedition. 
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    « Reply #40 on: February 14, 2024, 08:48:54 PM »
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  • I understand that there is a concern about the SSPX in Florida being out of control. This weekend, during the first weekend of Lent, SSPX Davie is hosting a fundraiser that includes the availability of fine cigars, alcoholic beverages, and excellent cuisine. The entry fee is $125,000, per person and it does not cover the cost of cigars and alcohol. After the event, it is unlikely that they will observe Lent with traditional penitential practices. Don't expect them to revert to sackcloth and ashes after the event. 


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    « Reply #41 on: February 14, 2024, 09:07:55 PM »
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  • This is the "Bishop" to whom SSPX Florida is submitting. 


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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #42 on: February 14, 2024, 11:39:33 PM »
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    Where I’m from, Ash Wednesday was on Wednesday.  It’s not Ash “Sunday”. Lol.
    Even the novus Ordo in our area has Ash Wednesday on Wednesday.


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    Just talked to a pre Vatican II Catholic, Ash Wednesday was always on Wednesday.
    I wonder sometimes about the reading comprehension of some.
     
    Yes, Ash Wednesday is indeed on Ash Wednesday, six weeks and four days before Easter Sunday, and the commemoration of St. Blaise, patron saint of diseases of the throat, is on February 3rd.  I NEVER said otherwise!  What I did say was that where I grew up as a pre VII Catholic (born June 1951, First Holy Communion May 1959), in addition to the blessing of throats on February 3rd and the distribution of ashes on Ash Wednesday, which was when the vast majority received those sacramental, the Church ALSO (not instead of) provided, on the following Sunday, the blessing of throats and the imposition of Ashes for those who were not able to attend church on February 3rd and Ash Wednesday.  Maybe this dispensation was up to the local ordinary or the pastor?  IDK.
     
    We still don’t know who Mr./Mrs./Miss (or maybe it’s Ms.) Anonymous #29 poster is, nor what was His/Her/It's purpose for posting some random presumable bulletin announcement, nor what was its source.
     
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     I am a pre Vatican ll Catholic, and I know by my own experience that the majority of pre Vatican ll Catholics had walking distance to attend Ash Wednesday Mass.
    Maybe true where the above poster lived, but I doubt true for “the majority”, it defiantly wasn’t where I lived.  Our farm was 20 miles from the closest church.  A priest from the parish offered a Low Mass on Sunday’s at the public school cafeteria, but not on Ash Wednesday nor other days not on Sunday.  All across rural America few lived closer than 10 miles from a church.



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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #43 on: February 15, 2024, 06:22:03 AM »
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  • This is the "Bishop" to whom SSPX Florida is submitting.

    Not just submitting but paying “homage”.

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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #44 on: February 15, 2024, 08:24:32 AM »
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  • This is the "Bishop" to whom SSPX Florida is submitting.


    From that photo angle at least, Noonan looks a lot like hellboy Jimmy Martin. Separated at birth?
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