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Traditional Catholic Faith => Anσnymσus Posts Allowed => Topic started by: Änσnymσus on May 24, 2015, 01:46:16 PM
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About 95 percent or more of Catholics in our area are Masons.
And these are highly educated Catholics and are active in their communities.
Most are police officers, detectives, prosecutors, firemen etc.
Do they really believe that it is all about charity work?
I feel like writing a letter and taping it to Masonic lodge.
If we hold Rosary Rallies outside of abortion clinics, can we have rosary rally outside Masonic lodges. And there are so many Catholics in Mooselodge and Elks too.
I have confronted a couple of them. Seeing Catholics wear that Masonic ring makes me sick.
Do I lack charity if I tell them if they are Masons, don't step foot on my property?
I tell them to join Knights of Columbus, Holy Name Society.
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I think they are poorly educated on the matters of Faith. They may also think that Masonry is edifying (especially if the New Mass is invalid, in that case they wanted a good alternative to the barren NO "Mass").
KoC, Holy Name Society... the former is under NO administration. I suggest spreading devotions with the truth about Masonry.
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About 95 percent or more of Catholics in our area are Masons.
And these are highly educated Catholics and are active in their communities.
Most are police officers, detectives, prosecutors, firemen etc.
Could it be workplace pressure? Not what you know but who you know?
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I think they are poorly educated on the matters of Faith. They may also think that Masonry is edifying (especially if the New Mass is invalid, in that case they wanted a good alternative to the barren NO "Mass").
KoC, Holy Name Society... the former is under NO administration. I suggest spreading devotions with the truth about Masonry.
I need to get hold of a good pamphlet to distribute.
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About 95 percent or more of Catholics in our area are Masons.
And these are highly educated Catholics and are active in their communities.
Most are police officers, detectives, prosecutors, firemen etc.
Could it be workplace pressure? Not what you know but who you know?
It is a possibility.
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Actually, a Catholic who joins the Masons is automatically excommunicated...so there are no Catholics in the Masons because the moment they joined the Masons they ceased being members of the Catholic Church (assuming, of course, they actually had the Catholic Faith to begin with, which, given their actions, is doubtful).
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Holy Mother Church has many writings on Masonry,communism. Cardinal Manning, Cardinal Mindstzey and Popes from Pope the XII and before. It is all there to read.
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A highly regarded authority on the topic, Fr. Cahill's book "Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and the Anti-Christian Movement" is a good reference.
TKGS is absolutely correct; A Commentary on Canon Law states "Those who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort, which plot against the Church or legitimate civil authority, incur ipso facto an excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See (c. 2335)."
http://traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Pope/Leo_XIII/On_Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ,_April_20,_1884.html
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The goals of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is and always unchanged to eradicate
Catholicism from the face of the map.
Yes I am surprised that many Catholics are members, just go to
their funerals and see how many dressed in black suits and white
aprons that have the front pews.
This is especially true to business owners, managers and
politicians.
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Actually, a Catholic who joins the Masons is automatically excommunicated...so there are no Catholics in the Masons because the moment they joined the Masons they ceased being members of the Catholic Church (assuming, of course, they actually had the Catholic Faith to begin with, which, given their actions, is doubtful).
Bravo! What does this tell us about those in the hierarchy who are masons?
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K of C have steak dinners and golf with their buddies, the Masons. Ever so right it be, that there be excommunication. But of course the New Order through that away!
So, sure, say rosary in front of the masons groups, and know that they are of the secret societies. Then, what solution will you give them, for true sacraments, true confession. Hopefully you have traditional priest, near you.
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A highly regarded authority on the topic, Fr. Cahill's book "Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and the Anti-Christian Movement" is a good reference.
TKGS is absolutely correct; A Commentary on Canon Law states "Those who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort, which plot against the Church or legitimate civil authority, incur ipso facto an excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See (c. 2335)."
http://traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Pope/Leo_XIII/On_Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ,_April_20,_1884.html
Sounds like a good book. I'll check it out.
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oooooo... First edition, hardback, lacking jacket?
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=9328509201&searchurl=kn%3DFɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ+and+the+Anti-Christian+Movement%26sts%3Dt
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For myself, it was these images that really defied explanation...
I well imagine we have all see this famous pose:
(http://traditionalcatholic.net/sede_vacante/image/p6-advisors.jpg)
Giovanni Battista Montini with six non-catholic observers who advised regarding the modern liturgy. From left to right - Dr. George, Dr. Jasper, Dr. Shepherd, Dr. Kunneth, Dr. Smith, Dr. Thurian.
Around the same time this photo was taken:
(http://traditionalcatholic.net/sede_vacante/image/p6-george.jpg)
which features the familiar Masonic handshake:
(http://traditionalcatholic.net/sede_vacante/image/p6-handshake.jpg)
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But wasn't +ABL ordained by a self proclaimed Mason?
What does that mean to the society?
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But wasn't +ABL ordained by a self proclaimed Mason?
What does that mean to the society?
Yes, Archbishop Lefebvre's Bishop Lienart who ordained and consecrated him confessed on his deathbed that he was a freemason. Some claim that because of this all of the SSPX priests are not truly priests.
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Why are so many Catholics , Masons?
They are probably poorly catechized.
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It is not possible for a Catholic to be a Mason.
Those who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort, which plot against the Church or legitimate civil authority, incur ipso facto an excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See (c. 2335).
Any Catholic who joins a Masonic sect ceases to be Catholic.
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It is not possible for a Catholic to be a Mason.
Those who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort, which plot against the Church or legitimate civil authority, incur ipso facto an excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See (c. 2335).
Any Catholic who joins a Masonic sect ceases to be Catholic.
I believe they are only excommunicated if they knew it was wrong to join the Masonic sect, so some could be innocent. I remember a prominent Traditional Catholic was a member of a Masonic sect for business connections reasons. People found out about it and told him it was a sin to be a member and he did a mea culpa and resigned his membership in the sect. I don't think he was truly excommunicated because he didn't know better.
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It is not possible for a Catholic to be a Mason.
Those who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort, which plot against the Church or legitimate civil authority, incur ipso facto an excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See (c. 2335).
Any Catholic who joins a Masonic sect ceases to be Catholic.
I believe they are only excommunicated if they knew it was wrong to join the Masonic sect, so some could be innocent. I remember a prominent Traditional Catholic was a member of a Masonic sect for business connections reasons. People found out about it and told him it was a sin to be a member and he did a mea culpa and resigned his membership in the sect. I don't think he was truly excommunicated because he didn't know better.
This, I assume. There was a fallen police officer just a couple weeks ago here in Central MN and at his funeral, his friend said that he was a member of the local Masonic Lodge. It was televised on local TV. More than likely, it's just as you said, it's for business connections.
I have a feeling this is how the vast majority of Freemasons are, that they don't know any better.
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Maybe men like secret societies. You can get a lot of back wiping done. I know my husband was with the Kof C in 1996 and when he got out, K of C kept after him for over a year. No matter how we answered them, they would not stop hounding. K of C is in my opinion a branch of masonics.
I would like to know IF any pope blessed the K of C. I did some research and could not find any pope that came right out and did this. And there was someone, clergy who said, if you keep secrets, then it is not right to be apart of the group. I agree.
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Why are so many Catholics , Masons?
They are probably poorly catechized.
Can't agree with you there. Most post-Vatican II catechetical material doesn't mention the Mason's at all, this includes JPII's new Code of Canon Law (1983).
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I don't know of a single Catholic (on a personal level), traditional or NO, who is a Freemason. I know a few Protestants who are, and they all tend to be old men.
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But wasn't +ABL ordained by a self proclaimed Mason?
What does that mean to the society?
Yes, Archbishop Lefebvre's Bishop Lienart who ordained and consecrated him confessed on his deathbed that he was a freemason. Some claim that because of this all of the SSPX priests are not truly priests.
+ABL was consecrated bishop by another bishop because of the problem of Leinart being a mason.
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But wasn't +ABL ordained by a self proclaimed Mason?
What does that mean to the society?
Yes, Archbishop Lefebvre's Bishop Lienart who ordained and consecrated him confessed on his deathbed that he was a freemason. Some claim that because of this all of the SSPX priests are not truly priests.
+ABL was consecrated bishop by another bishop because of the problem of Leinart being a mason.
And even then, would a bishop being a Freemason invalidate his episcopacy? It feels vaguely Donatist.