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Author Topic: SSPX Fake Priests  (Read 116480 times)

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Re: SSPX Fake Priests
« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2025, 01:45:26 PM »
*  An invalid priest = a fake priest.
*  Doubtful priests must be treated as invalid, per canon law.
*  The new rites are doubtful, so new rite priests are doubtful.
*  Thus, new rite priests are doubtful and fake.


*  To fix the situation, The Church created 'conditional' rites, for doubtful cases.
*  The new-sspx sometimes uses these, sometimes doesn't.
*  Ordinations and Episcopal consecrations are public events, and the laity have a right to know.  Sacraments aren't secret.
*  The new-sspx is lacking in transparency.
*  The new-sspx is wrong for not following canon law.

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Re: SSPX Fake Priests
« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2025, 01:59:10 PM »
*  An invalid priest = a fake priest.
*  Doubtful priests must be treated as invalid, per canon law.
*  The new rites are doubtful, so new rite priests are doubtful.
*  Thus, new rite priests are doubtful and fake.


*  To fix the situation, The Church created 'conditional' rites, for doubtful cases.
*  The new-sspx sometimes uses these, sometimes doesn't.
*  Ordinations and Episcopal consecrations are public events, and the laity have a right to know.  Sacraments aren't secret.
*  The new-sspx is lacking in transparency.
*  The new-sspx is wrong for not following canon law.
Doubtful to whom? Just because you have doubt about some priests doesn't mean they are doubtful. That's the nature of doubt. It isn't certain, it's doubt. Your doubt is only your opinion. They can be as sinful as anyone and still be legit.  Who are you to judge validity? You can't possibly know all the particulars of a consecration, of the status of the consecrating bishop, Novus Ordo or not, nor the status of the priest. If you have doubts about anyone, take it to the Church, not to the laity. Or just don't go to his mass. It's very simple.  If the Church doesn't listen to your complaint, stay away from the priest you in whom you have doubt. But you are not free to publicly cast doubt on anyone, simply because you can't possibly KNOW everything about the circuмstance. You have to be able to prove your case, then take it to Church authorities before you speak. This is for your sake as well as those who you very well might be mistaken about.    


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Re: SSPX Fake Priests
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2025, 02:25:04 PM »
Doubtful to whom? Just because you have doubt about some priests doesn't mean they are doubtful. That's the nature of doubt. It isn't certain, it's doubt. Your doubt is only your opinion. They can be as sinful as anyone and still be legit.  Who are you to judge validity? You can't possibly know all the particulars of a consecration, of the status of the consecrating bishop, Novus Ordo or not, nor the status of the priest. If you have doubts about anyone, take it to the Church, not to the laity. Or just don't go to his mass. It's very simple.  If the Church doesn't listen to your complaint, stay away from the priest you in whom you have doubt. But you are not free to publicly cast doubt on anyone, simply because you can't possibly KNOW everything about the circuмstance. You have to be able to prove your case, then take it to Church authorities before you speak. This is for your sake as well as those who you very well might be mistaken about.   
This person is smart, very well-spoken, very well-informed!  :-) 

Re: SSPX Fake Priests
« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2025, 02:26:43 PM »
Doubtful to whom?
Most all trads to the right of neo-SSPXers :facepalm:

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They can be as sinful as anyone and still be legit.
Nothing to do with validity of ordinations :facepalm:

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Who are you to judge validity?
Any Catholic concerned with salvation should be as certain as possible that the sacraments he is receiving are valid :facepalm:


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You can't possibly know all the particulars of a consecration, of the status of the consecrating bishop, Novus Ordo or not, nor the status of the priest
New rite of ordination is an ALTERED RITE, deviating from what Pius XII taught concerning ordinations. This altered rite was created by the same heretics who destroyed the mass :facepalm:



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You can't possibly know all the particulars of a consecration, of the status of the consecrating bishop, Novus Ordo or not, nor the status of the priest. If you have doubts about anyone, take it to the Church, not to the laity. Or just don't go to his mass. It's very simple. If the Church doesn't listen to your complaint, stay away from the priest you in whom you have doubt. But you are not free to publicly cast doubt on anyone, simply because you can't possibly KNOW everything about the circuмstance. You have to be able to prove your case, then take it to Church authorities before you speak. This is for your sake as well as those who you very well might be mistaken about. 

Okay, who is this jackass? :facepalm:

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Re: SSPX Fake Priests
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2025, 02:30:59 PM »
:facepalm:  You still don't grasp the problem with doubtful priests, do you?  Canon Law says we must treat them as invalid.  If you attend a doubtful priest's sacraments, you're committing grave sin.  There's no debate; that's canon law.
 
:facepalm::facepalm: I grasp the problem with NO priests, you don't. 

Oh, and post the canon law that  "says we must treat them as invalid.  If you attend a doubtful priest's sacraments, you're committing grave sin."