What does the Original Poster hope to gain from this information?

The physical (biological) peak in a woman's fertility does not necessarily coincide with her psychological readiness for marriage. Unless one sees a woman as merely a physical being, and not as a human being that is a composite of a physical body and an immaterial and immortal soul, that consideration is at least as important as noting physical readiness for procreation. The same can be said for men; many, probably most men, are physically capable of fathering children long before they are psychologically ready for Fatherhood. Is this hard to understand?

Now, of course, our conversation is taking place in modern Western civilization. If you want to say that men and women should have psychological maturity more commensurate with their biological maturity, I don't disagree. But, it seems to me, that that requires substantially changing the culture. Moreso, it requires changing individuals. That is the fundamental question and problem; are we really willing to change ourselves or should we just continue, like impotent jerks, to blame everyone else for the problem?

Ideally a women should get married in her prime (17-22). Not only is it prudent for the women it was always done throughout history in every civilisation except for the past 500 so years in protestant areas.

This isn't rage bait, it is simply facts. Even Aristotle said the ideal marriage age was ~18 for the ladies, even girls in his time getting married around 15.

Also the age of marriage in most western countries is 14-16 depending on where you live, with the parents consent. So unless you live in worst Korea (south) it's not illegal.

Lifespan wasn't shorter in the past, it's just that infant death was higher so the average is lower, but you were expected to live past 50 if you survived childhood. Even scripture in the psalm says the life of a man is 70-80 years.

So no it's not just the aristocracy, but even commoners got married young (females) because people weren't brainwashed by Jєωιѕн propaganda on women. They understood fallen female nature even if they didn't have Christ. As well as the importance of the male being older and ready to provide.

I'm really amazed with how so many 'trads' live in modern world just assuming all these propaganda points are true when all the historic and biological evidence says otherwise. It's honestly unreal. Must be a side effect of boomer delusion.

I was just curious for the perspective. I'm not even ready for marriage yet.
Catholic Match is trash. The age range you can set is tiny, it's ridiculous.

Cath Match might be better here in uk. I know three successful marriages that came from CM meetings. Also one disastrous marriage… but they were too young (25 and 19) so not surprised. Fortunately I met my husband in real life at work. Looking in church tea rooms is pretty useless. Catholic events such as dances and other social events can be helpful. The more friends you make the more likely you are to meet someone through your network. Also you may meet a non Catholic who will convert. Like a friend of mine converted from Protestant before she married her husband who is Catholic.

There is indeed a mental health crises with women. But the by the time it takes them to recover it is really too late.


Lets say an extra 30 percent of women are not going to be ready for marriage on time.

We can still do well in  the "numbers game" if the families that do form pray hard for large families.


In other words, we can afford to "leave some women behind", if you will.


Whats consoling to see is men and women waking up on the age gap question. It encourages men who have "given up" , only in their thirties (which is crazy when you think about it) to seek younger girls. And younger girls to seek older men, who are in a much better position to support them financially as well as spiritually. There is a maturity crises among men too, but it doesnt matter as much.

"Doesn't matter as much" ?? I'm sorry, but that's just beyond an acceptable level of ignorance, it matters a great deal. These are real people and real lives that we're talking about.

Dancing is immodest and vain though.