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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
« Reply #330 on: October 30, 2017, 03:51:33 PM »
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  • My husband values my mind and opinions so much that he paid for me to take part-time university courses throughout our marriage.  He thinks of me as a highly intelligent and articulate person and that is one of the things he finds attractive about me.  

    I wasn't talking to you, so be quiet.  My only reference to you was the implication that your husband might be telling you how to think on this subject ... and you did not object to that.  Other comment to which you responded was not addressed to you, so stay out of it.

    Offline DZ PLEASE

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #331 on: October 30, 2017, 03:52:59 PM »
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  • Anybody else think it's at least a bit ironic that the females not being 'given the business', but instead get the "Sir Galahad", are the ones who agree with Ladi?



    Offline DZ PLEASE

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #332 on: October 30, 2017, 03:53:37 PM »
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  • I wasn't talking to you, so be quiet.  My only reference to you was the implication that your husband might be telling you how to think on this subject ... and you did not object to that.  Other comment to which you responded was not addressed to you, so stay out of it.
    ... as if on cue...

    Maybe a good pop on the gob would sort her right out...

    Offline Jaynek

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #333 on: October 30, 2017, 03:55:54 PM »
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  • That "historical practice" argument is garbage.  You'll find just as many husbands, and I would argue more, who would never dare lay a hand on their wives because of the Christian charity they have for them and the honor they hold them in.  Just because you can find wife beaters everywhere in history, that doesn't prove anything.  You'll also find murderers and thieves throughout all of history.  You can find SOME writers who hold this opinion regarding wife-beating.  Others are against it.  So there's no probative value in this "historical practice" whatsoever, Ms. Logic 101.
    People in this thread have cited sources which hold corporal punishment to be permissible.  Nobody on the other side has cited sources which support their position.  So far, all we have seen is your assertion that there were people against it.

    You have made a specious argument against corporal punishment and seem to expect your readers to count it as having equal weight to the writing of St. Thomas Aquinas.  You have not made a compelling argument for your position at all.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #334 on: October 30, 2017, 04:00:21 PM »
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  • False.  Novus Ordo seminaries had the same crap logic classes that colleges did.
    I do not think that you can make a fair judgment of the course with the amount of information that you have about it.  Rest assured that I do know what a syllogism is and all the other basic terminology and concepts.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #335 on: October 30, 2017, 04:02:40 PM »
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  • If J's husband is like mine, he is standing right besides her telling her exactly what to type. In other words, she is merely his secretary.
    Apparently I need to go on record as objecting to this or people will assume that it is true.  Consider yourselves told.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #336 on: October 30, 2017, 04:07:38 PM »
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    One distinction between the honour given to parents and that given to a wife, is that honouring parents is one of the 10 Commandments.  Another distinction is that a wife is subject to her husband, but parents are not subject to their children.  
    Everyone can observe that I posted this earlier in the thread.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #337 on: October 30, 2017, 04:10:59 PM »
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  • People in this thread have cited sources which hold corporal punishment to be permissible.  Nobody on the other side has cited sources which support their position.  So far, all we have seen is your assertion that there were people against it.


    What authoritative Church teaching has been specifically cited, where it is clearly shown that a man may strike his wife?


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #338 on: October 30, 2017, 04:17:25 PM »
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  • What authoritative Church teaching has been specifically cited, where it is clearly shown that a man may strike his wife?
    There was a quote from St. Thomas and another from a moral theology manual.  While neither of these is infallible, they are a good indication of what Catholics thought and did in the past.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #339 on: October 30, 2017, 04:20:01 PM »
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  • There was a quote from St. Thomas and another from a moral theology manual.  While neither of these is infallible, they are a good indication of what Catholics thought and did in the past.
    That doesn't make it Church teaching. 

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #340 on: October 30, 2017, 04:25:23 PM »
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  • That doesn't make it Church teaching.
    Your point has been made and addressed earlier in the thread.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #341 on: October 30, 2017, 04:29:13 PM »
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  • Your point has been made and addressed earlier in the thread.

    So what. I'll keep repeating it, as long as you keep repeating your nonsense. 

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #342 on: October 30, 2017, 05:59:34 PM »
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  • I will respond to you further, on one condition; show your digital "face" and identify yourself. Otherwise, enjoy typing at air.
    Sorry, I failed to click the box- this one and the first concerning "hate and fear" are mine, the other anonymous posts are not.
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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #343 on: October 30, 2017, 06:53:44 PM »
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  • You're an idiot.
    It's no wonder your wife left you.
    Is there a bee on me?

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #344 on: October 30, 2017, 08:51:13 PM »
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  • The post made to Facebook today by the "Resistance" in favor of beating your wife is disgraceful.
    More a "cane" person?








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