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So many Catholics are Freemasons?
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2015, 09:06:57 PM »
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    But wasn't +ABL  ordained by a self proclaimed Mason?
    What does that mean to the society?

    Yes, Archbishop Lefebvre's Bishop Lienart who ordained and consecrated him confessed on his deathbed that he was a freemason. Some claim that because of this all of the SSPX priests are not truly priests.
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    So many Catholics are Freemasons?
    « Reply #16 on: October 10, 2015, 10:46:20 PM »
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    • Why are so many Catholics , Masons?

    They are probably poorly catechized.
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    So many Catholics are Freemasons?
    « Reply #17 on: November 03, 2015, 08:18:42 PM »
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    • It is not possible for a Catholic to be a Mason.

    Quote from: Canon Law
    Those who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort, which plot against the Church or legitimate civil authority, incur ipso facto an excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See (c. 2335).


    Any Catholic who joins a Masonic sect ceases to be Catholic.
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    So many Catholics are Freemasons?
    « Reply #18 on: November 03, 2015, 08:37:13 PM »
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    It is not possible for a Catholic to be a Mason.

    Quote from: Canon Law
    Those who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort, which plot against the Church or legitimate civil authority, incur ipso facto an excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See (c. 2335).


    Any Catholic who joins a Masonic sect ceases to be Catholic.

    I believe they are only excommunicated if they knew it was wrong to join the Masonic  sect, so some could be innocent. I remember a prominent Traditional Catholic was a member of a Masonic sect for business connections reasons. People found out about it and told him it was a sin to be a member and he did a mea culpa and resigned his membership in the sect. I don't think he was truly excommunicated because he didn't know better.
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    So many Catholics are Freemasons?
    « Reply #19 on: November 03, 2015, 08:47:15 PM »
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    It is not possible for a Catholic to be a Mason.

    Quote from: Canon Law
    Those who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort, which plot against the Church or legitimate civil authority, incur ipso facto an excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See (c. 2335).


    Any Catholic who joins a Masonic sect ceases to be Catholic.

    I believe they are only excommunicated if they knew it was wrong to join the Masonic  sect, so some could be innocent. I remember a prominent Traditional Catholic was a member of a Masonic sect for business connections reasons. People found out about it and told him it was a sin to be a member and he did a mea culpa and resigned his membership in the sect. I don't think he was truly excommunicated because he didn't know better.


    This, I assume. There was a fallen police officer just a couple weeks ago here in Central MN and at his funeral, his friend said that he was a member of the local Masonic Lodge. It was televised on local TV. More than likely, it's just as you said, it's for business connections.

    I have a feeling this is how the vast majority of Freemasons are, that they don't know any better.
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    So many Catholics are Freemasons?
    « Reply #20 on: November 03, 2015, 09:56:47 PM »
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    • Maybe men like secret societies.  You can get a lot of back wiping done.  I know my husband was with the Kof C in 1996 and when he got out, K of C kept after him for over a year.  No matter how we answered them, they would not stop hounding.  K of C is in my opinion a branch of masonics.  

    I would like to know IF any pope blessed the K of C.  I did some research and could not find any pope that came right out and did this.  And there was someone, clergy who said, if you keep secrets, then it is not right to be apart of the group.  I agree.
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    So many Catholics are Freemasons?
    « Reply #21 on: November 03, 2015, 11:12:13 PM »
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    Why are so many Catholics , Masons?

    They are probably poorly catechized.


    Can't agree with you there. Most post-Vatican II catechetical material doesn't mention the Mason's at all, this includes JPII's new Code of Canon Law (1983).

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    So many Catholics are Freemasons?
    « Reply #22 on: November 05, 2015, 09:06:19 AM »
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    • I don't know of a single Catholic (on a personal level), traditional or NO, who is a Freemason.  I know a few Protestants who are, and they all tend to be old men.
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    So many Catholics are Freemasons?
    « Reply #23 on: November 05, 2015, 03:45:37 PM »
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    But wasn't +ABL  ordained by a self proclaimed Mason?
    What does that mean to the society?

    Yes, Archbishop Lefebvre's Bishop Lienart who ordained and consecrated him confessed on his deathbed that he was a freemason. Some claim that because of this all of the SSPX priests are not truly priests.


    +ABL was consecrated bishop by another bishop because of the problem of Leinart being a mason.
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    So many Catholics are Freemasons?
    « Reply #24 on: November 05, 2015, 03:56:23 PM »
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    But wasn't +ABL  ordained by a self proclaimed Mason?
    What does that mean to the society?

    Yes, Archbishop Lefebvre's Bishop Lienart who ordained and consecrated him confessed on his deathbed that he was a freemason. Some claim that because of this all of the SSPX priests are not truly priests.


    +ABL was consecrated bishop by another bishop because of the problem of Leinart being a mason.


    And even then, would a bishop being a Freemason invalidate his episcopacy? It feels vaguely Donatist.
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