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Re: Effeminate lace albs
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2019, 08:02:15 PM »
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  • Anonymity eliminates biased answers and ad hominems, among other things.

    Or, rather, no it doesn't, you idiot.

    Offline Nadir

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    Re: Effeminate lace albs
    « Reply #31 on: June 24, 2019, 08:14:05 PM »
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  • Or, rather, no it doesn't, you idiot.
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    Re: Effeminate lace albs
    « Reply #32 on: June 26, 2019, 02:29:05 PM »
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  • Or, rather, no it doesn't, you idiot.
    Insulting people isn't actually ad hominem. Ad hominem is only when you use it to make an argument. Like: "This man is an idiot, he has no idea what he's talking about." But making a valid point and then adding an insult at the end doesn't make it ad hominem. 

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    Re: Effeminate lace albs
    « Reply #33 on: June 26, 2019, 08:35:22 PM »
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  • It seems hypocritical that effeminacy is condemned while at the same time the priests wear albs with lace; it looks totally effeminate.

    Ever since I saw these albs with lace, the thought immediately came to my mind, and I would honestly not know what to say if someone made this objection.
    In this particular case I think it's just a matter of familiarity. I was born in the 60's in Mexico and used to go to mass in churches built between the 17th and 19th centuries, neoclassical and baroque styles. Priest's vestments were very rich and full of ornate, matching the richness of the altars. In my child eyes, when the changes came, plain albs and chasubles seemed to me out of place and "quasi protestant". Below is a picture of a priest when we was killed during the Cristero war. You can see the lace in the alb. Also, a picture of the altar of the Our Lady of Guadalupe church in Guadalajara. Rich vestments make sense (the table in the center was added in the early 70's). My parents got married in this church and also I was baptized there. By the way, on the bottom left side you can see a white plate dedicated to Anacleto Gonzalez Flores, martyred during the war in a place about 5 blocks from this church. In sum, lace albs no big deal for me because of my background.

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    Re: Effeminate lace albs
    « Reply #34 on: June 26, 2019, 08:36:44 PM »
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  • In this particular case I think it's just a matter of familiarity. I was born in the 60's in Mexico and used to go to mass in churches built between the 17th and 19th centuries, neoclassical and baroque styles. Priest's vestments were very rich and full of ornate, matching the richness of the altars. In my child eyes, when the changes came, plain albs and chasubles seemed to me out of place and "quasi protestant". Below is a picture of a priest when we was killed during the Cristero war. You can see the lace in the alb. Also, a picture of the altar of the Our Lady of Guadalupe church in Guadalajara. Rich vestments make sense (the table in the center was added in the early 70's). My parents got married in this church and also I was baptized there. By the way, on the bottom left side you can see a white plate dedicated to Anacleto Gonzalez Flores, martyred during the war in a place about 5 blocks from this church. In sum, lace albs no big deal for me because of my background.


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    Re: Effeminate lace albs
    « Reply #35 on: June 27, 2019, 01:11:34 AM »
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