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Should traditional Catholics have
« on: May 25, 2025, 04:20:59 AM »
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    • Dyed hair? (Unnatural or natural?)
    Multiple hair colors or color streaks?
    Piercings? (other than earlobes)
    Tattoos?
    Should men have an earring in one ear or both ears or none?
    Should women have nose studs? (Yuck)

    I've seen people with these at my SSPX
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #1 on: May 25, 2025, 07:18:05 AM »
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    • Of course they should.  
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #2 on: May 25, 2025, 07:51:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 25, 2025, 04:20:59 AM
    Dyed hair? (Unnatural or natural?)
    Multiple hair colors or color streaks?
    Piercings? (other than earlobes)
    Tattoos?
    Should men have an earring in one ear or both ears or none?
    Should women have nose studs? (Yuck)

    I've seen people with these at my SSPX
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #3 on: May 25, 2025, 08:10:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 25, 2025, 07:18:05 AM
    Of course they should. 
    Is this satire? :fryingpan:
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #4 on: May 25, 2025, 08:46:22 AM »
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    • I’ve seen a man with tattoos but I assume he’s a convert. He looks to be covering it but you can still see some on his wrists. As for dyed hair, I actually have seen a woman or two having unnaturally died hair and one was a mom and the other single woman. And they were definitely not converts. 
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #5 on: May 25, 2025, 10:19:53 AM »
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    • I have seen it before.  I have seen women in pants too.  It’s not hurting me.   Do you go to our chapel?   

    God is pleased that they are going to Mass. 







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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #6 on: May 25, 2025, 10:21:32 AM »
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    • I have seen mothers with little tattoos on their ankles. It might have been something through they did when they were younger.  
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #7 on: May 25, 2025, 10:41:38 AM »
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    Dyed hair? (Unnatural or natural?)
    Multiple hair colors or color streaks?
    Piercings? (other than earlobes)
    Tattoos?
    Should men have an earring in one ear or both ears or none?
    Should women have nose studs? (Yuck)


    Hair at least can grow back; it's not a permanent mutilation.
    The others qualify as paganism and/or mutilation. Go look around the world at how pagans mutilate and desecrate their bodies with cuttings, piercings, and tattoos.
    It is not a Christian tradition to do this.
    In fact, the Christian attitude towards the body is that the body is a temple of the Holy Ghost. You don't spray paint graffiti or vandalize a temple do you?

    Was I was a teenager I was tempted to dye my hair because I was into Anime and depending on the style, many series had characters with very colorful hair (purple, blue, green, etc.) I never did so, probably because I was going to Mass and wondered how people would react.
    I did grow my hair "long" though. All the way to chin length (no bangs). Many around me said I looked horrible; I looked like my mom.
    But again -- you can get a haircut. Hair grows back. What you DON'T want to do when you're a foolish teenager is permanent stuff that mutilates you.

    Another point -- dying one's hair in 1995 meant you were into Anime and/or a bit weird.
    Dying one's hair in 2025 means you are Leftist, non-binary, Woke, etc.

    I would tell my kids to not even consider dying their hair, because you'd be scandalizing people that "this is one more person who thinks Woke is a good idea, conservatism/believing in God's order is bad, etc." 

    Just like you don't want to put a rainbow flag on your car because you like how pretty the colors are. You just can't do that. It would be some kind of sin of scandal.
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #8 on: May 25, 2025, 11:21:04 AM »
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    • No, they should not, but some people are converting.

    Tattoos are tricky, because they are expensive to remove, hurt a lot, and leave an ugly scar, as I've heard.

    If people are sincere, with time, they will stop using these things you mentioned, maybe except for the tattoos. 

    If the priests say from the pulpit that people with green hair and tattoos are not welcome, they might be preventing someone to become a sincere Catholic.
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #9 on: May 25, 2025, 11:31:27 AM »
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    • Hair dyed in natural colors seems alright to me. Blue, green, purple, etc. are probably indications of pride, vanity

    There is a family in Jerusalem that has apparently been doing Christian tattoos since the 14th century. Crusaders and pilgrims would get them (small, nothing crazy) when in the Holy Land, so I would think there is some argument for tattoos under certain circuмstances. I have also read that Eastern Christians would get a Cross tattoo on their wrists when under Islamic persecution so that they would not be able to deny being Christian, therefore less likely to apostasize, and it would also allow entrance into churches to weed out non-Christians
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #10 on: May 25, 2025, 11:59:00 AM »
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    • Dude, I'm just happy they're going to Mass, period. That's the long and short of it. 

    And don't dye your hair unnatural colors. The bleach and the hair dye from the upkeep will ruin your scalp.
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #11 on: May 25, 2025, 12:43:05 PM »
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    • Poor Sanguines!  I think they would be the type to do outlandish things, like dye their hair different colors.
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #12 on: May 25, 2025, 02:00:56 PM »
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    • If someone was foolish in youth or pre-conversion, these days, it’s quite understandable. We should refrain from condemning the person until we get to know them. In general, Catholics should refrain from extreme and bizarre appearances out of a desire for humility. Those who do these things, at the time, demonstrate their wanting to stand out and make a statement of some sort, be it, “I’m a tough guy,” or “I’m proud to announce I’m LGBTQ.”  
    Most often, it actually reflects insecurity. “I WANT to be seen as a tough guy.” “I’m upset and confused about my sɛҳuąƖity. ACCEPT, no, CELEBRATE my chosen identity.”  
    In a few instances, these things are cultural, not any type of desire to stand out.

    As Matthew says, hair can grow back, be cut, or restyled. Hair dye depending upon the type, can be washed out, wear off, out grown, or colored over in a more natural tone. Piercings usually close up. Tattoos can be covered with clothing. If not reasonable, can sometimes be removed or even re-tattooed to fade or blend more with natural skin tone. One can sometimes use makeup to cover them. 

    Many of these things would fall, imo, into the category of making reasonable adjustments out of respect for God, others, self. Unless the person is someone over whom we have considerable influence, it is best to MYOB. 

    In very extreme cases, like someone with a split tongue and tattoo of Satan on his face, or a person whose body art is immodest, blasphemous, the priest should handle the matter. 
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #13 on: May 25, 2025, 03:39:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on May 25, 2025, 02:00:56 PM
    If someone was foolish in youth or pre-conversion, these days, it’s quite understandable. We should refrain from condemning the person until we get to know them. In general, Catholics should refrain from extreme and bizarre appearances out of a desire for humility. Those who do these things, at the time, demonstrate their wanting to stand out and make a statement of some sort, be it, “I’m a tough guy,” or “I’m proud to announce I’m LGBTQ.” 
    Most often, it actually reflects insecurity. “I WANT to be seen as a tough guy.” “I’m upset and confused about my sɛҳuąƖity. ACCEPT, no, CELEBRATE my chosen identity.” 
    In a few instances, these things are cultural, not any type of desire to stand out.

    As Matthew says, hair can grow back, be cut, or restyled. Hair dye depending upon the type, can be washed out, wear off, out grown, or colored over in a more natural tone. Piercings usually close up. Tattoos can be covered with clothing. If not reasonable, can sometimes be removed or even re-tattooed to fade or blend more with natural skin tone. One can sometimes use makeup to cover them.

    Many of these things would fall, imo, into the category of making reasonable adjustments out of respect for God, others, self. Unless the person is someone over whom we have considerable influence, it is best to MYOB.

    In very extreme cases, like someone with a split tongue and tattoo of Satan on his face, or a person whose body art is immodest, blasphemous, the priest should handle the matter.
    Well said!
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    Re: Should traditional Catholics have
    « Reply #14 on: May 25, 2025, 04:10:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 25, 2025, 04:20:59 AM
    Dyed hair? (Unnatural or natural?)
    Multiple hair colors or color streaks?
    Piercings? (other than earlobes)
    Tattoos?
    Should men have an earring in one ear or both ears or none?
    Should women have nose studs? (Yuck)

    I've seen people with these at my SSPX
    Dyed Hair: only for women and only natural hair colors; men when they go gray should stay gray and when men go bald they should stay bald...no dying hair or wigs for men. For any man to do either is a sign of a lack of masculinity and or humility when it comes to aging gracefully.

    Piercings (other than earlobes) - not for women and men shouldn't have any at all.

    Tattoos - only for certain men who have been in the military (e.g. a navy man or a marine who wants a tattoo related to his service) or a biker-type of guy or mere laborer. For any other man to have tattoos is unnecessary and projects a "trashy image." Ask yourself: would you trust any man to do a very important white-collar job for you (e.g. prepare your taxes or manage your investments) if he had any visible tattoos? Of course not. You would be a fool to do so. Would you trust them to do activities such as bag your groceries, wash your car, put a new roof on your house etc. If he haf any visible tattoos? Of course. Good luck trying to find anyone today to do those things for you who doesn't have at least one visible tattoo.

    Tattoos on women? Never. They never belonged on women in the first place and for any woman to have any tattoo (e.g. even a small one on their ankle etc. which she thinks is "cute") is akin to putting a bunch of bumper stickers on a Ferrari or keying a prized automobile. In other words, it's completely trashy no matter what and it totally degrades the woman who has them.

    No self-respecting man should ever even date (let alone marry) any woman with any tattoos.
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