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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2015, 11:35:50 AM »
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    I wrote to you some time ago, Sbyvl, when I suspected that Jeff was the person trolling SD, to suggest that you investigate him.  You refused to do it.  Instead you accused SD members - on your blog and on your forum - of writing those posts in order to make your forum look bad.  You called it a "fαℓѕє fℓαg operation".

    At this point it is pretty obvious that I was right about it being Jeff.  You have not retracted your false accusations against me and other SD members, apologized, or in any way acknowledged that you wronged us.  I was trying to help you and you published my  private emails to you, twisting everything I said and attacking me.

    When I saw the OP of this thread, I was preparing to write in your defense because I was sure that you were innocent of charges of heresy.  However, when I saw your posts complaining about calumnies against you, I was struck by the irony.  


    Jeff being a liar does not somehow mitigate the fact that you and Kaesekopf are liars as well.

    Several months ago, when I was conducting the investigation of the Zostrianos affair, I initially asked Kasekopf for assistance.  His conduct during the investigation, and my reasons for ceasing communication with him, are public knowledge now.  My position is the same now as it was before.  Kaesekopf lied when he told me he would remove the calumnies posted about me in September.  I told him quite clearly that I had no reason to believe he would follow through with his promises about the Zostrianos investigation until he followed through on the last round of promises.  When I did not hear back, I posted the information publicly, to prevent myself from being smeared again.  

    Moreover, neither you nor Kaesekopf have attempted to dissuade me, either by word or action, of the possibility of a fαℓѕє fℓαg, and I am far from being alone in believing the Zostrianos posts were, for lack of a better term, "inside jobs".  Further, Kaesekopf has certainly. Not "retracted, apologized, or acknowledged" that he wronged me, when there is boatloads of evidence that he did.  All we have to suggest I wronged you is your conjecture.

    For those who think this was paranoid, please read my blog post "The various scandals at Suscipe Domine" on my blog.  Sbyvl.wordpress.com
    I apologize for all rude, calumnious, uncharitable, and unchristian posts I have made, and I retract them.

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    « Reply #31 on: May 02, 2015, 11:37:39 AM »
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    I am a member of this forum in good standing.  I check it around once a day unless I am following a particular thread.  I post occasionally, on a variety of topics.

    What slander do you think that I have made?

    (This is Jayne writing.  I forgot to check the "not anonymous" box.)


    I'll help you out, Jayne.  Falsely accusing another of calumny can in itself be considered a calumny.

    (I wrote this.

    -Sbyvl)
    I apologize for all rude, calumnious, uncharitable, and unchristian posts I have made, and I retract them.


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    « Reply #32 on: May 02, 2015, 11:37:54 AM »
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  • no don't try to use logic and reason, the jews are masters of evading those goy tactics

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    « Reply #33 on: May 02, 2015, 11:39:34 AM »
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    Let's get this straight - Sbyvl is the one who has conducted a smear campaign against me, using his forum and his blog.  

    I did not write the OP of this thread or any of posts other than the ones which have my name on it.


    Yep, it's not as if I have been regularly attacked on Suscipe Domine's in the last eight months, or anything.

    (I wrote this, by the way.

    -Sbyvl)

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    « Reply #34 on: May 02, 2015, 11:40:38 AM »
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  • I wrote the previous anonymous post, but forgot to hit the "Do not post this anonymously" button.
    I apologize for all rude, calumnious, uncharitable, and unchristian posts I have made, and I retract them.


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    « Reply #35 on: May 02, 2015, 11:52:41 AM »
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    Jeff being a liar does not mitigate the fact that you and Kaesekopf are liars as well.

    Several months ago, when I was conducting the investigation of the Zostrianos affair, I initially asked Kasekopf for assistance.  His conduct during the investigation, and my reasons for ceasing communication with him, are public knowledge now.  My position is the same now as it was before.  Kaesekopf lied when he told me he would remove the calumnies posted about me in September.  I told him quite clearly that I had no reason to believe he would follow through with his promises about the Zostrianos investigation until he followed through on the last round of promises.  When I did not hear back, I posted the information publicly, to prevent myself from being smeared again.  

    Moreover, neither you nor Kaesekopf have attempted to dissuade me of the possibility of a fαℓѕє fℓαg, and I am far from being alone in believing the Zostrianos posts were, for lack of a better term, "inside jobs".  Further, Kaesekopf has certainly. Not "retracted, apologized, or acknowledged" that he wronged me, when there is boatloads of evidence that he did.  All we have to suggest I wronged you is your conjecture.

    For those who think this was paranoid, please read my blog post "The various scandals at Suscipe Domine" on my blog.  Sbyvl.wordpress.com


    When someone pretending to be Zostrianos posted on SD, I wrote to you suggesting that you cooperate with Kaesekopf to investigate Jeff.  You asked me to contact KK for you.  Of course, he assumed that meant you found me acceptable as a middle man and wrote back with suggestions of next steps in the investigation.

    The next thing I know, you have posted our email exchange on your blog, complaining that KK's suggestion of me as a middle man showed that he was not acting in good faith and accusing us of a "fαℓѕє fℓαg operation".  You claimed that we were trolling our own forum in order to make your forum look bad.  Are you seriously still claiming that when you know that Jeff is a troll and a liar?

    You posted my private information on your forum.  KK was clearly shocked by this and therefore banned you from SD.  He posted his explanation of why he banned you.  There were no lies and no calumnies.  It seems rather silly to describe these petty inter-forum disagreements as "scandals".


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    « Reply #36 on: May 02, 2015, 11:54:16 AM »
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  • Sbyvl, do the right thing. Give this woman thirty pieces of silver, make a donation to the State of Israel, and stay off the Internet. It's serious business, don't you know.  :detective:

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    « Reply #37 on: May 02, 2015, 11:54:45 AM »
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    Let's get this straight - Sbyvl is the one who has conducted a smear campaign against me, using his forum and his blog.  

    I did not write the OP of this thread or any of posts other than the ones which have my name on it.


    Yep, it's not as if I have been regularly attacked on Suscipe Domine's in the last eight months, or anything.

    (I wrote this, by the way.

    -Sbyvl)


    Was I the one attacking you?  


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    « Reply #38 on: May 02, 2015, 11:56:07 AM »
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  • Knock knock.
    Who's there?
    Jew.
    Jew who?
    Jew ain't seen nothin yet.

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    « Reply #39 on: May 02, 2015, 11:57:58 AM »
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  • Bottom line: Jayne good, Sbyvl bad, and you aren't using your thinking cap if you beg to differ.

    Resistance is futile, assimilation is inevitable.  :fryingpan:

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    « Reply #40 on: May 02, 2015, 11:59:50 AM »
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  • I am a Catholic and I attend the TLM almost exclusively.  I renounced the Judaism of my family many years ago.  I believe all that the Catholic Church proposes for belief.  These accusations that I am a crypto-Jew are part of the smear campaign against me conducted on Sbyvl's forum.  It is sad to see it carried over onto this one.


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    « Reply #41 on: May 02, 2015, 12:00:38 PM »
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    Jeff being a liar does not mitigate the fact that you and Kaesekopf are liars as well.

    Several months ago, when I was conducting the investigation of the Zostrianos affair, I initially asked Kasekopf for assistance.  His conduct during the investigation, and my reasons for ceasing communication with him, are public knowledge now.  My position is the same now as it was before.  Kaesekopf lied when he told me he would remove the calumnies posted about me in September.  I told him quite clearly that I had no reason to believe he would follow through with his promises about the Zostrianos investigation until he followed through on the last round of promises.  When I did not hear back, I posted the information publicly, to prevent myself from being smeared again.  

    Moreover, neither you nor Kaesekopf have attempted to dissuade me of the possibility of a fαℓѕє fℓαg, and I am far from being alone in believing the Zostrianos posts were, for lack of a better term, "inside jobs".  Further, Kaesekopf has certainly. Not "retracted, apologized, or acknowledged" that he wronged me, when there is boatloads of evidence that he did.  All we have to suggest I wronged you is your conjecture.

    For those who think this was paranoid, please read my blog post "The various scandals at Suscipe Domine" on my blog.  Sbyvl.wordpress.com


    When someone pretending to be Zostrianos posted on SD, I wrote to you suggesting that you cooperate with Kaesekopf to investigate Jeff.  You asked me to contact KK for you.  Of course, he assumed that meant you found me acceptable as a middle man and wrote back with suggestions of next steps in the investigation.

    The next thing I know, you have posted our email exchange on your blog, complaining that KK's suggestion of me as a middle man showed that he was not acting in good faith and accusing us of a "fαℓѕє fℓαg operation".  You claimed that we were trolling our own forum in order to make your forum look bad.  Are you seriously still claiming that when you know that Jeff is a troll and a liar?

    You posted my private information on your forum.  KK was clearly shocked by this and therefore banned you from SD.  He posted his explanation of why he banned you.  There were no lies and no calumnies.  It seems rather silly to describe these petty inter-forum disagreements as "scandals".



    Wow, so much for "I am going to stop causing trouble".

    Your entire chronology of events with regards to the Zostrianos affair is completely incorrect, and anybody who is interested can read the post on my blog.

    The same goes for posting your "personal information".  You have yourself admitted on Laramie Hirsch's blog that this is not what happened.

    So once again, Jayne, you have proven yourself to be deceitful.  Every time you cause trouble, you issue a phony apology, and then continue doing precisely the same thing a few months down the line.

    I apologize for all rude, calumnious, uncharitable, and unchristian posts I have made, and I retract them.

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    « Reply #42 on: May 02, 2015, 12:03:40 PM »
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    I am a Catholic and I attend the TLM almost exclusively.  I renounced the Judaism of my family many years ago.  I believe all that the Catholic Church proposes for belief.  These accusations that I am a crypto-Jew are part of the smear campaign against me conducted on Sbyvl's forum.  It is sad to see it carried over onto this one.


    Straight from the Jew's mouth. Or fingers? So it must be true.

    Yes, there can't be any truth to the Jew stuff it one whit.

    Nothing to see, move along.

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    « Reply #43 on: May 02, 2015, 12:08:29 PM »
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    You seem to have a perpetual victim complex.


    A jew with a perpetual victim complex?

    Isn't that just a jew?

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    « Reply #44 on: May 02, 2015, 12:10:29 PM »
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    Wow, so much for "I am going to stop causing trouble".

    Your entire chronology of events with regards to the Zostrianos affair is completely incorrect, and anybody who is interested can read the post on my blog.

    The same goes for posting your "personal information".  You have yourself admitted on Laramie Hirsch's blog that this is not what happened.

    So once again, Jayne, you have proven yourself to be deceitful.  Every time you cause trouble, you issue a phony apology, and then continue doing precisely the same thing a few months down the line.


    I did not expect it to cause trouble to point out that the exposure of Jeff as a troll and a liar clears me of the false charges you made against me.  It is pretty clear now that he was the one trolling SD.  It was not me pretending to be him in order to make your forum look bad.  It has been established that he is an unstable person who does stuff like that.

    You posted my personal information on your forum.  That is an indisputable fact. There are screen shots.  I have admitted that you probably did not do it maliciously.  You were very new to running a forum when you did it and probably did not realize how seriously wrong it was.  I forgave you and wish you would forgive me and move on.